Bitcoin Forum
November 11, 2026, 09:05:59 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 32.1 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 [231] 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 ... 2132 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4678016 times)
Zer0Sum
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 1588
Merit: 1000


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 02:41:20 PM
 #4601

In its current stage it isnt even desired for MRO to be at exchanges.

What is the point of money if you can't spend it/exchange it? Nobody will want to use your currency if it has been horded by miners since day one. That will mean terrible distribution and miner top heavy control of the currency and nobody can trust it. Exchanges are the single best promotional tool that coins have. If they are not worth money, how can they be expected to be money?

None of these coins are "currency". The IRS has ruled they are virtual "commodities"... which is exactly what they are.
If CryptoNote anonymity does not become a standard, turns out to have issues... this all goes to zero eventually. Look
at the other 3 CryptoNote coins... death spiral to zero.

MRO ran up to 398 an hour ago. This is amazing.

LTC $11.00. MRO $2.70

LTC adds no value at all.

Yeah, that's what people always say...
But for some reason LTC has dramatically outperformed BTC durung the 18 month big run...
LTC (0.065 to $11.00, +17,000%)... BTC ($16.00 to $650, +4,000%).... Why?

Probably LTC adds much needed LIQUIDITY to an ecosystem...
That revolves almost entirely around mining equipment, hoarding wealth, trading, speculation...
equipoise
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 794
Merit: 1000


Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable


View Profile WWW
June 01, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
 #4602

In its current stage it isnt even desired for MRO to be at exchanges.

What is the point of money if you can't spend it/exchange it? Nobody will want to use your currency if it has been horded by miners since day one. That will mean terrible distribution and miner top heavy control of the currency and nobody can trust it. Exchanges are the single best promotional tool that coins have. If they are not worth money, how can they be expected to be money?

None of these coins are "currency". The IRS has ruled they are virtual "commodities"... which is exactly what they are.
If CryptoNote anonymity does not become a standard, turns out to have issues... this all goes to zero eventually. Look
at the other 3 CryptoNote coins... death spiral to zero.

MRO ran up to 398 an hour ago. This is amazing.

LTC $11.00. MRO $2.70

LTC adds no value at all.

Yeah, that's what people always say...
But for some reason LTC has dramatically outperformed BTC durung the 18 month big run...
LTC (0.065 to $11.00, +17,000%)... BTC ($16.00 to $650, +4,000%).... Why?

Probably LTC adds much needed LIQUIDITY to an ecosystem...
That revolves almost entirely around mining equipment, hoarding wealth, trading, speculation...
Or it was "lol, LTC is going to Huobi" thing.

About me | zRMicroArray - phase 2 - Gene Expression Analysis software | [Weed Like to Talk - Bulgaria] Start a wave of cannabis seminars in Europe | Monero weighted average price stats: moneroprice.i2p
BTC: 1KoCX7TWKVGwqmmFw3CKyUSrKRSStueZar | NMC: NKhYEYpe1Le9MwHrwKsdSm5617J4toVar9 | XMR (Tip me a beer OpenAlias Monero address): tip.changetheworldwork.com
[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency: 4AyRmUcxzefB5quumzK3HNE4zmCiGc8vhG6fE1oJpGVyVZF7fvDgSpt3MzgLfQ6Q1719xQhmfkM9Z2u NXgDMqYhjJVmc6KX
smooth
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 2982
Merit: 1203



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:00:21 PM
 #4603

In its current stage it isnt even desired for MRO to be at exchanges.

What is the point of money if you can't spend it/exchange it? Nobody will want to use your currency if it has been horded by miners since day one. That will mean terrible distribution and miner top heavy control of the currency and nobody can trust it. Exchanges are the single best promotional tool that coins have. If they are not worth money, how can they be expected to be money?

None of these coins are "currency". The IRS has ruled they are virtual "commodities"... which is exactly what they are.
If CryptoNote anonymity does not become a standard, turns out to have issues... this all goes to zero eventually. Look
at the other 3 CryptoNote coins... death spiral to zero.

MRO ran up to 398 an hour ago. This is amazing.

LTC $11.00. MRO $2.70

LTC adds no value at all.

Yeah, that's what people always say...
But for some reason LTC has dramatically outperformed BTC durung the 18 month big run...
LTC (0.065 to $11.00, +17,000%)... BTC ($16.00 to $650, +4,000%).... Why?

Probably LTC adds much needed LIQUIDITY to an ecosystem...
That revolves almost entirely around mining equipment, hoarding wealth, trading, speculation...

That word liquidity, does not mean what you think it means.
Patejl
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 532
Merit: 501


You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:16:35 PM
 #4604

Download link for Linux binaries doesn't work.  Cry



                                         ▄
                 ▄▄████████▄▄         ▄▄██
 ▄▄           ▄██▀▀        ▀▀██▄    ▄███▀
 ▀███▄▄     ▄█▀                ▀█▄▄█████▀
  ▀██████▄▄█▀                ▄▄███████▀
   ▐█████████▄           ▄▄███████████
     ▀█████████▄▄      ▄█████████████
       ▀██████████    ███████████████
        ▐▀█████████  █████████████▀ ▐▌
        ▐▌ ▀▀██████ ▐███████████▀   ▐▌
        ▐▌      ▀██ ▐█████████▀     ▐▌
         █        ▀  ██████         █
         ▐█          ▐█████▄       █▌
          ▀█▄         ▀██████▄   ▄█▀
            ▀█▄         ▀█████▌▄█▀
              ▀██▄▄       ▀▄▄██▀
                ▀▀████████▀▀
T
....ANGEL TOKEN....


                                         ▄
                 ▄▄████████▄▄         ▄▄██
 ▄▄           ▄██▀▀        ▀▀██▄    ▄█▀█▀ 
 ▀█▀█▄▄     ▄█▀                ▀█▄▄█  ▄█▀ 
  ▀█  ▀▀█▄▄█▀                ▄▄██░   █▀   
   ▐▄▄  ░░░▀█▄           ▄▄█▀▀░░░   ▄█     
     ▀█▄ ░░░▒▒█▄▄      ▄██▒▒▒▒▒░    █     
       ▀▄▄ ░░▒▒▒▓█    ██▒▒▒▒▒▒░   ▄▄█     
        ▐▀█▄░░▒▒▓██  █▓▒▒▒▒▒▒░  ▄█▀ ▐▌     
        ▐▌ ▀▀█▒▓███░▐█▓▒▒▒▒░░ ▄█▀   ▐▌     
        ▐▌      ▀██ ▐█▓▓▒▒▄▄▄█▀     ▐▌     
         █        ▀  █▓█▀▀█         █     
         ▐█          ▐▄▓░ █▄       █▌     
          ▀█▄         ▀█▒░ ▀█▄   ▄█▀       
            ▀█▄         ▀█▄▄▄█▌▄█▀         
              ▀██▄▄       ▀▄▄██▀           
                 ▀▀████████▀▀             

othe
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 532
Merit: 500


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:17:39 PM
 #4605

In its current stage it isnt even desired for MRO to be at exchanges.

What is the point of money if you can't spend it/exchange it? Nobody will want to use your currency if it has been horded by miners since day one. That will mean terrible distribution and miner top heavy control of the currency and nobody can trust it. Exchanges are the single best promotional tool that coins have. If they are not worth money, how can they be expected to be money?

None of these coins are "currency". The IRS has ruled they are virtual "commodities"... which is exactly what they are.
If CryptoNote anonymity does not become a standard, turns out to have issues... this all goes to zero eventually. Look
at the other 3 CryptoNote coins... death spiral to zero.

MRO ran up to 398 an hour ago. This is amazing.

LTC $11.00. MRO $2.70




LTC adds no value at all.

Yeah, that's what people always say...
But for some reason LTC has dramatically outperformed BTC durung the 18 month big run...
LTC (0.065 to $11.00, +17,000%)... BTC ($16.00 to $650, +4,000%).... Why?

Probably LTC adds much needed LIQUIDITY to an ecosystem...
That revolves almost entirely around mining equipment, hoarding wealth, trading, speculation...

I agree, LTC is important for the market.

However the percentage numbers are a bit misleading because its far easier for "cheaper" coin to double and triple in price then for something that is already worth a lot more - thats also the reason i see an enormous growth potential in MRO as its still pretty "cheap".

smooth
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 2982
Merit: 1203



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:30:27 PM
 #4606

In its current stage it isnt even desired for MRO to be at exchanges.

What is the point of money if you can't spend it/exchange it? Nobody will want to use your currency if it has been horded by miners since day one. That will mean terrible distribution and miner top heavy control of the currency and nobody can trust it. Exchanges are the single best promotional tool that coins have. If they are not worth money, how can they be expected to be money?

None of these coins are "currency". The IRS has ruled they are virtual "commodities"... which is exactly what they are.
If CryptoNote anonymity does not become a standard, turns out to have issues... this all goes to zero eventually. Look
at the other 3 CryptoNote coins... death spiral to zero.

MRO ran up to 398 an hour ago. This is amazing.

LTC $11.00. MRO $2.70




LTC adds no value at all.

Yeah, that's what people always say...
But for some reason LTC has dramatically outperformed BTC durung the 18 month big run...
LTC (0.065 to $11.00, +17,000%)... BTC ($16.00 to $650, +4,000%).... Why?

Probably LTC adds much needed LIQUIDITY to an ecosystem...
That revolves almost entirely around mining equipment, hoarding wealth, trading, speculation...

I agree, LTC is important for the market.

However the percentage numbers are a bit misleading because its far easier for "cheaper" coin to double and triple in price then for something that is already worth a lot more - thats also the reason i see an enormous growth potential in MRO as its still pretty "cheap".

The bigger point is that MRO can do everything LTC does, and more.

The best reason I've seen for LTC to have any value is that people want alternatives, someplace else to go if BTC runs aground. MRO does that better  because LTC shares too much in common with BTC, a big monoculture problem that MRO does not share.

This ignores the added appeal of enhanced privacy. Even without those MRO has the potential to easily surpass LTC.




drawingthesun
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1018


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:33:27 PM
 #4607

Remember guys the future battle isn't between some scam coin (XC, Dark) or even a real coin like Litecoin, but the battle will be between the great four (as I have came to call them).

Bitcoin.
Ethereum.
Nxt.
Monero.

I'm still on the lookout for anything else to add to this list.
smooth
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 2982
Merit: 1203



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:42:24 PM
 #4608

Remember guys the future battle isn't between some scam coin (XC, Dark) or even a real coin like Litecoin, but the battle will be between the great four (as I have came to call them).

Bitcoin.
Ethereum.
Nxt.
Monero.

I'm still on the lookout for anything else to add to this list.

I agree with you for the most part except that I'd consider LTC to be one of the biggest scam coins of them all. Just because it got big does not mean it wasn't a scam.

But since it isn't on your list (or mine), I guess it doesn't much matter any more.

Patejl
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 532
Merit: 501


You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
Last edit: June 01, 2014, 04:02:07 PM by Patejl
 #4609

How to run new version of Monero in Ubuntu 13.10? I don't get it.
I got some error about boost 1.55. WTF? My old version compiled from source worked great, btw.

libboost_system.so.1.55.0 : cannot open shared object file

nevermind, im compiling from source again. Those binaries sucks.



                                         ▄
                 ▄▄████████▄▄         ▄▄██
 ▄▄           ▄██▀▀        ▀▀██▄    ▄███▀
 ▀███▄▄     ▄█▀                ▀█▄▄█████▀
  ▀██████▄▄█▀                ▄▄███████▀
   ▐█████████▄           ▄▄███████████
     ▀█████████▄▄      ▄█████████████
       ▀██████████    ███████████████
        ▐▀█████████  █████████████▀ ▐▌
        ▐▌ ▀▀██████ ▐███████████▀   ▐▌
        ▐▌      ▀██ ▐█████████▀     ▐▌
         █        ▀  ██████         █
         ▐█          ▐█████▄       █▌
          ▀█▄         ▀██████▄   ▄█▀
            ▀█▄         ▀█████▌▄█▀
              ▀██▄▄       ▀▄▄██▀
                ▀▀████████▀▀
T
....ANGEL TOKEN....


                                         ▄
                 ▄▄████████▄▄         ▄▄██
 ▄▄           ▄██▀▀        ▀▀██▄    ▄█▀█▀ 
 ▀█▀█▄▄     ▄█▀                ▀█▄▄█  ▄█▀ 
  ▀█  ▀▀█▄▄█▀                ▄▄██░   █▀   
   ▐▄▄  ░░░▀█▄           ▄▄█▀▀░░░   ▄█     
     ▀█▄ ░░░▒▒█▄▄      ▄██▒▒▒▒▒░    █     
       ▀▄▄ ░░▒▒▒▓█    ██▒▒▒▒▒▒░   ▄▄█     
        ▐▀█▄░░▒▒▓██  █▓▒▒▒▒▒▒░  ▄█▀ ▐▌     
        ▐▌ ▀▀█▒▓███░▐█▓▒▒▒▒░░ ▄█▀   ▐▌     
        ▐▌      ▀██ ▐█▓▓▒▒▄▄▄█▀     ▐▌     
         █        ▀  █▓█▀▀█         █     
         ▐█          ▐▄▓░ █▄       █▌     
          ▀█▄         ▀█▒░ ▀█▄   ▄█▀       
            ▀█▄         ▀█▄▄▄█▌▄█▀         
              ▀██▄▄       ▀▄▄██▀           
                 ▀▀████████▀▀             

monero (OP)
Jr. Member
*
Offline

Activity: 54
Merit: 310


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 05:18:23 PM
 #4610

Breaking news: you can get free pizza delivered!

All you have to do is be one of the first 5 to post in this thread - be sure to read the rules first:)

- updated by fluffypony
TTM
Full Member
***
Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 05:44:40 PM
 #4611

Is there any ETA for when will block time be increased to 2 or 3 minutes ?
Zer0Sum
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 1588
Merit: 1000


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 05:52:46 PM
 #4612

Remember guys the future battle isn't between some scam coin (XC, Dark) or even a real coin like Litecoin, but the battle will be between the great four (as I have came to call them).

Bitcoin.
Ethereum.
Nxt.
Monero.

I'm still on the lookout for anything else to add to this list.

Oh, I forgot that the internet only has 4 players. It must be the "network effect".

This is no longer a serious discussion...
When Google, Amazon, Apple, the banks start to play Crypto Currency for real...
Nothing coming out of BitcoinTalk will matter.

sorryforthat
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 500



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 06:15:51 PM
 #4613

So would there be a way to create a checkpoint within the daemon that splits the blockchain into multiple files at a certain heights. The splits would be catelogued and organized and sit in limbo waiting to be called for if needed. Lowering the need for high memory due to increased blockchain size over time.
alladin100
Newbie
*
Offline

Activity: 2
Merit: 0


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 06:16:04 PM
 #4614

MONERO is totally the most profitable coin! Do you know where investing is it gonna lead you? Exactly. TO THE MOOON! Happy trading!
gminerz
Member
**
Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
June 01, 2014, 06:16:12 PM
 #4615

Why Cryptsy and Mintpal didn't add MRO to coin voting?

afaik its a technical issue. to add a bitcoin/litecoin-clone is no big deal for them. but monero etc are different and require some extra work to do.

they just dont know how to add this coin

dont ask them what they cant do..
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1011



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
 #4616

So would there be a way to create a checkpoint within the daemon that splits the blockchain into multiple files at a certain heights. The splits would be catelogued and organized and sit in limbo waiting to be called for if needed. Lowering the need for high memory due to increased blockchain size over time.

The ideal solution is a proper database implementation -- the ByteCoin devs appear to be working on it, so we're waiting on them, but after 1 y or so we'll need a proper db.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1011



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
 #4617

Is there any ETA for when will block time be increased to 2 or 3 minutes ?

Any hardfork changes like this should be considered for an extensive period of time before being implemented. Even a change to 2 min will only drive the orphan rate to about 15%, as shown with BCN. Unfortunately, there are many factors contributing to the orphan rate right now (slow hashing function, P2P net code) and unless you extend the block time dramatically I don't think we'll see the orphan rates drop to anywhere near something like LTC with 2 min blocks.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
sorryforthat
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 500



View Profile
June 01, 2014, 06:31:38 PM
 #4618

So would there be a way to create a checkpoint within the daemon that splits the blockchain into multiple files at a certain heights. The splits would be catelogued and organized and sit in limbo waiting to be called for if needed. Lowering the need for high memory due to increased blockchain size over time.

The ideal solution is a proper database implementation -- the ByteCoin devs appear to be working on it, so we're waiting on them, but after 1 y or so we'll need a proper db.

So somthing similar to TimeKoin. I think they are doing something along the lines of SQL.
David Latapie
Hero Member
*****
Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 508


Monero Core Team


View Profile WWW
June 01, 2014, 06:32:08 PM
 #4619

Download link for Linux binaries doesn't work.  Cry
That's a Cloudflare thing. Try later on compile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6945897#msg6945897 may help).

Edit: fixed

Monero: the first crytocurrency to bring bank secrecy and net neutrality to the blockchain.HyperStake: pushing the limits of staking.
Reputation threadFree bitcoins: reviews, hints…: freebitco.in, freedoge.co.in, qoinpro
fluffypony
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1069


GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com


View Profile WWW
June 01, 2014, 06:36:50 PM
 #4620

So would there be a way to create a checkpoint within the daemon that splits the blockchain into multiple files at a certain heights. The splits would be catelogued and organized and sit in limbo waiting to be called for if needed. Lowering the need for high memory due to increased blockchain size over time.

The ideal solution is a proper database implementation -- the ByteCoin devs appear to be working on it, so we're waiting on them, but after 1 y or so we'll need a proper db.

So somthing similar to TimeKoin. I think they are doing something along the lines of SQL.

More like what Bitcoin uses - Berkley DB or something. I don't think sqlite would be performant enough, but maybe worth a looksie when we have the time:)

Pages: « 1 ... 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 [231] 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 ... 2132 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!