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Author Topic: [ANN]CureCoin - CURECOIN TEAM HAS TAKEN RANK 1 ON FOLDING@HOME!!!  (Read 669149 times)
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January 25, 2017, 11:01:11 AM
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OK, so since I am different kind of nerd and not a card playing nerd...

How does one relieve one's self of these cards?
So, no one knows what to do with these things?  Huh

Maybe this could help you? https://sogassets.com/dex/
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January 25, 2017, 03:08:35 PM
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Maybe this could help you? https://sogassets.com/dex/
No, that's what got me to post here.
SOGassets says I have cards X, Y, and Z; however, Counterwallet shows no such thing (hence the need for going to SOGassets to see the cards to begin with)

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January 25, 2017, 06:49:33 PM
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 I swapped all of my 1070s back to Folding (for the first time ever I think) yesterday - then my bloody net went out for about 5 hours early this morning.

 Which means I lost less than if I had NOT swapped them, but hurt on the fast return bonus for quite a few blocks.

 Oh well, hopefully tomorrow I'll start seeing my REAL numbers!



Out of altruism or profitability?


 Profitability - but I suspect the surge will reoccur at some point in the not REAL far distant future, and the current level is still overall a tossup with other options.

 I can't AFFORD altruism.
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January 26, 2017, 06:50:45 AM
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 I swapped all of my 1070s back to Folding (for the first time ever I think) yesterday - then my bloody net went out for about 5 hours early this morning.

 Which means I lost less than if I had NOT swapped them, but hurt on the fast return bonus for quite a few blocks.

 Oh well, hopefully tomorrow I'll start seeing my REAL numbers!



Out of altruism or profitability?



 I can't AFFORD altruism.


Same here, sadly.
But ZEC is still more profitable than merged folding ATM, so hence my confusion.
I guess you have more faith in CURE in the long run?

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January 26, 2017, 03:33:37 PM
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He has pascal cards though not AMD. Merged folding is DEFINITELY more profitable than ZEC or ETH mining on nVidia cards.

600k PPD ~= 22 CURE and 1750 FLDC = 0.0033BTC / day / card
450Sol/s ~= 0.002 BTC / day / card

...and that's being generous on Sol rate and conservative on PPD.

I have AMD cards and I'm folding. It's not quite as profitable as ZEC but it's in the same ballpark. I get roughly 750k PPD vs. 1050Sol/s I would get mining ZEC. So about 0.0041 BTC/day for merge folding vs. 0.0046 BTC/day for ZEC mining. ZEC used to be significantly more profitable but only during the first month or so.

It's close enough...and if/when CURE 2.0 and SigmaX eventually get released I expect a rise. The low volume could be a problem for a large scale operation but for the average guy at home like myself with only a rig or two it's totally worth it (so that's a good thing for us). If/when the volume ever picks up it would be good for larger operations too and therefore the project as a whole (as that's the end goal and the whole idea of this coin).

Go, CURE! Cheesy
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January 26, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
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He has pascal cards though not AMD. Merged folding is DEFINITELY more profitable than ZEC or ETH mining on nVidia cards.

600k PPD ~= 22 CURE and 1750 FLDC = 0.0033BTC / day / card
450Sol/s ~= 0.002 BTC / day / card

...and that's being generous on Sol rate and conservative on PPD.


 Actually, for the average of my cards, it's a LOT optimistic on the sols (370-390 for most of my cards even with optimised but still reliable overclocks, a couple of the high-clock Gigabytes hit a hair over 400) even without factoring in the rather high NiceHash fees, and a little optimistic on the PPD (most work units 560-600 kPPD range) as I don't push my 1070s all that hard on folding due to the higher power consumption and temperatures.

 My current figuring with CURE at 6000 satoshi (yeah, it dropped back under that right now but will probably spike again) and the usual $1.30-$1.40 a day they're getting out of NiceHash and NOT figuring FLDC (the bloody fees getting that stuff OUT of the Counterparty crap eat a LOT of that profitability) make CURE pretty much a tossup with ZEC right now for my 1070 rigs.

 Add in the FLDC and they're definitely more profitable with CURE at 5000 (which it's VERY close to even after the fallback today).


 My small group of Maxwell cards (3 x 960, 2 x 950) are still doing other stuff - even ETH is more profitable on them.


 Unless VEGA takes a huge step forward on folding vs anything previous in the AMD line, I'll probably never fold on AMD cards - they're almost more profitable to do GridCoin via MooWrapper (among other BOINC options) with than to Fold with.


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January 26, 2017, 08:23:17 PM
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I really hope Vega is competitive in folding as I'm holding out for those before I buy any new cards. Worst case scenario the prices will come down on pascal and polaris cards.

From what I have been reading from rumours/leaks the Vega 10 should be higher than the GTX 1080 in compute power/TFLOPS and maybe around Titan X Pascal levels.
But who knows if that will be the case, or if that compute power will translate flop for flop into folding/hash power.

I had half a mind to get some 1070s but I just don't want to be pigeonholed into folding or the fewer algos where nvidia makes sense. I'd rather go with with AMD and have more flexibility with different algos. Then again the memory-hard algos like ZEC and ETH can't seem to take advantage of the huge 4096-bit memory bus of HBM (Fiji) and are bottlenecked by the lower mem clock, so I'm not holding my breath either.
We'll see anyway. I think they were targeting a May-ish release date.
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January 26, 2017, 08:36:17 PM
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I could see one of those cancer awareness groups like the big ones for breast c. endorsing and using Curecoin for some kind of fund raising reward.  Blockchain may become mainstream if there is enough positive political change, which is long overdue.  

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January 26, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
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I had half a mind to get some 1070s but I just don't want to be pigeonholed into folding or the fewer algos where nvidia makes sense...
There's almost no situation (folding or mining) where a 1070>180. If you go for NV, got 1080. Wink

If you have to ask why, you wouldn`t understand my answer.
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January 26, 2017, 11:04:30 PM
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1080 is greater, sure, but it also costs $800 CAD vs. $550 CAD for a 1070. Pretty sure there's almost no situation where it's 45% faster.
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January 26, 2017, 11:38:31 PM
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1080 is greater, sure, but it also costs $800 CAD vs. $550 CAD for a 1070. Pretty sure there's almost no situation where it's 45% faster.

When you do the math of what it does vs what it costs to do it, it makes the 1080 cheaper (in the long run) every time. "Faster" isn't all that matters, think watts per unit. Wink

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January 27, 2017, 12:17:29 AM
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It might make sense for someone who has the money up front and plans on keeping them for a long time, or if you were building many many rigs and wanted to get more PPD per slot to save on motherboards/HDDs/CPUs, etc... but in my case it doesn't make sense at all. Actually even in that case even just getting one 1060 instead of a 1080 or two 1070s instead of two 1080s would be enough to pay for the rest of the rig. They are too cost prohibitive.

Power is included in my rent here anyway so I'm not too concerned about that. Even if I were it's Canada and most of the time it's cold and the more heat my hardware gives off the less the baseboards are running anyway.

I just want bang for buck for my hardware. 1080s are one of the worst things I could buy for that metric...but I'm not buying right now anyway. If I were to build a folding rig right now I would want 1060s, 1070s, or possibly (used) Fury cards. For any other type of rig I would want 470s/480s or more used Hawaii cards (or again maybe Furys).
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January 27, 2017, 12:41:23 PM
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He has pascal cards though not AMD. Merged folding is DEFINITELY more profitable than ZEC or ETH mining on nVidia cards.

600k PPD ~= 22 CURE and 1750 FLDC = 0.0033BTC / day / card
450Sol/s ~= 0.002 BTC / day / card

...and that's being generous on Sol rate and conservative on PPD.

I have AMD cards and I'm folding. It's not quite as profitable as ZEC but it's in the same ballpark. I get roughly 750k PPD vs. 1050Sol/s I would get mining ZEC. So about 0.0041 BTC/day for merge folding vs. 0.0046 BTC/day for ZEC mining. ZEC used to be significantly more profitable but only during the first month or so.

It's close enough...and if/when CURE 2.0 and SigmaX eventually get released I expect a rise. The low volume could be a problem for a large scale operation but for the average guy at home like myself with only a rig or two it's totally worth it (so that's a good thing for us). If/when the volume ever picks up it would be good for larger operations too and therefore the project as a whole (as that's the end goal and the whole idea of this coin).

Go, CURE! Cheesy

Thanks for clarification, I just switched back to folding.
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January 27, 2017, 02:14:02 PM
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@bardacuda
I'm too lazy to explain to you the math behind why 1060s aren't even an option for a full rig, or how ROI works, or why (at the time of this posting) there isn't a 10xx card under $1,000p/card that beats a 1080 (even with free electric).
I wish you the best in whatever your choice is.

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January 27, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
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Lol that's fine I know how it works and I have done the math. It would take almost two years for a 1080 system to pull ahead of a 1070 system in profitability with a budget of $2600 up front. That's assuming you keep dumping all of the coins you earn (and the price and difficulty of the coins remains either constant or directly proportional), and use the money to keep adding more cards until you get 6 of them in each rig. Of course there will be new Vega and Volta cards by then which means price and price/performance ratios of the cards will change (you would have bought all 6 1070s in May before Vega gets released but, you wouldn't get your 5th 1080 until end of July and your 6th until end of August...assuming you had your initial $2600 worth of hardware [roughly the cost in $CAD after tax/shipping of a barebones mining rig with 3x 1070s or 2x 1080s initially] in your hands today), so you have to make a lot of assumptions to even come up with numbers that far out.

I'm glad you're happy with your 1080 and you feel it was a good decision. In my case if I were to buy them and THEN do the math I would end up with buyer's remorse.
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January 27, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
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Lol that's fine I know how it works and I have done the math. It would take almost two years for a 1080 system to pull ahead of a 1070 system in profitability with a budget of $2600 up front...In my case if I were to buy them and THEN do the math I would end up with buyer's remorse.

Your math is way off and I'm not sure how greater ROI would give you "buyer's remorse", but I wish you all the happiness one can muster in your endeavors.

If you have to ask why, you wouldn`t understand my answer.
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January 27, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
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I wish you all the happiness one can muster in your endeavors.

And I, you Cheesy Ignorance is bliss after all Wink
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January 27, 2017, 10:25:04 PM
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...Ignorance is bliss after all Wink
Glad to know you'll stay blissful.

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January 28, 2017, 12:17:22 AM
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Sick burn!
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January 28, 2017, 01:56:49 AM
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Anybody ever get this when you try to use counterwallet.io?

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