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April 15, 2015, 09:52:46 PM
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Cure cancer? You mean create Big Pharma drugs. This is worse than mining pointless algorithms. Terrible.
Yes i agree that big Pharma is bad. They create tons of medicines such as ecstasy and Ritalin that hurt people more then help. However, things like antibodies and other actual disease related medicines are indeed an important part of the world and you cannot possible think that all medicines created by pharma companies are harmful. Things like ebola, cancer, malaria, ext... REQUIRE medicine and that is what folding is trying to help, not create the next anti depressant drug.

It would be nice if medicine was free and not controlled by big companies, but hell, it would be nice if other great things like college education is free. But its not. We live in a world that is controlled by big companies, this is a sad fact. However, things like FAH and the results that are created from FAH are available to any researcher who wishes to use the results. Yes its probably going to be a pharma company, but the results are available for anyone. So some smaller pharma firm that has better ethics then the big ones could actually create the same medicines and charge less.

The results from FAH are good either way you slice it, i respectfully disagree with your statement but would love to continue this conversation should you respond again Cheesy

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April 16, 2015, 06:09:06 PM
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Hello guys,
our team is now fourth in the statistics.

Congratulations to all participants.

Keep folding
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April 16, 2015, 06:58:39 PM
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Cure cancer? You mean create Big Pharma drugs. This is worse than mining pointless algorithms. Terrible.

create big companies drugs which cure cancer ? if it will be affordable, fine by me.

question about Staking curecoins, is there suppose to be staking icon like most POS coins have ?
also 'getstakinginfo' rpc command doesn't seem to exist
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not hashing, folding and curing (check FLDC merged-folding! reuse good GPUs)
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April 17, 2015, 05:08:57 AM
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As long as big pharm actually develops CURES then that is OK, but I think it is much more profitable business model to develop TREATMENT DRUGS that patients must stay on indefinitely.  Does big pharm even want cures?  I think in this day and age that CURES will only be found in the realm of public research institutions not private, alas most governments looking to cut taxes to appease the idiots put sciences on the chopping block first.
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April 17, 2015, 05:49:42 AM
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As long as big pharm actually develops CURES then that is OK, but I think it is much more profitable business model to develop TREATMENT DRUGS that patients must stay on indefinitely.  Does big pharm even want cures?  I think in this day and age that CURES will only be found in the realm of public research institutions not private, alas most governments looking to cut taxes to appease the idiots put sciences on the chopping block first.
Thats the good thing about FAH, is it is created by the community and available to anyone with proper credentials. And i do agree that treating is more profitable, however, that particular topic starts going down the road of conspiracy theories relating to medical corruption which is very hard to comment on when one is not a medical expert. Calling out government corruption is easier to do because its something most of us in this space understand and can provably verify that its a better system to trust a blockchain then the fed reserve, but saying that they havent created a cure for cancer because treatment is more profitable would require an expert opinion in the medical field for me to get on board with that theory.

Unless you have some good sources/documentation that you can provide so i can read up on Cheesy

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April 18, 2015, 04:23:50 AM
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Cure cancer? You mean create Big Pharma drugs. This is worse than mining pointless algorithms. Terrible.

Your Big Pharma skepticism maybe somewhat warranted, but it's not just about cancer (or even medical research).

The laws are set up to ensure companies who purchase patents based on university research must "use it or lose it"
(although arguably that can be difficult to enforce).

Recent Fields of study for FAH Include:

Non-Medical Fields Studied:

Bio-Fuels and Custom Enzymes for industrial processes like making bio-degradable plastics
Bio-Energy (cellulase enzymes with long lifetime at high temperature)
Exo-Biology research like the Miller–Urey experiment recreated in-silico
    uncovering 600 previously unknown organic molecules.
General polypeptide Folding Machinery (we might be driving cars made out of proteins one day))
Computer Science - Managing and securing the worlds largest supercomputer (outside of Bitcoin)

Recent Diseases Studied:

Alzheimer’s Disease (AD)
Huntington’s Disease (HD)
Cancer (breast cancer, ovarian cancer, prostate cancer)
Chagas Disease
Malaria
HIV
Osteogenesis Imperfecta (OI)
Diabetes Type II (on your Chrome browser)
Antibiotic Efficacy and development
Parkinson’s Disease (PD)
Viral diseases
    Pandemic Influenza
    Bird Flu
    Ebola (listed for the Android Folding App)

ALL OF THE ABOVE REDUCE THE RELIANCE ON ANIMAL TESTING

Also consider that certificate based blockchain technology makes CureCoin adaptable to many other DCN projects like:

  • earthquake prediction
  • weather modeling
  • mineral resource location prediction from satellite data
  • astrophysics
  • even distributed crash test simulation and mechanical tolerance FEA

If nothing else, consider this a way to share the wealth of Big Pharma,
and a way to actually steer and fund new research NOT covered by government grants.
This opens up a feedback loop for innovation:
https://www.curecoin.net/inside-curecoin/dev-blog/72-endometriosis-pilot-study-description

Some other links of interest:

Full index of over 600 active FAH projects:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/new/psummary.html

Distributed (56) Work Assignment Servers in a FAH Worldwide Consortium:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/pybeta/serverstat.html


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April 18, 2015, 05:59:54 AM
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Also note that the current effectiveness of a treatment is not a measure of its importance. If it can alleviate symptoms and suffering it is valuable. But if a large group with power blocks that treatment from being accessible or a viable option, that has nothing to do with medicine or the research informing it. That is a separate issue.

As it stands, all I have to do is leave my computer on (I do this anyway) and consume about the same amount of electricity a lightbulb does in order to fuel research. Why the hell not? Might be different if electricity was more scarce around here, .10,.15, .20 cents/kwh might be pushing it.

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April 18, 2015, 08:52:16 AM
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Also note that the current effectiveness of a treatment is not a measure of its importance.

Agreed ... the discoveries can affect outcomes 20 years from today.

On the cost of electricity, it's important to consider the initial goal of science coins like Curecoin is just to pay for the electricity bills (based on the most efficient system - which will be somewhere between $0.05-$0.07 per coin) ... but the average overall cost per coin for the average user can be in the $0.15 per coin in power alone when using older CPU/GPU hardware and repeatedly timed-out work units. Thats not including maintenance or ROI on potentially high-end equipment

So its not a trivial amount when you get serious about it ... the market is slow to catch on to these facts however ... research isn't free.
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April 19, 2015, 07:53:12 PM
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Hi guys,

Are we ready for curecoin 2.0? launch in two weeks or is there a new plan?

Any screenshot or code to show us

Thanks

Here's a rough schedule:

April 26: VanityGen address app
April 26: Test code for certificate authority verification and message signing
April 28: Blockchain database code
May 10: Final certificate format (and software to generate/sign/verify certificates)
May 17: GUI and full daemon (beta, may nor may not have multisig working)
May 17: Final whitepaper
If multisig doesn't make it into the May 17 beta, it'll be out a week or two later at most.

And then whenever we and the community think the evolving beta is stable and workable, we'll launch the final blockchain.

A large portion of the 2.0 source base is/will be rewritten code based on existing currencies. It's all 'from scratch,' but most of it doesn't have anything special about it.
Things that are special:
-Curecoin v2 Addressing (Merkle Trees)
-Blockchain format (similar in spirit to 'cryptonite xcn' (not to be confused with Monero/etc.))
-Certificate format (Outlined before on forums)
-Multisig addresses

You can look at some of the fun code for addressing and Merkle Tree generation:
http://www.curecoinmirror.com/CC2.0Code.zip

Fold Proteins, earn cryptos! CureCoin.
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April 20, 2015, 01:29:18 AM
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question about Staking curecoins, is there suppose to be staking icon like most POS coins have ?
also 'getstakinginfo' rpc command doesn't seem to exist
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The staking instructions are in the knowledgebase pages. There is no staking button per-say, but the wallet will start staking automatically when unlocked:

Follow the instructions at the bottom of this page and you should be good:
    https://www.curecoin.net/knowledge-base/13-knowledge-base/mining-curecoin/38-what-are-the-proof-of-stake-details 
BTW - you don't need the single quotes around your command for it to work.
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April 23, 2015, 12:50:18 PM
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-.... (Merkle Trees)

The Greek finance minister will not allow CC in Greece ... With that name of a tree  Grin

Sorry, couldn't resist ...
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April 23, 2015, 12:52:20 PM
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-.... (Merkle Trees)

The Greek finance minister will not allow CC in Greece ... With that name of a tree  Grin

Sorry, couldn't resist ...

hehe but merkle trees are in all coins, including bitcoin ;-)

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May 10, 2015, 08:01:54 PM
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Happy one year CureCoin!!!   Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Go CureCoin!
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May 16, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
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@Vorksholk Hi i am new to CureCoin i have the software running on my computer how do i go about joining team
#224497?? do i just add it to the team part of the software or is there something else i have to do? thanks for your help. Smiley

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May 16, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
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@Vorksholk Hi i am new to CureCoin i have the software running on my computer how do i go about joining team
#224497?? do i just add it to the team part of the software or is there something else i have to do? thanks for your help. Smiley

Hey, shot you a PM.

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May 17, 2015, 03:44:56 AM
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@Vorksholk Hi i am new to CureCoin i have the software running on my computer how do i go about joining team
#224497?? do i just add it to the team part of the software or is there something else i have to do? thanks for your help. Smiley

Hey, shot you a PM.

All good thanks for your time and help.

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May 17, 2015, 03:49:29 AM
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Quick update, still playing around a bit with the skeleton of 2.0 before we have a live beta, I'll be posting bits and pieces throughout the next week or so.

The first morsel of code is the address generation code, which has been displayed earlier. After some modifications, a tad bit of optimization, and the introduction of multithreading, here's the almost-finished product, wrapped up in a JAR file you can run with the command line. The Merkle Tree generation scheme is outlined here: http://1.curecoinmirror.com/Curecoin%20Signatures%20Compressed.pdf

You can access the compiled program to benchmark address generation performance here: http://1.curecoinmirror.com/AddressGen.zip
Normal Curecoin addresses will be between 14 and 18 layers. Authority addresses will be above 25 layers. The AddressGen program loves eating memory. Start it as java -Xmx500M -jar AddressGen.jar to reduce memory usage.

And the source code here: http://1.curecoinmirror.com/AddressGenSource.zip

Generating a Curecoin address takes a fair share of time given the nature of Merkle Trees--ALL Lamport signatures must be generated when the address is created.

For anyone interested in generating vanity addresses, here's a simple VanityGen application: http://1.curecoinmirror.com/VanityGen.zip
Source code to the vanitygen app is pretty boring. If you really want it, extract the jar file as a zip, the source code is zipped in there.

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May 19, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
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Four Cancer Charities Accused of Fraud

http://www.wsj.com/articles/four-cancer-charities-accused-of-fraud-1432063345
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May 19, 2015, 10:38:29 PM
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this is sad that people cheat for money, and that it is related to disease like cancer.
humans can be awful and too evil  Angry

* i feel that this is not the case with F@H and curecoin and foldingcoin

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May 20, 2015, 06:06:37 PM
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Absolutely disgusting Sad Always do due-diligence when choosing charities! Even with the regulations for income reporting, some still get away with this stuff.

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