[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[nioc]

I agree with Hueristic.  I have seen no mention on red it and I also don't frequent IRC.


In other news, it's been a weeks since I have received the error messages in the daemon that many reported here several weeks ago.  Also it seems that the post hardfork naughty nodes are now virtually nonexistent.

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[GingerAle]

Where is it written in stone that all releases have to be an element? If any release should be a exception to a naming scheme then the initial would be the one.

I can't think of a better tribute to a from what I understand was a completely altruistic contributor, btw how many of those do we have?

Is there a list of those that don't receive from dev fund or other funding methods?

Also What was his name? Or has the family chosen not to share it? Adding Dev Obituaries to the chain should be a good practice. So few of us leave a mark on the future when we are gone.

I'm not sure why it's taking me so long to bring this up but I assumed something like this would have been discussed by those that worked with him. Maybe it has been on reddit or IRC? My only news is from here and occasionally getmonero.org and I cannot find anything there.

First bold: I dunno if there's a list, but the core devs are a good place to start. In fact, I think the only people to receive direct funding are those involved in forum funding projects. From my understanding of how things work, the core devs really don't "snag" part of the dev donations - they use those funds to either fund developers or infrastructure (our DNS checkpointing safety net, for instance... of course that might be funded by fluffy, i dunno).

On the second bold I can only comment by not commenting As with all things monero, "soon".

no idea re: his name reveal.

[papa_lazzarou]

Where is it written in stone that all releases have to be an element? 

Here (kind of):
https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical/2352/now-for-some-fun-naming-monero-releases

[Hueristic]

Where is it written in stone that all releases have to be an element?  

Here (kind of):
https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical/2352/now-for-some-fun-naming-monero-releases

Thanks, looks like a pretty informal "fun" thing that was proposed. Now we have a chance to make it a Meaningful memorial. I've added the recommendation to the thread.

Thread OP:

Now for some fun: naming Monero releases

fluffypony posted this 8 months ago

As David has mentioned before, we'll be switching to Semantic Versioning soon, and fully implementing it from v1.0. This means that the next release of Monero will be 0.9, not 0.8.8.9, as it is a major change. We're resisting tagging 1.0 till we have the new RPC API implemented and a subsequent compatibility freeze on the API for the whole of the 1.x range.

Just for fun, though, I'd like us to come up with a naming system for Monero releases. It will only be minor version bumps that get a name, not patch releases.

My two proposals are:

Made out of Elements

This gives us a maximum of 118 releases (which is plenty) before we have to switch to a different naming system. We will follow the order in the Periodic Table (ie. by their atomic number), and an object will be selected by the Core Team (or the community) that is "made" of that element, using alliteration / assonance for maximum awesomeness.

Examples could include stuff like:

Monero 0.9: Hydrogen Haircut
Monero 3.0: Magne­sium Mountain
Monero 24.3: Anti­mony Alarm
Monero 50.0: Unun­septium Umbrella

A Testament to Nobel Winners

This is advantageous as the list grows every year, so we should have names forever. No particular order need apply. Nobel laureates would typically be credited using their initials and surname.

Examples could include stuff like:

Monero 0.9: G Marconi
Monero 3.0: M Curie
Monero 24.3: N Mandela
Monero 50.0: R Zinkernagel

Thoughts? Alternatives? Input? Speak now or forever hold your Palladium Peace.

Where is it written in stone that all releases have to be an element? If any release should be a exception to a naming scheme then the initial would be the one.

I can't think of a better tribute to a from what I understand was a completely altruistic contributor, btw how many of those do we have?

Is there a list of those that don't receive from dev fund or other funding methods?

Also What was his name? Or has the family chosen not to share it? Adding Dev Obituaries to the chain should be a good practice. So few of us leave a mark on the future when we are gone.

I'm not sure why it's taking me so long to bring this up but I assumed something like this would have been discussed by those that worked with him. Maybe it has been on reddit or IRC? My only news is from here and occasionally getmonero.org and I cannot find anything there.

First bold: I dunno if there's a list, but the core devs are a good place to start. In fact, I think the only people to receive direct funding are those involved in forum funding projects. From my understanding of how things work, the core devs really don't "snag" part of the dev donations - they use those funds to either fund developers or infrastructure (our DNS checkpointing safety net, for instance... of course that might be funded by fluffy, i dunno).

On the second bold I can only comment by not commenting As with all things monero, "soon".

no idea re: his name reveal.

This would be good to know and should probably be linked in the OP for easy access.

[wpalczynski]

Where is it written in stone that all releases have to be an element? If any release should be a exception to a naming scheme then the initial would be the one.

I can't think of a better tribute to a from what I understand was a completely altruistic contributor, btw how many of those do we have?

Is there a list of those that don't receive from dev fund or other funding methods?

Also What was his name? Or has the family chosen not to share it? Adding Dev Obituaries to the chain should be a good practice. So few of us leave a mark on the future when we are gone.

I'm not sure why it's taking me so long to bring this up but I assumed something like this would have been discussed by those that worked with him. Maybe it has been on reddit or IRC? My only news is from here and occasionally getmonero.org and I cannot find anything there.

Sounds like a great idea to me.

[Hueristic]

So who's going to submit a transaction revealing algorithm (Noble Sir)?

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36203043

[goopuss]

Hello!

I am new to this and have never mind anything. Could someone assist me in getting started?

[Nht5alusio]

how long time for synch monero wallet?
no windows qt, what is the program for synch wallet?

[smooth]

how long time for synch monero wallet?
no windows qt, what is the program for synch wallet?

Speed depends on your hardware and connection. It can be anywhere from one hour to days.

The program that does the syncing is bitmonerd. Once it is synced you use simplewallet (or one of the GUI wrappers such as lightWallet) to communicate with it.

[dEBRUYNE]

Hello!

I am new to this and have never mind anything. Could someone assist me in getting started?

Sure, what are precisely the issues you have stumbled upon? There is a setup guide here btw, it is for Linux, but for Windows it's kind of similiar:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/blob/master/knowledge-base/user-guides/create_wallet.md

[dEBRUYNE]

how long time for synch monero wallet?
no windows qt, what is the program for synch wallet?

Speed depends on your hardware and connection. It can be anywhere from one hour to days.

The program that does the syncing is bitmonerd. Once it is synced you use simplewallet (or one of the GUI wrappers such as lightWallet) to communicate with it.

The program is indeed bitmonerod, after it is fully synced you can open simplewallet. You can download the binaries from here:

https://getmonero.org/downloads/

My previous post contains a guide for setup as well.

[Erik Goff]

Hello!

I am new to this and have never mind anything. Could someone assist me in getting started?

If you like to mine monero, one of the easiest ways i found is go to moneropool.com and do what is on the 'getting started' page

[Hueristic]

So who's going to submit a transaction revealing algorithm (Noble Sir)?

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36203043

In case anyone was concerned after some digging around apparently there is some really weird aspects of qbits such that their correlations to standard bits are not linear.

The work of Proos and Zalka show how a quantum computer for breaking 2048-bit RSA requires roughly 4096 qubits, while a quantum computer to break the equivalently secure 224-bit Elliptic Curve Cryptography requires between 1300 and 1600 qubits.

So 5 q-bits is not enough to work on the problem for some reason I can't really fathom.

[AlexGR]

So 5 q-bits is not enough to work on the problem for some reason I can't really fathom.

My reasoning is that if quantum bits are anything like normal bits, then they could be emulated upwards at the cost of speed. But with quantum speeds being already too fast that wouldn't be such a problem.

[iCEBREAKER]

So who's going to submit a transaction revealing algorithm (Noble Sir)?

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36203043

In case anyone was concerned after some digging around apparently there is some really weird aspects of qbits such that their correlations to standard bits are not linear.

The work of Proos and Zalka show how a quantum computer for breaking 2048-bit RSA requires roughly 4096 qubits, while a quantum computer to break the equivalently secure 224-bit Elliptic Curve Cryptography requires between 1300 and 1600 qubits.

So 5 q-bits is not enough to work on the problem for some reason I can't really fathom.

Really weird aspects are to be expected...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/quantum-weirdness.htm

...because "quantum" (ie quantized) is the opposite of "linear."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

[nioc]

It's going to be fun watching people try to get their head around quantum physics

From my understanding the basis of quantum computing is the phenomenon of entanglement.  Although entanglement is sometimes portrayed as information being transmitted faster than the speed of light, that is not what happens.

[Hueristic]

So 5 q-bits is not enough to work on the problem for some reason I can't really fathom.

My reasoning is that if quantum bits are anything like normal bits, then they could be emulated upwards at the cost of speed. But with quantum speeds being already too fast that wouldn't be such a problem.

I'm not sure what you mean by emulated upwards, but I think you mean that we could emulate anything we currently have and we would still see a speed increase do to the instantaneous nature of the state of which we are only limited by our ability to detect that state. If so then that pretty much is what I presumed.

So who's going to submit a transaction revealing algorithm (Noble Sir)?

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36203043

In case anyone was concerned after some digging around apparently there is some really weird aspects of qbits such that their correlations to standard bits are not linear.

The work of Proos and Zalka show how a quantum computer for breaking 2048-bit RSA requires roughly 4096 qubits, while a quantum computer to break the equivalently secure 224-bit Elliptic Curve Cryptography requires between 1300 and 1600 qubits.

So 5 q-bits is not enough to work on the problem for some reason I can't really fathom.

Really weird aspects are to be expected...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/quantum-weirdness.htm

...because "quantum" (ie quantized) is the opposite of "linear."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

I was not aware that quantum is the opposite of linear. I'm aware of the double slit experiment, thanks.

What I am trying to say is a standard bit has 2 states and I assumed incorrectly that a q-bit had the same, apparently the third state of both is also quantifiable where as I had incorrectly guessed was just discarded ergo leaving a binary result. I have not done indepth reading on the subject as It would be a waste of time for me to try. But I do find it interesting and would like to know when it will become a threat to our current encryption and when it does, what the alternatives are. Apparently the alternatives (suite b) are not recommended as being safe as well currently and there are bounties out for new methods.

It's going to be fun watching people try to get their head around quantum physics

From my understanding the basis of quantum computing is the phenomenon of entanglement.  Although entanglement is sometimes portrayed as information being transmitted faster than the speed of light, that is not what happens.

You have been watching me try to do it for about a year now and failing spectacularly!

[AlexGR]

I'm not sure what you mean by emulated upwards, but I think you mean that we could emulate anything we currently have and we would still see a speed increase do to the instantaneous nature of the state of which we are only limited by our ability to detect that state. If so then that pretty much is what I presumed.

I mean using the 5 to emulate more qubits. Kind a like using an ALU to emulate an FPU or using a 8bit processor to do 16 or 32 bit math.

I wouldn't be surprised if they told us, some time later, that 2 qubits were actually enough to do everything (albeit slower).

[dEBRUYNE]

https://twitter.com/livecoin_net/status/728574138244194308

To the voting mobile, I guess?

[bytemuma]

Hello community, does anyone know where I can download the blockchain?

Thank you.