[ANN] MON | Monocle | Merge Mined on VTC Vertcoin - No Premine - Scrypt-N

[bholzer]

Has HashHarder mined any Vertcoin yet? I see nothing listed under Scheduled Payments on their site.

You have to realize that there is only 125 Mh/s being thrown at the VTC/MON networks at HashHarder - this is about 1/60 of the VTC network speed. At 2.5 minute block targets, that means HashHarder will only be finding a VTC block every 2 1/2 hours, on average. Obviously luck becomes a bigger factor at this point but it wouldn't be unusual to go 3-4 hours without seeing a VTC block. That being said, over 1/4 of the MON network speed is going through HashHarder so, as far as merged-mining goes, HashHarder should be one of the most consistent places to mine right now (assuming everything is working properly - I just wanted to reassure everyone that the lack of VTC blocks is not a red flag).

[MxBluE]

Hey Boris, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we're P2Pool mining VTC and solo mining MON.

[bholzer]

Is it normal to have only 120-130 khs with 270x?

No - you should shoot for about 48% of what you get mining scrypt.

[ymer]

Boris?

[mfedorov]

Hey Boris, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we're P2Pool mining VTC and solo mining MON.

Yes, that's been said many times here.

[coa032]

Is it normal to have only 120-130 khs with 270x?

No - you should shoot for about 48% of what you get mining scrypt.

Something is wrong...I've tried everything and nothing...1040/1400,intensity 18 and it wont go over 130 khs

[S_tring]

I'm receiving VTC from my local p2pool, but no MON as yet. Is there a way to check that I am definitely merged mining? I'm only throwing 620 Kh/s at it, so maybe the MON is gonna take a while to show?

Anyway, if I try monocled getbalance it shows 0.00000

Not sure if I'm only mining VTC here. 

[bholzer]

Is it normal to have only 120-130 khs with 270x?

No - you should shoot for about 48% of what you get mining scrypt.

Something is wrong...I've tried everything and nothing...1040/1400,intensity 18 and it wont go over 130 khs

Try:
intensity: 13 (or even 12)
gpu-threads: 2
thread-concurrency: 6400

Clocks should be fine. I don't have a 270x but that seems to be what most people are having success with.

[mfedorov]

I'm receiving VTC from my local p2pool, but no MON as yet. Is there a way to check that I am definitely merged mining? I'm only throwing 620 Kh/s at it, so maybe the MON is gonna take a while to show?

Anyway, if I try monocled getbalance it shows 0.00000

Not sure if I'm only mining VTC here. 

monocled listaccounts

[Kalizar]

I am assuming my MON address will show up after a payment is sent?

[bengtåke]

I am assuming my MON address will show up after a payment is sent?

You're assuming correct. But i'm updating that right now..

[cubevtc]

Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but does this seem right for my pool server?

mysql> select sum(monvalue) from stats_shares;
+-------------------+
| sum(monvalue)     |
+-------------------+
| 4.443734682918838 |
+-------------------+
1 row in set (0.02 sec)


linux:~/monocle$ ./monocled getbalance
1.00000000

Showing I should have 4.44 mon, but the wallet only has 1?

Just my machines running on this p2pool at the moment.  No payouts yet :|

The payment system uses a variant of Pay-Per-Share, which involves storing a value for every single valid share whether the node finds blocks or not. The difference with this system compared to normal pps is that it will not pay out more than it earns (unlike some pps pools where users can get credited more coins than the pool actually has, one of the reasons pps pools have so high fees). Since you're effectively solomining on a network that currently has ~515Mhash you will not find blocks very often unless you have a very high hashrate. But it will still save all your shares for when the pool is lucky, because at those points it can pay more. This means that you haven't really earned those shares, they're just an indication of what you could be paid if the pool was super lucky (e.g was always finding blocks at the expected time or faster). You can read more at http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/capped-pps-recent-backpay

Also, there are two settings in sharelogger.conf "minbalance" and "mon_min_tx", their default values are 1.0, this means that to pay you anything (assuming you are the only miner and 0% fees) the pool would need a balance of 2 MON. You can reduce these but keep in mind that there are no free transactions with monocle and the minimum fee is 0.01. This idea is to get people used to higher fees, which are needed later on to provide enough incentive for miners to actually mine the coin once the block reward goes to 0.

That being said, you might have immature blocks, use "listtransactions" or "listaccounts" to see the immature blocks or see the total balance.

I have similar questions too. Thanks for clarifying.  

When I do a 'vertcoind listtransactions' and 'monocled listtransactions', I see they are all immature.  So I guess coins will not be paid out until they are fully matured.

And when I do a 'vertcoind listaccounts', I see

{
    "" : some coin value,  
    "p2pool" : 0.00000000
}

There are two accounts, account '' has a value and account 'p2pool' has zero value.  Account '' has a balance value that matches what the pool has earned.  But why is account 'p2pool' having zero?  Is there something wrong or is it by design?

[S_tring]

I'm receiving VTC from my local p2pool, but no MON as yet. Is there a way to check that I am definitely merged mining? I'm only throwing 620 Kh/s at it, so maybe the MON is gonna take a while to show?

Anyway, if I try monocled getbalance it shows 0.00000

Not sure if I'm only mining VTC here. 

monocled listaccounts

Thanks, output is below. So, all is good?

{
    "" : 0.00000000
}

[Kalizar]

I am assuming my MON address will show up after a payment is sent?

You're assuming correct. But i'm updating that right now..

Sounds great, thank you. ^_^

[mfedorov]

I'm receiving VTC from my local p2pool, but no MON as yet. Is there a way to check that I am definitely merged mining? I'm only throwing 620 Kh/s at it, so maybe the MON is gonna take a while to show?

Anyway, if I try monocled getbalance it shows 0.00000

Not sure if I'm only mining VTC here. 

monocled listaccounts

Thanks, output is below. So, all is good?

{
    "" : 0.00000000
}

monocled listtransactions

[bengtåke]

I have similar questions too. Thanks for clarifying.  

When I do a 'vertcoind listtransactions' and 'monocled listtransactions', I see they are all immature.  So I guess coins will not be paid out until they are fully matured.

And when I do a 'vertcoind listaccounts', I see

{
    "" : some coin value,  
    "p2pool" : 0.00000000
}

There are two accounts, account '' has a value and account 'p2pool' has zero value.  Account '' has a balance value that matches what the pool has earned.  But why is account 'p2pool' having zero?  Is there something wrong or is it by design?

I don't understand what you're asking. How are you using the "p2pool" account and what are you expecting to be there?

[coa032]

Is it normal to have only 120-130 khs with 270x?

No - you should shoot for about 48% of what you get mining scrypt.

Something is wrong...I've tried everything and nothing...1040/1400,intensity 18 and it wont go over 130 khs

Try:
intensity: 13 (or even 12)
gpu-threads: 2
thread-concurrency: 6400

Clocks should be fine. I don't have a 270x but that seems to be what most people are having success with.

Thanks...it works now

[S_tring]

I'm receiving VTC from my local p2pool, but no MON as yet. Is there a way to check that I am definitely merged mining? I'm only throwing 620 Kh/s at it, so maybe the MON is gonna take a while to show?

Anyway, if I try monocled getbalance it shows 0.00000

Not sure if I'm only mining VTC here. 

monocled listaccounts

Thanks, output is below. So, all is good?

{
    "" : 0.00000000
}

monocled listtransactions

Not looking good...

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[freddingo]

Is it normal to have only 120-130 khs with 270x?

No - you should shoot for about 48% of what you get mining scrypt.

Something is wrong...I've tried everything and nothing...1040/1400,intensity 18 and it wont go over 130 khs

Try:
intensity: 13 (or even 12)
gpu-threads: 2
thread-concurrency: 6400

Clocks should be fine. I don't have a 270x but that seems to be what most people are having success with.

Thanks...it works now

I just tweaked my 270's (nonx) and am getting around 220khs with the following, note that one is on an underclock "gimpy" because I voltmodded them and he is unstable in the head.  These are configs for the 'kev' miner, note rawintensity and 2 threads at once.

 "auto-fan": true,
    "auto-gpu" : true,
    "gpu-fan": "50-100",
    "temp-cutoff": "95",
    "temp-overheat": "85",
    "temp-target": "75",
    "gpu-threads" : "2",
    "worksize": "256",
    "rawintensity" : "5120",
    "gpu-engine":"600-1050,600-1050,600-850,600-1050,600-1050",
    "thread-concurrency": "7039",

    "api-port": "4028",
    "api-listen": true,
    "api-allow": "W:127.0.0.1",

    "failover-only" : true,
    "no-pool-disable": true,

    "queue": "0",

    "kernel-path": "/usr/local/bin"

[Coin_Viking]

It may have been asked before, and for that I apologise, but I'm curious, currently mining on the vtcpool.co.uk p2pool and getting MON payouts but nothing for VTC. Since this a p2pool format, with my hashing abilities should be getting about 3-5 VTC an hour, are they delayed? Realize pplns can take a while to ramp up but typically after an hour I'd be starting to receive some on a regular VTC p2pool.  Does merge mining alter the typical expected payout  (takes longer etc... Just trying to learn more about it thx to everyone that provides input/clarification of my queries.