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October 09, 2014, 11:35:56 PM
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It is amazing to me that you can think of those cards as anything with even remote interest for the oeople that are not already experts in cryoto currencies. Simply amazing.

Almost as amazing as to believe that creating the cheerleader's club would have any other effect ghan the one it is having on the price.

I live in perpetual stste of amazement here...

For those of you who don't speak Arrogant Prick, allow me to translate:

I think these cards will be confusing to people who are unfamiliar with crypto currencies.

I also believe that the current price drop is due to the creation of the new forums.

I am perpetually befuddled...

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It is amazing to me that you can think of those cards as anything with even remote interest for the oeople that are not already experts in cryoto currencies. Simply amazing.

Almost as amazing as to believe that creating the cheerleader's club would have any other effect ghan the one it is having on the price.

I live in perpetual stste of amazement here...

Mister barabbas, this cards are not for experts, the goal with this is simple, create easy to share content (in this case a pack of images) about VeriCoin. This images can be shared by the "experts" in crypto to someone that could be curious about vrc, also having more images on the web makes it easier so that when searching "VeriCoin" on google images in time there will be a lot of useful info cards about VRC.  

Except that no one is curious nor search for Vericoin on google images. Why would anyone search? There is still not innovation, no wonder the price is going under 10k again. The mass adoption theme is a fantasy, we have established that fact long time ago here. First you would have to win over the crypto-currency literate user base instead of targeting the mass public, but since Vericoin is no more than one of the 500 BTC/LTC clones no one is interested in this zero innovation coin from the expert user base. That's why I have been pointing out here together with other sensible users for months that some innovation and software development would be required in order to progress. You have to admit that all the lame ideas including the Verileader initiative and the Visa card can take VRC nowhere. The level of the delusion around this coin is quite unbelievable. At the moment when the Visa card announcement came out I said that's the lamest idea ever - here most of you supporters were celebrating, like Kevondo said that the Visa card is historical and will be game changer in the crypto world. Yeah, it was a game changer and historical. It is unbelievable the ideas, concepts, initiatives how unrealistic are. What was the result of your verileader activity in Portugal? Even you have the best intention and you work hard there is zero result, because projects like Verileader, Visa, the mass adoption theme without real innovation and software development just do not make sense.

In the meantime James disappeared too. He came here on the day of his IPO because he needed the support of the transparent VRC team and nothing more. No wonder he donated back the 500k, as he knows that he is going to raise the price nowhere. The FIAT feature has no real value, it is not a useful nor innovative feature - just like we have been saying that for long, and therefore it is not going to help for Supernet.

The VRC developers would have to start developing the software, that's the only way to keep alive the coin.
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So what are the near term (1-2 months) plans now for vrc?  There is something real in that what altcoinUK says, a coins without steady development is doomed. Every second coin is riding the "global mass adoption" -dick right now. Ok there is a roadmap, BUT it takes 3 years to achieve that gloals, vrc will be down to to double digits or worse.

BTW, its not a good idea to abandon this thread completly, because its always the first address where people look and it dosent look good when price is in free fall + BCT-Thread is dead.
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So what are the near term (1-2 months) plans now for vrc?  There is something real in that what altcoinUK says, a coins without steady development is doomed. Every second coin is riding the "global mass adoption" -dick right now. Ok there is a roadmap, BUT it takes 3 years to achieve that gloals, vrc will be down to to double digits or worse.

BTW, its not a good idea to abandon this thread completly, because its always the first address where people look and it dosent look good when price is in free fall + BCT-Thread is dead.

We're working on the code to enable SuperNET features on VRC as well as a secret project James has proposed.

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Did you notice that all the "advantages of using VRC" that you are pointing out are actually "advantages of using BTC", except the stake interest, which is offered by some other 100 altcoins?

Do you realize that your cards and the rest of the "artwork" ain´t even helpful as improvised toilet paper, just because you keep trying to distribute them online?

PROTIP: Print and distribute them to real "regular Joes" and at least they will have some "food for thought" before cleaning their "average" asses with your moronic artwork, assuming they ever run out of toilet paper and  the "artworks" are at hand, of course.

Will you find a real job and stop pretending you have an idea of what marketing is about?

Or at the very least, will you educate yourself and improve your english and marketing skills before attempting again to teach or market anything to english speakers with double digit IQs, AKA "average persons"?

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So what are the near term (1-2 months) plans now for vrc?  There is something real in that what altcoinUK says, a coins without steady development is doomed. Every second coin is riding the "global mass adoption" -dick right now. Ok there is a roadmap, BUT it takes 3 years to achieve that gloals, vrc will be down to to double digits or worse.

BTW, its not a good idea to abandon this thread completly, because its always the first address where people look and it dosent look good when price is in free fall + BCT-Thread is dead.

We're working on the code to enable SuperNET features on VRC as well as a secret project James has proposed.

James having good ideas, but since he has collected 1-2 million US$ already, he won't be able to convince investors again to buy into his ideas. He is talented, but not as talented that he could sell useless things over and over again by asking substantial amount of investment. Once it will be clear that Supernet is as much useless as the +500 LTC/BTC clones that it try to build on, then the Supernet party will be over and Vercoin will be back to square one.

People who supported this coin thought a few months ago that Vericoin will be different than the other 500 BTC/LTC clones, the team, two PhD students and a Microsoft developer will come up with good ideas and develop an innovative software. We thought that such development combined with the transparent image of the team will be a winner. Now, it is clear that (due to lack of time, expertise, dedication or whatever reasons) it is not being developed what we were hoping it would. You are talking about again a secret project, but your secret projects usually spectacular failures - see the historical and world changer Visa card project. It's worth to note that the vocal supporters and other fanboys were so offended here that a few of us questioned the rational of that Visa card idea. And the Supernet-VRC FIAT combo will be as much successful as your FIAT in wallet idea. Just as like the Vericoin wallet FIAT integration is completely useless and no one is interested in that feature that you hoped will change the world, the Supernet FIAT will be similarly unsuccessful.

As your ideas, initiatives, marketing strategy just don't work, perhaps it would be better you would consider executing better ideas than yours, like Barabbas suggestion about a big push for the transparent theme.
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Did you notice that all the "advantages of using VRC" that you are pointing out are actually "advantages of using BTC", except the stake interest, which is offered by some other 100 altcoins?

Do you realize that your cards and the rest of the "artwork" ain´t even helpful as improvised toilet paper, just because you keep trying to distribute them online?

PROTIP: Print and distribute them to real "regular Joes" and at least they will have some "food for thought" before cleaning their "average" asses with your moronic artwork, assuming they ever run out of toilet paper and  the "artworks" are at hand, of course.

Will you find a real job and stop pretending you have an idea of what marketing is about?

Or at the very least, will you educate yourself and improve your english and marketing skills before attempting again to teach or market anything to english speakers with double digit IQs, AKA "average persons"?



The staking feature was the universal hope for altcoin to beat Bitcoin. The only problem with that concept is that staking doesn't make an otherwise useless commodity more valuable. Staking dog excrement does make as much sense as staking a useless altcoin, but the community of the useless altcoin still celebrates, promotes and very proud of the staking feature.

The Vericoin marketing team doesn't care that Bitcoin does what a digital currency supposed to do (and its shortcomings are addressed by infrastructure projects and the +10 billion US$ VC investment just in this year along), and therefore the marketing team present Vericoin as a Bitcoin beater. The marketing team doesn't even bother to check out the basic technicalities such as the high level description of the Bitcoin protocol, and therefore they believe that the faster transaction processing of Vericoin is result in faster business processes from user viewpoint by completely ignoring the green address capability of Bitcoin that allows virtually instant transaction.

And it is absolutely disgraceful that the Vericoin marketing team release a marketing material that states VRC does offer more than Bitcoin. This indirect bashing of Bitcoin not only a complete nonsense but alienate the investors who have sentimental attachment to Bitcoin - 90% of the crypto investors with real money.

Vericoin cheerleaders convinced each other that VRC will change the world, and it's no wonder a delusional marketing team produces delusional marketing materials.
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Do you realize that your cards...

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VeriCoin's best hope is to become the crypto Western Union minus exorbitant fees they charge.

Basically, a coin for poor people and those who routinely wire money oversees. Indian people in USA, for instance, are constantly wiring money back to relatives in India and they use services that charge insane fees. In comes Vericoin.

Make it happen Pat.

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Did you notice that all the "advantages of using VRC" that you are pointing out are actually "advantages of using BTC", except the stake interest, which is offered by some other 100 altcoins?

Do you realize that your cards and the rest of the "artwork" ain´t even helpful as improvised toilet paper, just because you keep trying to distribute them online?

PROTIP: Print and distribute them to real "regular Joes" and at least they will have some "food for thought" before cleaning their "average" asses with your moronic artwork, assuming they ever run out of toilet paper and  the "artworks" are at hand, of course.

Will you find a real job and stop pretending you have an idea of what marketing is about?

Or at the very least, will you educate yourself and improve your english and marketing skills before attempting again to teach or market anything to english speakers with double digit IQs, AKA "average persons"?



The staking feature was the universal hope for altcoin to beat Bitcoin. The only problem with that concept is that staking doesn't make an otherwise useless commodity more valuable. Staking dog excrement does make as much sense as staking a useless altcoin, but the community of the useless altcoin still celebrates, promotes and very proud of the staking feature.

The Vericoin marketing team doesn't care that Bitcoin does what a digital currency supposed to do (and its shortcomings are addressed by infrastructure projects and the +10 billion US$ VC investment just in this year along), and therefore the marketing team present Vericoin as a Bitcoin beater. The marketing team doesn't even bother to check out the basic technicalities such as the high level description of the Bitcoin protocol, and therefore they believe that the faster transaction processing of Vericoin is result in faster business processes from user viewpoint by completely ignoring the green address capability of Bitcoin that allows virtually instant transaction.

And it is absolutely disgraceful that the Vericoin marketing team release a marketing material that states VRC does offer more than Bitcoin. This indirect bashing of Bitcoin not only a complete nonsense but alienate the investors who have sentimental attachment to Bitcoin - 90% of the crypto investors with real money.

Vericoin cheerleaders convinced each other that VRC will change the world, and it's no wonder a delusional marketing team produces delusional marketing materials.

if we use more this will be popular more.

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wow what a cheery thread this has turned into. when prices are up, everyone cheers but when prices drop the knives come out full force. I see a LOT of red down arrows in the altcoin lists so chin up people. Shit happens.

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Did you notice that all the "advantages of using VRC" that you are pointing out are actually "advantages of using BTC", except the stake interest, which is offered by some other 100 altcoins?

Do you realize that your cards and the rest of the "artwork" ain´t even helpful as improvised toilet paper, just because you keep trying to distribute them online?

PROTIP: Print and distribute them to real "regular Joes" and at least they will have some "food for thought" before cleaning their "average" asses with your moronic artwork, assuming they ever run out of toilet paper and  the "artworks" are at hand, of course.

Will you find a real job and stop pretending you have an idea of what marketing is about?

Or at the very least, will you educate yourself and improve your english and marketing skills before attempting again to teach or market anything to english speakers with double digit IQs, AKA "average persons"?




Newbie account talking shit, seen it before.  If you have some better ideas about marketing we are all ears.  Please educate the rest of us.  If you have to attack someone for their English when it's not their primary language then not sure what world you live in since not everyone speaks English as good as yourself.  Again, please submit your ideas and or artwork and we'll take it all into consideration.  Keep up the good work amesterdamer as the rest of us appreciate the time and effort you are putting in.  Thanks again.
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Yeah, I know that's up and running. I think it's a terrible idea. Most people that want to learn about altcoins will come to bitcointalk.org first.

Someone should stick around and chat with the other 98% of crypto coin users Wink

There's really no reason that the two can't co-exists, though [...]

...and you can read about each of those w/o having to wade thru pages of posts related to the others.

TLDR; I think that the official forums are a good idea and ultimately beneficial to VeriCoin. I also think that this thread can continue to serve a useful and necessary function.

Yeah, I can agree with you point 100%. The only problem I have with Vericoinfoums is:
#1. I want to read about all the alts, so I'm still going to spend my time on here anyway.
#2. There are 6 forums on Vericoinforums with some of those forums having 25 sub questions. It's too time consuming for me to peruse through every channel to try and collect all the information about what is going on. News, price fluctuation, upcoming events, cheerleaders, FUDs. Personally I like to take it all in at once, yes even the FUD, because truth be told I think the FUD is very helping in pointing out flaws.

It's cool that everyone put in as much time as they did with developing the forums but I'm 1 person that will stick to BTCtalk.org. Maybe it's a good thing we have people on both Wink
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Who who invested with vericoin and honestly expect riches in a few months? some people seem to think, invest in a altcoin because digital currencies are on the rise and the new thing? apart from ltc btc ftc.
rome was not built overnight nor will this coins potential, but to get people to know  about vericoin or any other coin is by education
be it by flyer's,  word of mouth,  campaigns WVD Radio social media etc.  Just not gonna happen in the 5-6 moths vericoin has been around.

The posts saying the coin would be dead after the theft?
Still here still growing reaching out.

The extreme onslaught of a seriously pissed of individual/group
with a shit storm of (concurrent) FUD, 8 million reasons why?

Vericoin is a long term coin to invest in, and providing altcoins make it through the coming years with the inevitable regulation that follows bitcoin, who knows exactly where it all goes. its perfect use is it can reach out to people with dumb or smart phones and skip the fees of western union and such, pay day loans etc 6000% wonga companies the world does not need.

Its main primary function is you can use it where you can use btc with out owing any.
same with other coins uro cann stx sys bro coins that have a use and or back with a product?

I have faith in digital currencies for all the obvious reasons people mainly shout about. low fees, no middle man, you are your own bank, you have the power, and as max keiser once said the block chain will rule them all.

So please remember a coin is not just for xmas its for life. squeak.

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Did you notice that all the "advantages of using VRC" that you are pointing out are actually "advantages of using BTC", except the stake interest, which is offered by some other 100 altcoins?

Do you realize that your cards and the rest of the "artwork" ain´t even helpful as improvised toilet paper, just because you keep trying to distribute them online?

PROTIP: Print and distribute them to real "regular Joes" and at least they will have some "food for thought" before cleaning their "average" asses with your moronic artwork, assuming they ever run out of toilet paper and  the "artworks" are at hand, of course.

Will you find a real job and stop pretending you have an idea of what marketing is about?

Or at the very least, will you educate yourself and improve your english and marketing skills before attempting again to teach or market anything to english speakers with double digit IQs, AKA "average persons"?



The staking feature was the universal hope for altcoin to beat Bitcoin. The only problem with that concept is that staking doesn't make an otherwise useless commodity more valuable. Staking dog excrement does make as much sense as staking a useless altcoin, but the community of the useless altcoin still celebrates, promotes and very proud of the staking feature.

The Vericoin marketing team doesn't care that Bitcoin does what a digital currency supposed to do (and its shortcomings are addressed by infrastructure projects and the +10 billion US$ VC investment just in this year along), and therefore the marketing team present Vericoin as a Bitcoin beater. The marketing team doesn't even bother to check out the basic technicalities such as the high level description of the Bitcoin protocol, and therefore they believe that the faster transaction processing of Vericoin is result in faster business processes from user viewpoint by completely ignoring the green address capability of Bitcoin that allows virtually instant transaction.

And it is absolutely disgraceful that the Vericoin marketing team release a marketing material that states VRC does offer more than Bitcoin. This indirect bashing of Bitcoin not only a complete nonsense but alienate the investors who have sentimental attachment to Bitcoin - 90% of the crypto investors with real money.

Vericoin cheerleaders convinced each other that VRC will change the world, and it's no wonder a delusional marketing team produces delusional marketing materials.

What is that "marketing team" you are talking about? There's no such thing. Never was.

OK Wizrig, the "yo soy boricua pa que tu lo sepas" guy, tried to be because The Black Hand wanted to manipulate VC through him the way they manipulated BC -with the dull complicity of their devs-. He failed miserably and the Black Hand left. This kid from Amsterdam is just an unemployed graphics enthusiast. That's it... unless you want to count Kewondo and socal as part of marketing. Of this new guy veryviral or whatever. This my friend is and has always been, a hobby of the three guys -Dave doesn't even bother to pretend otherwise, while Doug and Pat sometimes, by omission, do-. A game, nothing else. And James is buying himself a "face" to cover his increasingly more difficult anonimity. There's no "marketing team". There just cheerleaders like scott volunteering their ineptitude to feast in the other few cheerleaders. The project itself is not progressing -nor it will- without the direct implication of James. Not one iota.
James, apparently, is currently eating more than he can chew and has no time nor inclination to continue catering to the cheerleaders and the waiting is simply way too long for VRC to be maintained.

The cards are just the result of this unemployed guy playing with graphics and telling himself stories. Nothing else.
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October 10, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
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barabbas, I never have been impolite to anyone here and you will be the first. Please don't link the next sentence with VeriCoin this is Me as a Person replying to barabbas.

I'm not a kid and I don't live im Amsterdam, I'm from Portugal and a designer for almost 10 years, I've worked in some agencies but yes, currently I'm doing freelance work @home and I'm not working in any agency because the working conditions in Portugal suck, I don't want to work 10 to 12h a day and get paid 600€ to 750€ per month as a designer. Thats why I'm leaving my country and heading to UK at the end of the year. Sorry If I disappoint you because my professional life it's not working well in Portugal... not everyone has a easy life and you should really measure your words before being impolite to me. Having said that I just would like to finish this statement with:

FUCK YOU BARABBAS

(and please don't relate this to VeriCoin, this was the 3 time this guy offended me and enough is enough.)
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October 10, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
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barabbas, I never have been impolite to anyone here and you will be the first. Please don't link the next sentence with VeriCoin this is Me as a Person replying to barabbas.

I'm not a kid and I don't live im Amsterdam, I'm from Portugal and a designer for almost 10 years, I've worked in some agencies but yes, currently I'm doing freelance work @home and I'm not working in any agency because the working conditions in Portugal suck, I don't want to work 10 to 12h a day and get paid 600€ to 750€ per month as a designer. Thats why I'm leaving my country and heading to UK at the end of the year. Sorry If I disappoint you because my professional life it's not working well in Portugal... not everyone has a easy life and you should really measure your words before being impolite to me. Having said that I just would like to finish this statement with:

FUCK YOU BARABBAS

(and please don't relate this to VeriCoin, this was the 3 time this guy offended me and enough is enough.)

Oh I'm sorry for offending you....  what was the offense, that I placed you in Amsterdam instead of somewhere in Portugal (your handle is "amesterdamer", go figure), or that I stated, again, the FACT that you cannot get arrested -sorry, find a job, I mean-?

Now, considering the "quality" of your work -good designers also work and are very well paid currently in Portugal- the not so good ones had it quite more difficult to find ANY employment. In Portugal and anywhere else. Like I said, considering the "quality" of the work you post here, it is no wonder you cannot get arrested. You won't in England either. Or anywhere else. Because it is not just poor, it's terrible. Elementary school-terrible.

I believe you feel quite offended because I stated that FACT, not because I placed you in Amsterdam OR I stated the additional FACT that you are unemployed and begging.

Oh and I will borrow from the inimitable Jon Stewart to counter your nice words:
 
Go Fuck Yourself, Amesterdamer
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