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June 04, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
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C-cex need "some" more traded volume on MOTO/BTC  Sad
So we need
MOTO:    0.01 BTC (0.00%)

at least 5.9 BTC traded until 17/06/2015  Undecided

I didn't ever know they brought MOTO back.
Me neither. They never posted it in here.
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June 08, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
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So while I was messing around with something I found another way to access the Motocoin website!

http://motocoin-dev.github.io/motocoin-site/   Ta daa!

If only williamlie2 could change the source of the images in the OP.
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June 29, 2015, 07:47:52 PM
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So while I was messing around with something I found another way to access the Motocoin website!

http://motocoin-dev.github.io/motocoin-site/   Ta daa!

If only williamlie2 could change the source of the images in the OP.

great job!

Playcoin is a good name
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August 08, 2015, 11:29:20 AM
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Hey look, HunterMinerCrafter is back.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24526

I wonder what he's up to now.
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August 08, 2015, 11:40:15 AM
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Hey look, HunterMinerCrafter is back.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24526

I wonder what he's up to now.

Hopefully tweaking MOTO in some spare time. Btw, I got my coins back from C-Cex, 120 K Smiley
Took only 4 months.
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August 14, 2015, 05:21:27 PM
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Hey guys, guess what HunterMinerCrafter has been up to?

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115118/tau-chain-a-decentralized-app-store-with-greater-flexibility-than-ethereum
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September 10, 2015, 06:15:17 PM
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Guys! Something's happening on c-cex.

Let's support MOTO and put some buy orders! (or dump and finally kill it lol)
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September 10, 2015, 07:36:13 PM
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Guys! Something's happening on c-cex.

Let's support MOTO and put some buy orders! (or dump and finally kill it lol)

It's a nice rally, but not so much buysupport.
Hopefully the price will recover more so that dev's get interest to come back and make something out of it.
What if we just gather a team of people willing to do something for it, we could market and develop and give more purpose to it's existence.
 

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September 10, 2015, 08:08:43 PM
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What if we just gather a team of people willing to do something for it, we could market and develop and give more purpose to it's existence.

Yep. Let's form "MOTO holders association" or something) and make a fund to collect some MOTO for the new dev.


Also, it would be nice if WilliamLie2 showed himself here (even if he don't want to further develop MOTO) so if we find a new dev, he could give him access to repository, twitter and so on.


WilliamLie2! Come online please!
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September 11, 2015, 11:25:25 AM
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I will promote it some on my channel.

https://twitter.com/CryptoTraders/status/642297462997315584

If other people do not want to give up on this coin, perhaps it's a good moment to speak up. A simple 'hi' will do or perhaps show support by buying some  Cheesy
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September 11, 2015, 05:28:56 PM
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Can anybody reach WilliamLie2 and force him to login? Maybe someone knows his email or new account.

I think it would be hard to pass MOTO development to somebody else without his help.
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September 14, 2015, 12:53:11 PM
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This is a pretty cool idea, an android version of the game would be massive!  I can see that there are some issues which I hope get sorted out soon, I only have a handful and afraid can't offer anything on the tech side but I wish you luck and support.
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September 28, 2015, 05:33:05 PM
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If other people do not want to give up on this coin, perhaps it's a good moment to speak up. A simple 'hi' will do or perhaps show support by buying some  Cheesy

HI!  Cheesy
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September 28, 2015, 05:39:44 PM
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If other people do not want to give up on this coin, perhaps it's a good moment to speak up. A simple 'hi' will do or perhaps show support by buying some  Cheesy

HI!  Cheesy

Welcome back.
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September 30, 2015, 08:04:55 PM
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If other people do not want to give up on this coin, perhaps it's a good moment to speak up. A simple 'hi' will do or perhaps show support by buying some  Cheesy

HI!  Cheesy

Welcome.
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October 02, 2015, 08:07:50 PM
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OK, well I just bought a nice load of coins. Maybe Motocoin will be a success in the future.

Thanks for coming back HunterMinerCrafter.
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October 12, 2015, 03:50:23 PM
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Anything new?
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October 12, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
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Anything new?

I've been in contact with (someone claiming to be) our dominant bot operator.  (They have not yet done anything to confirm their identity as such.) They also claim to hold the vast majority of the coins, more than the sum of what has been claimed by the dominant bot to date.

They've expressed interest in seeing the coin succeed. 

However, we have yet to come to any agreement as to how would be best to go about this.

They first proposed a move to a traditional PoW, securing blocks by hashing as in huntercoin.  As I see it, this would amount to trading one unique form of mining centralization for another more commonplace one.  I don't see this as an improvement.  Further, as I don't see any inherent insecurity in the current work function I don't see any strict need to ditch the current work function.

Then they proposed something of a hybrid, allowing players to play levels for coins without wall-clock time limits, but not using that play to secure the block.  They proposed a 50/50 split between "chain-securing" level rewards and "untimed" level rewards, allowing one "untimed" solution per secured block.  However, all that this would seem to accomplish is making half of the reward given out for "free" to people who are not actually working toward securing the network.  This is not how blockchain incentive should work, and there is no reason to believe that the bots wouldn't simply also claim these free rewards.  Further, this would be highly complex to do in a way that does not allow for a miner to simply claim the solution found by someone else for the "untimed" reward.  (It is possible, but would require some nontrivial protocol changes and would likely almost double average block sizes, contributing to db bloat.)  I don't see this solution as being better than my previous "N-heads" proposal, and even done correctly it would still reduce the security of the network by half.  Doing it correctly would also be significantly more complex than just implementing a "two heads" mechanism, with roughly the same security tradeoff *at best*.

I've tried to express to them that the solution is not a change in protocol, but an increase in mining strength on the network.

I've tried to encourage them to release the dominant bot's design publicly, to restore competition and end the implicit 51% attack.  They claim that their bot is "pretty dumb" and that they could easily make one 10X or 100X more capable.  This just confuses me, because if it were true then the obvious thing to do would be to give out their current bot and then start running the 10x stronger one.

I've tried to encourage them to consider long term viability of the network and distribution of mining strength ahead of their own profit motive.

I've tried to encourage them to treat security as necessarily more critical in the immediate term than popularity and spot price.

They've tried to encourage me to change the coin to traditional PoW, to "promote it" before securing it, to use my BTC to "restore price and generate volumes," to "try to get maximum profit from it," to "try to add moto to all major exchanges" and to "make moto more popular."  None of these are concerns ahead of the security of the network.  These also don't seem to align with what I would expect the concerns of the bot operator to actually be, so these things were a little surprising to me.  I would think that someone capable of writing such a bot would also be capable of understanding why popularity of the coin is entirely irrelevant so long as the network continues to be implicitly insecure and at their whim.

At this point, I am not sure if I should even continue the discussion without at least requiring them to confirm their identity as the operator of the bot.



Thoughts?
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October 12, 2015, 08:21:26 PM
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Anything new?
At this point, I am not sure if I should even continue the discussion without at least requiring them to confirm their identity as the operator of the bot.

Thoughts?
Interesting. It does seem that this so called "bot operator" sounds to be fake. I would ask for a confirmation to find out if he is lying. Especially if he claims to have more coins than what would sound to be possible.

What about the bot operator that released their bot? Have they said anything?
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October 12, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
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I've been in contact with (someone claiming to be) our dominant bot operator.  (They have not yet done anything to confirm their identity as such.) They also claim to hold the vast majority of the coins, more than the sum of what has been claimed by the dominant bot to date.

I've been asked to clarify this point.  In his original statement, he was referring to the combined holdings of himself and an investor.  He did not elaborate on what the ratio of holdings was.  This combined amount is greater than what has been claimed by the bot, but my statement that this person holds more than this themselves was assumptive.

My apologies for unintentionally misrepresenting the claim.
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