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June 12, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
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Can you modify this thread's content more beautiful and technological?

1. Font color and size
2. Friendly pics and logos
3. Clearly layout

Thanks very very much!


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June 12, 2014, 09:53:17 AM
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Dev is very busy during this period, GUI is the primary task.

mike can do this job~~~

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June 12, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
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$BBR i've been buying tons of coins ...i think we are still undervalued!!!  Cool Great Volume!!!

https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr


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June 12, 2014, 11:46:27 AM
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Someone mine with supercomputer  Huh
Someone mines with GPUs and someone else mines with Amazon ec2.  Smiley

How can you tell if the increase in the hashrate is because of ec2 or GPU mining?

Price is one hint.  The EC2 spot market costs about $0.27 per hour for a big compute machine, plus some data transfer charges, etc., etc.  Let's call it $0.30 total.  That machine gets about 1.2mhash/s.  (Probably 1.3, but I'm conservative).

An EC2 miner will launch when:

Code:
hash/s       one day          reward                           cost/day
(1200000 * 86400 / diff) * 17 * price * BTC/USD > (24*0.3)     (this is about $7.50/day)

Last night, diff was 90B, price was 0.001:
Code:
1200000*86400/90000000000 * 17 * .001 * 630
12.33792000000000000000

It was EC2.  A cloud miner was making $12 for every $7.50 s/he spent.

This morning, price is down to .0008 and diff is back up to 115:
Code:
1200000*86400/114000000000 * 17 * .0008 * 630
7.79237052631578947070

(which is just about at the breakeven point).  That means we'll start to see the instances be killed and the diff drop off slowly.

I bet if you do the analysis, you'll observe that the difficulty of mining BBR over the last few weeks has almost exactly matched the cost to mine it at 1.3mh/s on AWS at $0.27/hour.  This is the most easily available, scalable source of CPU for miners.

The bright side is that this means the coin is still extremely profitable for home miners once we can get the pools running as efficiently as solo. It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.  Before the cryptonote coins came around, it was getting less than $0.50 per day mining Riecoin.

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June 12, 2014, 12:23:48 PM
Last edit: June 12, 2014, 12:38:33 PM by cbuchner1
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Code:
hash/s       one day          reward                           cost/day
(1200000 * 86400 / diff) * 17 * price * BTC/USD > (24*0.3)     (this is about $7.50/day)

It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.

this, Ladies and Gentlemen is why Prof. Andersen teaches at CMU.  Excellent explanations, Sir!

I have another observation to make.

The difficulty and hash rate has been steadily rising without the "incoming connections" number increasing likewise.

This most likely means that more people have started to pool mine, using e.g. simpleminer. These people do not appear as nodes in the Boolberry network, but rather contribute their hash rate to existing pool nodes.

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June 12, 2014, 12:25:54 PM
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why did you chose this name ?

It seems not a really good name for a currency to me. I'm thinking of buying but that name just keep me away for now.

I'll buy some if you make me a good offer through pm's Cheesy

anyway good luck !
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June 12, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
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The bright side is that this means the coin is still extremely profitable for home miners once we can get the pools running as efficiently as solo. It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.  Before the cryptonote coins came around, it was getting less than $0.50 per day mining Riecoin.

For me with 4-5 i7s...
Ducks and Mount appear to be more profitable than BBR...
And the payout is consistent (for random payouts I wouldn't bother).

There will be a flood of CNotes... then a thinning of the herd.

BBR logo should be a big strawberry with a bite out of it...
Maybe we get lucky and Apple Inc tries to sue... seriously.
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June 12, 2014, 02:38:11 PM
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why did you chose this name ?
It seems not a really good name for a currency to me. I'm thinking of buying but that name just keep me away for now.
I'll buy some if you make me a good offer through pm's Cheesy
anyway good luck !

The name is the main reason I am buying blindly on Poloniex.
When I'm buying Boolberry I feel like it's more than just a crypto.
It feels like I can almost touch and feel the Boolberries.
Hmmm... tasty... I put them all over my naked body.
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June 12, 2014, 02:54:52 PM
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The bright side is that this means the coin is still extremely profitable for home miners once we can get the pools running as efficiently as solo. It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.  Before the cryptonote coins came around, it was getting less than $0.50 per day mining Riecoin.

For me with 4-5 i7s...
Ducks and Mount appear to be more profitable than BBR...
And the payout is consistent (for random payouts I wouldn't bother).

There will be a flood of CNotes... then a thinning of the herd.

BBR logo should be a big strawberry with a bite out of it...
Maybe we get lucky and Apple Inc tries to sue... seriously.

And what can you do with MNT?  Grin

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June 12, 2014, 02:59:24 PM
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The bright side is that this means the coin is still extremely profitable for home miners once we can get the pools running as efficiently as solo. It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.  Before the cryptonote coins came around, it was getting less than $0.50 per day mining Riecoin.
For me with 4-5 i7s...
Ducks and Mount appear to be more profitable than BBR...
And the payout is consistent (for random payouts I wouldn't bother).
There will be a flood of CNotes... then a thinning of the herd.
BBR logo should be a big strawberry with a bite out of it...
Maybe we get lucky and Apple Inc tries to sue... seriously.

I own a duckNote pool BTW along with a Monero pool (with a friend):

http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/
http://duck.crypto-pool.fr/


Lowest orphan rate, optimized code.
Soon DDOS protection as we got attacked yesterday.
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June 12, 2014, 03:05:28 PM
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Someone mine with supercomputer  Huh
Someone mines with GPUs and someone else mines with Amazon ec2.  Smiley

How can you tell if the increase in the hashrate is because of ec2 or GPU mining?

Price is one hint.  The EC2 spot market costs about $0.27 per hour for a big compute machine, plus some data transfer charges, etc., etc.  Let's call it $0.30 total.  That machine gets about 1.2mhash/s.  (Probably 1.3, but I'm conservative).

An EC2 miner will launch when:

Code:
hash/s       one day          reward                           cost/day
(1200000 * 86400 / diff) * 17 * price * BTC/USD > (24*0.3)     (this is about $7.50/day)

Last night, diff was 90B, price was 0.001:
Code:
1200000*86400/90000000000 * 17 * .001 * 630
12.33792000000000000000

It was EC2.  A cloud miner was making $12 for every $7.50 s/he spent.

This morning, price is down to .0008 and diff is back up to 115:
Code:
1200000*86400/114000000000 * 17 * .0008 * 630
7.79237052631578947070

(which is just about at the breakeven point).  That means we'll start to see the instances be killed and the diff drop off slowly.

I bet if you do the analysis, you'll observe that the difficulty of mining BBR over the last few weeks has almost exactly matched the cost to mine it at 1.3mh/s on AWS at $0.27/hour.  This is the most easily available, scalable source of CPU for miners.

The bright side is that this means the coin is still extremely profitable for home miners once we can get the pools running as efficiently as solo. It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.  Before the cryptonote coins came around, it was getting less than $0.50 per day mining Riecoin.

Thanks for the very detailed answer!

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June 12, 2014, 03:23:12 PM
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I've set up my own local pool to test on and the fix seems OK, as you noted.  I've submitted a pull request for it.

I also changed some of the settings in the pool config for vardiff to make it adapt faster - maybe a bit too aggressive because I have a fast CPU, but probably similar to what you did:

        "varDiff": {
            "minDiff": 500000,
            "maxDiff": 10000000,
            "targetTime": 100,
            "retargetTime": 15,
            "variancePercent": 50,
            "maxJump": 200000
        },

With these changes on a *local* and unloaded pool I was getting 320kh/s.  It's probably less on a remote pool, of course, but getting better.  That's much closer to what solo would get.

Next up, I'll try to improve the hash rate of the miner a little.  I don't manage the multiple threads very efficiently, so it's only getting 630% of CPU on my machine, where it should be getting about 780%.  I can get this improved soon (maybe by tomorrow), I think.

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June 12, 2014, 03:40:18 PM
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The bright side is that this means the coin is still extremely profitable for home miners once we can get the pools running as efficiently as solo. It's very rare for a coin to be so profitable as to be mineable on EC2.  My i7-4770 is getting $2/day of BBR.  Before the cryptonote coins came around, it was getting less than $0.50 per day mining Riecoin.

For me with 4-5 i7s...
Ducks and Mount appear to be more profitable than BBR...
And the payout is consistent (for random payouts I wouldn't bother).

There will be a flood of CNotes... then a thinning of the herd.

BBR logo should be a big strawberry with a bite out of it...
Maybe we get lucky and Apple Inc tries to sue... seriously.

And what can you do with MNT?  Grin

Like superresistant...
I can almost touch and feel them, etc...

Also CNotes are now like 20-30% of Poloniex business...
They should be happy to list every one that comes along.
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June 12, 2014, 03:43:36 PM
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I've set up my own local pool to test on and the fix seems OK, as you noted.  I've submitted a pull request for it.

I also changed some of the settings in the pool config for vardiff to make it adapt faster - maybe a bit too aggressive because I have a fast CPU, but probably similar to what you did:

        "varDiff": {
            "minDiff": 500000,
            "maxDiff": 10000000,
            "targetTime": 100,
            "retargetTime": 15,
            "variancePercent": 50,
            "maxJump": 200000
        },

With these changes on a *local* and unloaded pool I was getting 320kh/s.  It's probably less on a remote pool, of course, but getting better.  That's much closer to what solo would get.

Next up, I'll try to improve the hash rate of the miner a little.  I don't manage the multiple threads very efficiently, so it's only getting 630% of CPU on my machine, where it should be getting about 780%.  I can get this improved soon (maybe by tomorrow), I think.


My pool works with

"varDiff": {
            "minDiff": 50000,
            "maxDiff": 10000000,
            "targetTime": 10,
            "retargetTime": 5,
            "variancePercent": 30,
            "maxJump": 500000
        },


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June 12, 2014, 04:28:07 PM
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Can you modify this thread's content more beautiful and technological?

1. Font color and size
2. Friendly pics and logos
3. Clearly layout

Thanks very very much!


Check other coins for example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606809.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599438.0

I am working on updates to first post. It won't be beautiful (yet).

I am also working to correct mail issue on forum. Almost done.

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June 12, 2014, 05:27:18 PM
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total hashrate of all the pool is less than 5 MH/s while network hash rate is 2GH/s, i wonder where is all the rest ? Wild Keccak algorithm is supposed to be much more effecient for GPU mining, right ?
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June 12, 2014, 05:46:58 PM
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total hashrate of all the pool is less than 5 MH/s while network hash rate is 2GH/s, i wonder where is all the rest ? Wild Keccak algorithm is supposed to be much more effecient for GPU mining, right ?

Solo is still decently more efficient than pool -- probably 25%, depending on where you are located relative to the pool.  Slowly fixing that, but for now, if you have a few machines, you're better off running solo than using one of the pools.  Or run your own pool on the same LAN as your workers -- that part is working very well and achieving nearly as good efficiency as the daemon miner.

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June 12, 2014, 06:52:00 PM
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Forum email is fixed. You can register here -> http://boolberry.com/forum/index.php

If you already registered and did not receive email, send me a pm with the username or email you used. I will resend confirmation.
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June 12, 2014, 07:03:28 PM
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http://79.135.200.108/
Pool on maintenance mode. We return tomorrow(06.13). Sorry

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June 13, 2014, 01:45:05 AM
Last edit: June 13, 2014, 02:15:28 AM by crypto_zoidberg
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Good news!

I've uploaded preview version of GUI with wallet functions (windows build).
This is early alpha version, beware of bugs. It's actually just first version that able to send and receive money, pretty ugly.

Everyone who want to have fun:
boolberry.com/downloads.html


What next:
0. Integrate qt-daemon into build system
1. Build and test it for Mac and Linux
2. Preapare normal deploy binaries
3. Adjust html layout to make it looking nice
4. add address aliases support
5. add multi-recipient feature
6. implement tray-mode
7. Add multiple wallets support (work with few opened wallets)
.....
we have a tons of work ahead.....



GUI branch:
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/tree/GUI
(boost libs path hardcoded, will be fixed tomorow)


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