[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014

[smooth]

Experiment i did is very simple (and honest i guess, without tricks): i've synchronized both daemons bitmonerod(prebuilt bitmonerod i've downloaded from website) and boolbd, and yesterday i've shutdowned them both in one time(the difference was maybe 1-2 minutes).  

Interesting results!

One thing I noticed here:

1818 Blocks
...
750 Blocks

The first is Monero, the second is Boolberry.

Why does Monero have almost 2.5x as many blocks in the same time period (when normally one would expect 2x)? As far as I know they both use the same difficulty targeting algorithm so presumably this is due to variation in the network hash rates and realized block times as opposed to the target. This certainly doesn't invalidate your test results -- they were an accurate measurement for a particuar day -- but it calls into question whether this was a representative time interval. I would guess there will also be time periods when Monero has fewer than the expected number of blocks being verified (do you agree?)

But in any case this significantly increases the number of PoW verifications to be done. You calculated this at 36.36 seconds, but normalizing for the number of blocks to 1500 (I think you would agree this is a reasonable adjustment?) this drops to 30 seconds. Ultimately that is a small difference though, because as I've mentioned on several different threads, the PoW time is a relatively small share of syncing time, and your results seem to confirm this (but see below).

Similarly, normalizing for number of blocks would reduce the amount of time spent "processing blocks" (managing the chain data, coinbase transactions, etc.) but would not affect the processing of (non-coinbase) transactions.

Unfortunately this means (as you said) it is hard to normalize further because we don't really know the breakdown between "processing blocks" and "processing transactions" and even if Monero had closer to the target number of blocks presumably it would have the same number of non-coinbase transactions.

One thing is still interesting to me though. You report 2.5 minutes of sync time for Monero for a 24 hour period, yet people often report many hours to sync the chain for a month or less. There is a big gap there, that we are still working to understand it. This is what I meant by sync time is not being explained by the above factors. Adding approximately 2 minutes per day to sync time (somewhat less if we normalize for block count) does not explain hours and hours of syncing. Hopefully we can report more on this soon.

EDIT: Oh, I just thought of something else. If Monero has more 2.5x more blocks and the same number of tx then the number of tx per block should be 1/2.5x. Yet excluding PoW time we see Monero taking more time to process each block despite having many fewer transactions in each block! This is quite unexpected and points to some other factor, probably the larger transaction history, but possibly some gross inefficiency in the scaling with respect to the size of transaction history. We should look at this more closely. After all, eventually both coins will have many more transactions in their history than they do now!

[pinky]

Serious buying going on tonight  

What do you think BBR's fair value is?

BBR Peak: June 22, 0.0036BTC
BBR intrinsic value at June 22 = X
BBR intrinsic value today = 3X   (GUI, statum pool mining, supernet, etc)
Todays BTC value = 3 * 0.0036 = 0.0108BTC

This is not the fair value, you calculated max price per coin or potential peak of a bubble.

IMO fair value of BBR will be above 0.001 and between XMR price - it's hard to say exactly when this new wave od adoption will stop. Remember there are less coins and slower emission curve. I estimate that market cap should be around 1/3 of XMR because there is far less users and whales in bbr, but this could change fast like we saw when people like James step in and give more credibility to the coin.

[teknohog]

Just noticed that the gpu miner is displaying that the software is out of date, but it isn't, is it?

Ditto. I would really like to continue solo mining.

Is it possible to connect external GPU miners to the official client, as is commonly done in Bitcoin-derived coins?

[drawingthemoon]

I found a single boolberry block ages ago.  Is it too late to assign my alias via that block?

Why the alias? Didn't you just "liquidate" yourself when price rose from 18,000 Satoshis to 30,000 Satoshis and announced it like it should be shared with the whole world just a few days ago?

Not sure exactly whats going on with boolberry but I am happily liquidating my small hedge there today,

This is another problem Boolberry faces. The demographic is currently the convoluted supporter of competing coin who are happily "liquidating" themselves on forum posts, trollboxes and other places for every BBR rise. Whether they actually do or not is debatable, but the fact that they are always giving an air of dumping etc in order to downplay the potential. I guess this card is being over played by the similar set of forum actors and those who have now started to look at the coin seriously, can see through the charades.

[sussex]

Ok, I'm getting an error when I try to make_alias.

It's asking me to "specify wallet address and alias to associate with it".

I've made loads of aliases, I'm entering the command correctly, could it be to do with the update?

EDIT:

Forget this, it's working fine, Bitcointalk had sneaked a space into the address   

I'm still trying to find out if it's possible to change wallet passwords though, does anyone know?

[klee]

I like this coin

[dr_chen]

Where can we use alias

[sussex]

Where can we use alias

You use it in the miner, the command is:

make_alias "alias" "address"

without quotes.

[huang115804]

这个硬币挺好的——希望能上中国的交易平台

[cAPSLOCK]

I found a single boolberry block ages ago.  Is it too late to assign my alias via that block?

Why the alias? Didn't you just "liquidate" yourself when price rose from 18,000 Satoshis to 30,000 Satoshis and announced it like it should be shared with the whole world just a few days ago?

Not sure exactly whats going on with boolberry but I am happily liquidating my small hedge there today,

This is another problem Boolberry faces. The demographic is currently the convoluted supporter of competing coin who are happily "liquidating" themselves on forum posts, trollboxes and other places for every BBR rise. Whether they actually do or not is debatable, but the fact that they are always giving an air of dumping etc in order to downplay the potential. I guess this card is being over played by the similar set of forum actors and those who have now started to look at the coin seriously, can see through the charades.

Meh.  I don't know who pissed in your cornflakes, but I see no reason for you to attack me here.  I have been a BBR miner and holder since June.  Who the hell are you again?  Oh that's right, a troll account made to attack a person who supports a sister coin.

People trade into and out of crpytos thousands of times a day.  Some people even make a living doing it.  I am not that good, but I have learned to sell when things go up, and buy when they go down.  Generally it has served me well.

I have no problem with there being rivalry between XMR and BBR.  In fact I see the competition as healthy for both coins.

Zoidberg kindly answered my question here about the alias.  And sussex even offered to help me get an alias.  That is the kind of thing that makes small communities like XMR, BBR and other coins attractive.  Mature enthusiastic developers and community members are important to a coin.  This is why I maintain the Monero dev donation thread.  It is a way I can contribute to a project I believe in.

You would think if a XMR fan comes and posts here you would welcome him and do your best to show a good community for the coin.  Zoidberg and Sussex certainly did.

Idiotic teenage trolls banging on keyboards will not stop Monero or Boolberry but it is a shame they are around nonetheless.

I am not "another problem Boolberry faces" as I don't matter that much.

As long as we are talking about problems, I will say this:  If your hope is for "Boolberry to overtake Monero".  Which would be better?  Insulting interested users, or welcoming them?

YOU and the likes of you are a current scourge on BBR and XMR. 

Luckily though you matter even less than me.

[cAPSLOCK]

这个硬币挺好的——希望能上中国的交易平台

bter.com 有一个硬币使用相同的技术XMR --- 你可能会问的补充BBR

[eddywise]

这个硬币挺好的——希望能上中国的交易平台

bter.com 有一个硬币使用相同的技术XMR --- 你可能会问的补充BBR

does that mean boolberry will be added to bter?

I think BBR is only the same cryptonote algo with XMR
in fact BBR has some different with BCN or XMR

[cAPSLOCK]

这个硬币挺好的——希望能上中国的交易平台

bter.com 有一个硬币使用相同的技术XMR --- 你可能会问的补充BBR

does that mean boolberry will be added to bter?

it means a Chinese exchange has already done the groundwork for boolberry by having monero.  It should be fairly easy to add.

[huang115804]

希望作者更多的向中国的比特时代网站推广这硬币，比特时代是中国山寨币交易量最多的交易平台！~www.btc38.com   目前中国比特时代还没有使用这相同的技术算法的硬币。这是一个很好的机会.

[BadAss.Sx]

我们等着看吧。现在它是我的真实想法大肆宣传硬币

[tifozi]

Ni Hao!!

[damashup]

Tech help please, having issues with the following transaction

Code:

Tx ID: 46e680895a63a8c9f83ba32dbcd819f310c888051fc6ae9035a80c45744120a4
Date: 2014-08-31 23:41
Amount: 501.000000000000
Status: Unconfirmed

The transaction is currently showing in my wallet as unconfirmed... Been like that for a few days now. From what I can tell the money didn't get sent to exchange (I thought it had but cannot see it in my deposit history on the exchange).

Can someone look into please?

P.S. Is there a working block explorer available?

Thanks in advance!

[btc-mike]

Tech help please, having issues with the following transaction

Code:

Tx ID: 46e680895a63a8c9f83ba32dbcd819f310c888051fc6ae9035a80c45744120a4
Date: 2014-08-31 23:41
Amount: 501.000000000000
Status: Unconfirmed

The transaction is currently showing in my wallet as unconfirmed... Been like that for a few days now. From what I can tell the money didn't get sent to exchange (I thought it had but cannot see it in my deposit history on the exchange).

Can someone look into please?

P.S. Is there a working block explorer available?

Thanks in advance!

Are you using the GUI wallet? It is showing wrong tx id. Zoidberg will release a fix today.

[damashup]

Tech help please, having issues with the following transaction

Code:

Tx ID: 46e680895a63a8c9f83ba32dbcd819f310c888051fc6ae9035a80c45744120a4
Date: 2014-08-31 23:41
Amount: 501.000000000000
Status: Unconfirmed

The transaction is currently showing in my wallet as unconfirmed... Been like that for a few days now. From what I can tell the money didn't get sent to exchange (I thought it had but cannot see it in my deposit history on the exchange).

Can someone look into please?

P.S. Is there a working block explorer available?

Thanks in advance!

Are you using the GUI wallet? It is showing wrong tx id. Zoidberg will release a fix today.

Yes GUI wallet on the mac. Will the fix sort the confirmation? Or is that a separate issue?

[LordBadon]

"Status: Loading blockchain data..."
Connections: 0
Height: 0
Current difficulty: ---
Current network hashrate: ---
Software version: ---
Exchange rate: ---
Always like this.  
I used new wallet

Firewall?

Nah, im getting exactly the same thing.

Old wallet was fine - just updated via the installer and now it wont connect. just says "status loading block chain data..." (even though i was fully upto date on the old version) and the exchange tab also is receiving no data.
I removed qt-boolb.exe from firewall, re-added it in and still nothing.

Windows 8.1 here.

exactly same as you , windows 8.1 and the GUI keep showing "Loading blockchain data"

Glad to know I'm not the only one having the problem.

Windows 8.1, GUI won't progress past "Loading blockchain data".