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October 21, 2014, 11:42:00 PM
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Personally, I'm pretty disappointed to see that we might not even break 13k after SuperNET has invested his 100BTC. By all means he did the right thing in throwing his buy order (semi)low on the books and letting the ones who decided to fold come to him. I wasn't expecting him to just carelessly fill buy orders all the way up to 20k.

On the same note - I was definitely hoping we'd see some more action than a bounce from 9k up to 12k and then back to 9 again... Maybe on the next 100BTC ;0

Welcome to the club of disappointed bagholders. Now perhaps you can understand why people who bought into this coin at 40k-50k - when Nosker and Effect were making the hype about crypto history, worldwide media events, etc. with the scammer Wizrig - being disappointed here. I got into VRC when the price was 17K, but I still disappointed about the lack of progress and fully sympathize with the mislead investors who believed the promises of the Devs/Wizrig scam-combo around 40-50k.

Having said that, I am not entirely blaming the devs - except that they should never ever associate with the scammer Wizrig and since that at least they could work to make up that scam -, but clearly this is not a good time for alt crypto investment at all, so even if the devs would be the most talented and hard working professionals, probably that wouldn't matter much in this difficult market.

no matter what the devs said, i never liked wizrig.. from the first hangout i've seen him
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                              “VeriCoin , SuperNET and SNRN

With VeriCoin’s status as a Core Coin in SuperNET all but certain it’s a dynamic time for the VRC Community.  As much as it will remain the same coin, it’s inevitable there will be changes. VRCRadio is embracing the challenge these changes will create.

 Lootz’s  expertise enabled  VRCRadio  to recover from a downward spiral caused by technical issues and provider ineptitude. However, the realities of the real world made it clear that for broadcasting to continue a source of revenue had to found.

The launch of the revamped  VRCRadio features a complete rebranding of the upgraded Website as http://www.VeriCoinRadio.com . This new web presence is under the umbrella of SuperNetRadioNetwork (SNRN).

With  “Flagship” station www.supernetadio.com providing 24/7 programming, all Supernet related  Coins, Assets, and Entities will recieve access to an individualised  website containing  a LIVE!  broadcasting platform,  "On Demand"  Replays of previous SuperNET Radio presentations, as well as Google+, Twitter, and FaceBook associations.   As SuperNET expands, any addition, inclusion, and implementation to SuperNET will spawn a corresponding full featured SNRN affiliate.

For the immediate present I will continue with VeriCoinRadio as well as broadcasting SuperNET related news. In the VERI near future Links will be appearing announcing SNRN with particulars on how it works and what it encompasses. The short version is, an asset, SNRN, has been created on the NXT Asset Exchange and upon issuance will trade on the open market as a dividend paying financial instrument.

The creation of SNRN will ensure a continuing webwide media presence for VeriCoin across multiple platforms.

VeriCoin and the VRC Community have reinvigorated my daily doings. With a special mention to “Effects’’ for his patient help with my wallet in the early days and his ever present support for VRCRadio I want to say thank you. I’m looking forward to a continuing relationship with VeriCoin as I continue along lifes’ paths.

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October 22, 2014, 11:38:43 AM
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Personally, I'm pretty disappointed to see that we might not even break 13k after SuperNET has invested his 100BTC. By all means he did the right thing in throwing his buy order (semi)low on the books and letting the ones who decided to fold come to him. I wasn't expecting him to just carelessly fill buy orders all the way up to 20k.

On the same note - I was definitely hoping we'd see some more action than a bounce from 9k up to 12k and then back to 9 again... Maybe on the next 100BTC ;0

Welcome to the club of disappointed bagholders. Now perhaps you can understand why people who bought into this coin at 40k-50k - when Nosker and Effect were making the hype about crypto history, worldwide media events, etc. with the scammer Wizrig - being disappointed here. I got into VRC when the price was 17K, but I still disappointed about the lack of progress and fully sympathize with the mislead investors who believed the promises of the Devs/Wizrig scam-combo around 40-50k.

Having said that, I am not entirely blaming the devs - except that they should never ever associate with the scammer Wizrig and since that at least they could work to make up that scam -, but clearly this is not a good time for alt crypto investment at all, so even if the devs would be the most talented and hard working professionals, probably that wouldn't matter much in this difficult market.

no matter what the devs said, i never liked wizrig.. from the first hangout i've seen him

It says a lot about the devs that they sat at one table with the scammer Wizrig and presented him as a team member when they were talking about making crypto history in the first hangout. That's all right, everyone makes mistakes and lets assume the devs couldn't see through on Wizrig, that's fine we got over it, but which is most concerns me is that the new supreme cheerleader that Jay Jay guy still keep talks in high regard about the crypto-history maker, worldwide VRC party organizer, scammer Wizrig. Really, that's the new VRC community leader who still think Wizrig was beneficial for this coin?

It clearly indicates that Jay Jay, the new vericoin community leader is in the same league as his friend Wizrig is. I saw yesterday that Jay Jay tweeted, that right now the price is low because it is accumulating phase, i.e people are very busy in buying VRC. Scammers would say anything to get 1-2 BTC from uninformed people (they hope from new investors). Right now the mantra is that VRC is in accumulating phase. It does not make sense economically nor logically nor factually, but they still spread the scam to trick people into this stagnating and failing operation. Jay Jay topped his usual BS of "very big things happening behind the closed doors" with a new BS that this is the accumulating phase.

Someone should tell that Jay Jay guy in your new super wonderful forum a) stop spreading BS, it does not do any good for the coin b) if he promoted himself to community leader then act with integrity. One scammer, his friend Wizrig was enough for this operation, we don't need another one.
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    Positive. I know who dumped and he did so for a good reason. (So James gets his coins etc.)

    He's long term VeriCoin supporter and has PLENTY left. Smiley

    *Still wish it was Kleineapp... smh

    All is well. :cool:
     

another shady deal that has happened behind closed doors that has hurt the price of vrc, just in order to provide a cheaper entry point for jl777s 100 btc and make him happy b/c hes been stringng this vericoin corecoin deal along like a carrot on a stick....

how many iffy deals is that now??  wiz? moohlah? wheres coinsis and veribank?? they run with the money too?

it looks to some out here that jay jay has just been spamming twitter looking for more sketchy ppl to make deals with..

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and lol at kevando selling out to be supernet spokesperson...

and lol at everyone falling for this scheme to make nxt not worthless to the few tht hodl the majority of all the nxt out there.

but seems jl's here to stay and free to trade amoungst himself now that he has cemented his way into the market....

had such high hopes for vericoin....


oh well....

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October 22, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
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It clearly indicates that Jay Jay, the new vericoin community leader is in the same league as his friend Wizrig is. I saw yesterday that Jay Jay tweeted, that right now the price is low because it is accumulating phase, i.e people are very busy in buying VRC. Scammers would say anything to get 1-2 BTC from uninformed people (they hope from new investors). Right now the mantra is that VRC is in accumulating phase. It does not make sense economically nor logically nor factually, but they still spread the scam to trick people into this stagnating and failing operation. Jay Jay topped his usual BS of "very big things happening behind the closed doors" with a new BS that this is the accumulating phase.

Someone should tell that Jay Jay guy in your new super wonderful forum a) stop spreading BS, it does not do any good for the coin b) if he promoted himself to community leader then act with integrity. One scammer, his friend Wizrig was enough for this operation, we don't need another one.

I don't see any tweets by Jay Jay from yesterday (or even any time recently) where he says that the price is low because "it's in an accumulating phase". Nor do I see ANYONE pushing that as the "VeriCoin mantra". From what I can see, only a single soul has tweeted ANYTHING about accumulation in the past three+ weeks.

What you saw was Jay Jay replying to a tweet by @kunachii that mentioned accumulation. He quoted the original tweet in his reply and added "Loading up." to the end. How incredibly... unremarkable.

What I DO see is you twisting the facts and putting words into people's mouths. You're starting to look more and more like a US Tabloid "Journalist"; they have more interest in sensationalism than the actual facts and just love to slap exaggerated labels on people. Surely you can state your case without resorting to such spectacle?

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October 22, 2014, 04:54:14 PM
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    Positive. I know who dumped and he did so for a good reason. (So James gets his coins etc.)

    He's long term VeriCoin supporter and has PLENTY left. Smiley

    *Still wish it was Kleineapp... smh

    All is well. :cool:
     

another shady deal that has happened behind closed doors that has hurt the price of vrc, just in order to provide a cheaper entry point for jl777s 100 btc and make him happy b/c hes been stringng this vericoin corecoin deal along like a carrot on a stick....

how many iffy deals is that now??  wiz? moohlah? wheres coinsis and veribank?? they run with the money too?

it looks to some out here that jay jay has just been spamming twitter looking for more sketchy ppl to make deals with..



and lol at kevando selling out to be supernet spokesperson...

and lol at everyone falling for this scheme to make nxt not worthless to the few tht hodl the majority of all the nxt out there.

but seems jl's here to stay and free to trade amoungst himself now that he has cemented his way into the market....

had such high hopes for vericoin....


oh well....



1. There is no "shady" deal. Someone on IRC... who I do NOT HAVE TO name... told me that he dumped into James Buy Wall on purpose so that James can get his coins that he needed to reach 10%. This dude has PLENTY of $VRC left to help when we reach price targets.

2. You have something to say... say it to my face. Melbourne, Florida. I am THE farthest thing from a "scammer" there is. Don't EVER spread BS about me. EVER. If so... come see me in person and handle whatever issues you have with me like a man. I will not tolerate anyone spreading nonsense about VeriCoin, the Devs and especially myself. We're all legit. We're all NOT hiding behind the screen. We're trying to do our best to make this thing happen. If you're in... stay in. If not... gtfo and leave us alone.

3. Wizrig is also NOT a "scammer". Actually quite the opposite. He has been "scammed" by numerous Devs outside of VeriCoin - who simply UP and LEFT him. He invested in VeriCoin with the best intentions and still holds VeriCoin today. Yes... he wasn't the right choice as a "face" for the coin and yes... he has a certain personality that doesn't jibe well with everyone... BUT aside from that... that is THE ONLY negative thing you can say about the guy.

4. Kind of disappointed in you Brooks. You have my actual phone #. Call me. Point blank.

AltCoinUK - I tried to figure things out with you on Twitter but you repeatedly ignored me. Refer to #2.
Barabbas - I don't even know wth you're always talking about.

I don't understand you guys. We have transparent Developers, excellent tech and features, great branding, a solid community - yet you're trying to find ways to undermine everything we do. We're NOT scammers but we're also not PERFECT.

We are fucking trying. So either bail or STEP UP and help out.

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October 22, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
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Personally, I'm pretty disappointed to see that we might not even break 13k after SuperNET has invested his 100BTC. By all means he did the right thing in throwing his buy order (semi)low on the books and letting the ones who decided to fold come to him. I wasn't expecting him to just carelessly fill buy orders all the way up to 20k.

On the same note - I was definitely hoping we'd see some more action than a bounce from 9k up to 12k and then back to 9 again... Maybe on the next 100BTC ;0

Welcome to the club of disappointed bagholders. Now perhaps you can understand why people who bought into this coin at 40k-50k - when Nosker and Effect were making the hype about crypto history, worldwide media events, etc. with the scammer Wizrig - being disappointed here. I got into VRC when the price was 17K, but I still disappointed about the lack of progress and fully sympathize with the mislead investors who believed the promises of the Devs/Wizrig scam-combo around 40-50k.

Having said that, I am not entirely blaming the devs - except that they should never ever associate with the scammer Wizrig and since that at least they could work to make up that scam -, but clearly this is not a good time for alt crypto investment at all, so even if the devs would be the most talented and hard working professionals, probably that wouldn't matter much in this difficult market.

no matter what the devs said, i never liked wizrig.. from the first hangout i've seen him

It says a lot about the devs that they sat at one table with the scammer Wizrig and presented him as a team member when they were talking about making crypto history in the first hangout. That's all right, everyone makes mistakes and lets assume the devs couldn't see through on Wizrig, that's fine we got over it, but which is most concerns me is that the new supreme cheerleader that Jay Jay guy still keep talks in high regard about the crypto-history maker, worldwide VRC party organizer, scammer Wizrig. Really, that's the new VRC community leader who still think Wizrig was beneficial for this coin?

It clearly indicates that Jay Jay, the new vericoin community leader is in the same league as his friend Wizrig is. I saw yesterday that Jay Jay tweeted, that right now the price is low because it is accumulating phase, i.e people are very busy in buying VRC. Scammers would say anything to get 1-2 BTC from uninformed people (they hope from new investors). Right now the mantra is that VRC is in accumulating phase. It does not make sense economically nor logically nor factually, but they still spread the scam to trick people into this stagnating and failing operation. Jay Jay topped his usual BS of "very big things happening behind the closed doors" with a new BS that this is the accumulating phase.

Someone should tell that Jay Jay guy in your new super wonderful forum a) stop spreading BS, it does not do any good for the coin b) if he promoted himself to community leader then act with integrity. One scammer, his friend Wizrig was enough for this operation, we don't need another one.

my gut tells me the devs are not scammers, maybe just naive then or because they have good intentions, they can only see the good in people; how you think of yourself is how you see the world
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I will not tolerate anyone spreading nonsense about VeriCoin, the Devs and especially myself ... gtfo and leave us alone ... Wizrig is also NOT a "scammer".

AltCoinUK - I tried to figure things out with you on Twitter but you repeatedly ignored me. Refer to #2.


If you are unable post in a civil manner then leave this thread. Since you left from here with your vulgar brigade to have the cheerleader party at your wonderful new forums, the conversation is civil, polite and constructive here. Don't bring back your vulgar language, the "gtfo" remarks, lack of civility and your offending posts. All right my boy?

I couldn't care less what you tolerate. In this forum we say what we want to say and we point out facts here. Watch the first hangout and listen what Wizrig said (while the devs presented him as a team member), what he promised he will do for this coin and community, and then you will understand why he is a scammer, why many investors feel completely mislead by what was presented in that hangout. As I said, it would be completely irrelevant, what happened has happened, but when you continue your hype making lies about large background operations, big development activities behind closed doors, accumulating buy ins, then it is quite clear why you are so understanding and supportive with the scammer Wizrig. With this attitude you are not a great leader, so better if you assign yourself a more quiet role like water boy or window cleaning task to serve this coin - but certainly don't provide us with directions here.
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I will not tolerate anyone spreading nonsense about VeriCoin, the Devs and especially myself ... gtfo and leave us alone ... Wizrig is also NOT a "scammer".

AltCoinUK - I tried to figure things out with you on Twitter but you repeatedly ignored me. Refer to #2.


If you are unable post in a civil manner then leave this thread. Since you left from here with your vulgar brigade to have the cheerleader party at your wonderful new forums, the conversation is civil, polite and constructive here. Don't bring back your vulgar language, the "gtfo" remarks, lack of civility and your offending posts. All right my boy?

I couldn't care less what you tolerate. In this forum we say what we want to say and we point out facts here. Watch the first hangout and listen what Wizrig said (while the devs presented him as a team member), what he promised he will do for this coin and community, and then you will understand why he is a scammer, why many investors feel completely mislead by what was presented in that hangout. As I said, it would be completely irrelevant, what happened has happened, but when you continue your hype making lies about large background operations, big development activities behind closed doors, accumulating buy ins, then it is quite clear why you are so understanding and supportive with the scammer Wizrig. With this attitude you are not a great leader, so better if you assign yourself a more quiet role like water boy or window cleaning task to serve this coin - but certainly don't provide us with directions here.



They warned me about your ignorance. It's... almost... poetic. Poetically irritating.

You're conjuring up some weird shit in your peanut sized brain to FUD the coin that you "hold" - which is OBVIOUSLY "brilliant" btw.

Why are we even STILL TALKING about Wizrig??? All he does is HOLD some coin - THAT'S LITERALLY IT. He holds NO "special" position in VeriCoin - he just invested in it.

- Yes Wiz wanted to throw a VeriCoin party in Miami. They had it in NYC instead because... the Devs are located in... New Jersey. (You okay with that?)
- He did want to bring the coin to Hispanic community etc but it was a greater endeavor than he anticipated. (Reasonable enough?)
- He did NOT "scam" anyone. I don't even KNOW what that means. He didn't follow through on some of the things he wanted to do. (That's NOT a scam.)
- He has his own coin now. Why are you STILL going on and on about him? He literally "holds" the coin... the same way that you or I "hold" the coin.

There is nothing going on "behind closed doors" EXCEPT for us attempting to strike up conversations with legitimate people and services that would benefit VeriCoin.
And no... we're not going to make any knee jerk announcements before any deals are done.
*We've made those mistakes before... won't happen again.

As far as the past goes... any type of partnerships that we've attempted to forge with others were done so with THE BEST INTENTIONS for the coin and community.

CoinSis wanted $15000 - but we can work a better deal with SuperNET's solution. (Or possibly some other company.)
And Moolah TOOK US ALL FOR A RIDE! Everyone. You, me... everyone. Including Pat and Doug. We are NOT happy with him/them Alex/Ryan... whatever they are.

So no... I won't tolerate your bullshit or fantastical stories that you love to bring up. This isn't a movie.
This is semi-analogous to a start up business- only there is no "true" hierarchy so it's tough to call it a business or a company.

This is about 3 down-to-Earth Developers who happen to have written some REALLY good code.
Otherwise they're normal dudes and live "normal" lives.

This is also about a community that supports the IDEA of what VeriCoin can do - with the right people and the right partnerships - over the long term.

We're trying to turn this franchise around and people like you... will stop at nothing to tear us down.

I DON'T know if we'll be the next "BitCoin" - but we are damn sure going to give it a try.

And if you're not part of the solution... you're part of the problem.

So get on the team... or gtfo. Really.

*It's easy to show support and pound your chest when you're on top... it's how you react when things don't go as planned that defines your character over the long term.

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I will not tolerate anyone spreading nonsense about VeriCoin, the Devs and especially myself ... gtfo and leave us alone ... Wizrig is also NOT a "scammer".

AltCoinUK - I tried to figure things out with you on Twitter but you repeatedly ignored me. Refer to #2.


If you are unable post in a civil manner then leave this thread. Since you left from here with your vulgar brigade to have the cheerleader party at your wonderful new forums, the conversation is civil, polite and constructive here. Don't bring back your vulgar language, the "gtfo" remarks, lack of civility and your offending posts. All right my boy?

I couldn't care less what you tolerate. In this forum we say what we want to say and we point out facts here. Watch the first hangout and listen what Wizrig said (while the devs presented him as a team member), what he promised he will do for this coin and community, and then you will understand why he is a scammer, why many investors feel completely mislead by what was presented in that hangout. As I said, it would be completely irrelevant, what happened has happened, but when you continue your hype making lies about large background operations, big development activities behind closed doors, accumulating buy ins, then it is quite clear why you are so understanding and supportive with the scammer Wizrig. With this attitude you are not a great leader, so better if you assign yourself a more quiet role like water boy or window cleaning task to serve this coin - but certainly don't provide us with directions here.



Ok, I will ask again.   What are you trying to get out of this?  We all know you are a bag holder like the rest of us but how is what you are constantly going on and on about helping the coin and community?  If you could please just answer this very basic question.  We all would like to know. 
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Totally agree, but hey aren't we just cheerleaders??   Grin
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October 22, 2014, 09:27:05 PM
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did James already began to help VRC? IS there coming anything?
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did James already began to help VRC? IS there coming anything?

Find out all you need to know in the new forums


https://www.vericoinforums.com/

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Totally agree, but hey aren't we just cheerleaders??   Grin

Anybody who supports the coin even the smallest amount and doesn't immediately agree with every criticism from a few select individuals is labelled as a cheerleader. Hell, there have even been a few cases of people criticizing the coin but also disagreeing with one or more points made by those select individuals... and those people were labelled as cheerleaders. So maybe all you have to do is disagree with those who are outspoken against the coin and/or developers. The definition of "cheerleader" in this context is broad and constantly changing.

On the flip side of that, many are just as quick to throw around the "FUDster" accusation.

Both are frequently used as childish jabs intended to get a rise out of people.

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I'm speaking directly to the VeriCoin Community here.

Nothing great is ever done by any one person. It takes a cohesive community - a group effort - to make something like VeriCoin a legitimate success.

You're only a "bag holder" if you sit there holding your nuts - expecting things to MAGICALLY happen that will SOMEHOW get you "rich".

Well that is NOT how life works.
It takes effort. Determination. It takes will power and grit.
It takes belief in the fundamental value of an ideal, the possibilities it brings and the bottom line.

It... takes... PATIENCE.

We're not "cheerleaders". We don't have Pom Poms - we have convictions. We have confidence.

Now you can sit on your ass all day long and cry about how money isn't MAGICALLY falling into your lap...

OR...

You can get off your ass and be a part of something meaningful!

Every SINGLE ONE OF YOU has something positive - something special to bring to the table. You have a talent that is unique to you.

Bring that talent to the table! Utilize whatever you may be able to do - that others may not - to help VeriCoin be the coin we all know it can be. (And should be.)
Draw a picture of Doug. Make a short video. Write a blog. Tell your local 7/11 clerk about VeriCoin. Sing a song about Pat.

I don't care what you do... BUT PLEASE do SOMETHING. ANYTHING - but SIT AROUND AND MOAN online.

The future of how business is done is in the palm of OUR hands. Hindsight is 20/20.

We have foresight on our side... DO NOT let this one slip past you.

I'm not sure everyone realizes the real opportunities they have to make a REAL difference in this world. It's rare yet it's right here.

So you can call me a "bag holder" or a "cheerleader" if you like but I'm making a difference.
I'm motivated and optimistic about the future of VeriCoin.

You should be too. Smiley

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October 22, 2014, 11:44:28 PM
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Otherwise they're normal dudes and live "normal" lives.

I highlight and answer this statement, since I agree that the main asset of the coin is the honest and transparent developer team. Most of us invested into this coin because the transparent, professional, marketable and intelligent development team was quite a unique phenomenon in the crypt scene at the time. Later, a few weeks ago was great to see the devs evaluated James' offer and entered into a partnership with him. Not that I expect Supernet can be successful, quite opposite, I am sure a year time no one will remember what Supernet is (except people who lost money with it), but the willingness of the VRC devs for collaboration is very encouraging in going forward, because I believe soon or later the market, investors, including VCs will see the value in this transparent, marketable and professional team.

Now you see, only that statement was worth to quote from your nonsensical rant - that's how little you bring to the table.

You think the devs write great code and I am not going to debate that with you, because you know nothing about software development (I pointed out here a few times how little the three VRC devs added to the forked source), you don't know what software development is - you are just a delusional Monday morning software quarterback who irrationally believes that a start-up business being developing here.

You and your incompetent team caused a huge disappointment with the VISA card which "project" was hyped for 4 weeks and then we realized it is the lamest idea ever. For many investors that was the final nail in the coffin and sold out their bags.

You delusional cheerleader had been pushing the message for months about the partnership with Moolah, well after every one could see how incompetent that hacked operation was. My lawyer spoke to Moolah after the hack because I had some coins there and when he came back he said they are a bunch of wankers. Then I said here and even on IRC that stay away from Moolah, Moolah is a bunch of wankers, forget the Moolah deal and concentrate on the software development - then I was the fudder again, even Nosker kicked me out from IRC because I was dare to spread FUD about the great Moolah. I did the due diligence about Moolah, the cheerleaders took it emotionally, that what I found out destroys their dream. (I don't expect you know what due diligence is in business partnership even you are, unlike me, an English speaker)

Now, you try "to strike up conversations with legitimate people and services that would benefit VeriCoin", which means the next disaster most likely on its way to vericoin.

Individuals like your friend the scammer Wizrig and yourself with your delusional business plan about being the next Bitcoin do nothing good for the coin - see the price which is 9k after you have been messing up things for months.

As I said better if you take an intellectually less challenging role like be a water boy and just support the devs in progressing with the software.


 
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October 22, 2014, 11:55:51 PM
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Ok, I will ask again.   What are you trying to get out of this?  We all know you are a bag holder like the rest of us but how is what you are constantly going on and on about helping the coin and community?  If you could please just answer this very basic question.  We all would like to know.  

Actually I do lot more than the vocal cheerleaders combined, as I point out problems and suggest solutions.

You remember, I said to stay away from Moolah and its wanker CEO and concentrate on software development instead, then again I was the FUDder and now you can see who Alex Green and what Moolah is.

Similarly, I have been asking here for months that lets put time into the software development instead of talking about delusional mass adoption fantasies and suggested a few areas to progress - then again I was the FUDder as I was pointed out that there isn't enough progress terms of software development. Then James came and proved exactly what I said: the right technology could bring money into any crypto projects. If the VRC devs would listen me instead of being stubborn about their vision and direction, and concentrate on the technology aspect of the project, present a viable development plan like James did, then they could collect the few million $ without James. Again, I am not saying that I support the Supernet idea, all I am saying that it is possible to increase market capitalization with a sensible technology idea (what I had been suggested here for months), just like James was able to collect money.

The cheerleaders bring nothing to the table. Don't get me wrong, I think what for example Scott or Kevondo does is very important for the community, peoples who actually do something are important for any communities, I am talking about cheerleaders like that Jay Jay boy and his scammer friend Wizrig, they are useless and bring nothing to the table.
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but I'm making a difference.


You are not making any differences, you have been doing nothing useful. I guess the reason of that because you don't understand the basics, namely that this is a software project, and therefore in long term only software development can make difference in this business - see James' success with his project or the unsuccessful BRO ICO which would be very different if they would actually have a working software.

So stop the motivational speeches, you are not in a church nor in a community meeting of jobless people where a motivational speech could be useful. You are in a Bitcointalk thread and we came here to support a digital currency and make money from it. The only way to make money if the software is being developing. In this business, "end of the day" (aka Effects) only the software can make a real difference, especially that VRC needs to compete with a well established currency Bitcoin. Your motivational speech is not going to put Vercioin to a more competitive position - only a better software does.

I can only reiterate what I have been saying here for months: once the devs start to get done some meaningful coding then there is a very good chance to succeed. And then the cheerleader brigade can do the hyping if that makes you happy or makes you feel better ... but in this business you can't afford the hard work and actual software development - what the devs have not been doing for long months.

The price is 9k again, so it's time to stop what you have been doing (it is useless anyway) and start supporting your devs to create a better software.
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October 23, 2014, 02:30:09 AM
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Otherwise they're normal dudes and live "normal" lives.

I highlight and answer this statement, since I agree that the main asset of the coin is the honest and transparent developer team. Most of us invested into this coin because the transparent, professional, marketable and intelligent development team was quite a unique phenomenon in the crypt scene at the time. Later, a few weeks ago was great to see the devs evaluated James' offer and entered into a partnership with him. Not that I expect Supernet can be successful, quite opposite, I am sure a year time no one will remember what Supernet is (except people who lost money with it), but the willingness of the VRC devs for collaboration is very encouraging in going forward, because I believe soon or later the market, investors, including VCs will see the value in this transparent, marketable and professional team.

Now you see, only that statement was worth to quote from your nonsensical rant - that's how little you bring to the table.

You think the devs write great code and I am not going to debate that with you, because you know nothing about software development (I pointed out here a few times how little the three VRC devs added to the forked source), you don't know what software development is - you are just a delusional Monday morning software quarterback who irrationally believes that a start-up business being developing here.

You and your incompetent team caused a huge disappointment with the VISA card which "project" was hyped for 4 weeks and then we realized it is the lamest idea ever. For many investors that was the final nail in the coffin and sold out their bags.

You delusional cheerleader had been pushing the message for months about the partnership with Moolah, well after every one could see how incompetent that hacked operation was. My lawyer spoke to Moolah after the hack because I had some coins there and when he came back he said they are a bunch of wankers. Then I said here and even on IRC that stay away from Moolah, Moolah is a bunch of wankers, forget the Moolah deal and concentrate on the software development - then I was the fudder again, even Nosker kicked me out from IRC because I was dare to spread FUD about the great Moolah. I did the due diligence about Moolah, the cheerleaders took it emotionally, that what I found out destroys their dream. (I don't expect you know what due diligence is in business partnership even you are, unlike me, an English speaker)

Now, you try "to strike up conversations with legitimate people and services that would benefit VeriCoin", which means the next disaster most likely on its way to vericoin.

Individuals like your friend the scammer Wizrig and yourself with your delusional business plan about being the next Bitcoin do nothing good for the coin - see the price which is 9k after you have been messing up things for months.

As I said better if you take an intellectually less challenging role like be a water boy and just support the devs in progressing with the software.


If you have all the 'answers' do something constructive for VeriCoin instead of just complaining, or is that all you really want to do?
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October 23, 2014, 02:33:05 AM
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Ok, I will ask again.   What are you trying to get out of this?  We all know you are a bag holder like the rest of us but how is what you are constantly going on and on about helping the coin and community?  If you could please just answer this very basic question.  We all would like to know.  

Actually I do lot more than the vocal cheerleaders combined, as I point out problems and suggest solutions.

You remember, I said to stay away from Moolah and its wanker CEO and concentrate on software development instead, then again I was the FUDder and now you can see who Alex Green and what Moolah is.

Similarly, I have been asking here for months that lets put time into the software development instead of talking about delusional mass adoption fantasies and suggested a few areas to progress - then again I was the FUDder as I was pointed out that there isn't enough progress terms of software development. Then James came and proved exactly what I said: the right technology could bring money into any crypto projects. If the VRC devs would listen me instead of being stubborn about their vision and direction, and concentrate on the technology aspect of the project, present a viable development plan like James did, then they could collect the few million $ without James. Again, I am not saying that I support the Supernet idea, all I am saying that it is possible to increase market capitalization with a sensible technology idea (what I had been suggested here for months), just like James was able to collect money.

The cheerleaders bring nothing to the table. Don't get me wrong, I think what for example Scott or Kevondo does is very important for the community, peoples who actually do something are important for any communities, I am talking about cheerleaders like that Jay Jay boy and his scammer friend Wizrig, they are useless and bring nothing to the table.

It's ironic that the what you do (complaining ('suggesting')) is more important than what Jay Jay does (PR, marketing, QC, Forums, Networking).  Get to work man or you are just wasting your time and ours.  We are busy doing, while you are busy saying.
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