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Author Topic: [ANN]CureCoin - CURECOIN TEAM HAS TAKEN RANK 1 ON FOLDING@HOME!!!  (Read 668209 times)
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December 17, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
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...Yet why do you need to be so arrogant in your posts???
It comes from the core of my being.  Tongue

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December 18, 2016, 07:52:12 AM
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GTX 1070s - they're more cost-efficient.
 Or Titan X Pascals - the ultimate folders regular people can get.
Rate: 6 1080s = 6 1070s PLUS 1 980Ti (or even 1 TitanX)
Energy: 7 cards vs 6 to save ~30 watts

Past a hobby rig, whatever "savings" you have are lost in more risers and PSUs.
I'll keep the good stuff, thanks. Wink


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

Much more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark, which only tests specific aspects of folding one at a time.

Depending on WHICH benchmark aspect you look at, the Nano should be directly competative to the GTX 1070 on performance - but in real folding work it's quite a bit worse.


 Also, the COST of those 1080s is what I was talking about - energy efficiency is going to be pretty much a tossup either way, but paying more than 50% more for the cards for perhaps a 20% PPD improvement is NOT cost effective.


 Try finding a 1080 in an ITX form factor short card like the Gigabyte (I build 3 card rigs, but due to limitations of available motherboards I need a short card to allow for decent cooling of all 3 cards).
 I supposed I COULD use 2x 1080 and a single 1070 though, so that point is a strawman argument to a degree.


 The Titan X Pascal is also less cost-effective, though it earns enough more in bonus PPD it might be better on a PPD/watt basis.
 It is NOT cost effective on a PPD/$ basis even vs the 1080, much less the 1070.


 980 ti aren't worth buying any more, unless you can get a used one fairly cheap.
 Dunno why you included THAT in your comparison - that IS a strawman argument.



 I don't do riser rigs - have had too many issues with the bloody things back in the days I DID use them.

 2 x 3 card no riser rigs aren't much more expensive IF at all than a single 6 x riser rig - you can use smaller much less expensive PS (cost per watt on a PS is pretty much even for quality Gold rated supplies 'till you hit the 1000 watt ballpark, at which point it starts climbing pretty fast), you DO take a hit on the HD/SSD/Pen Drive + RAM + CPU doubling up, but you might make that up on the LOW COST very common motherboards for 3 slots vs the rather HIGH price very limited selection of motherboards that can handle 6, and you DEFINITELY make up some on not needing risers.

 It's also a lot easier to get a 3 card rig to work in the first place, though once you get a rig to work at all it's not hard to "clone" it if you're running Ubuntu/Xubuntu - would be trivial if Ubuntu/XUbuntu used LILO instead of that PITA Grub bootloader with it's usage of that stupid majorly irritating UID garbage instead of standard drive designations.

 Non-riser machines also tend to be more reliable, and if you have a riser rig go down you lose ALL of the production from it vs. half if you have 2 x non-riser machines and one goes down.



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December 18, 2016, 08:45:29 AM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

Much more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark, which only tests specific aspects of folding one at a time...
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GTX 1070   2,067
GTX 1080   1,986

OK, I might concede some points after that if the overclockings were similar/comparable.
Come on, +500 on the 1070 and +300 on the 1080, really?
 Huh


Edit: I was wrong about 1 thing, though, the chart was Maxwell on the Titan

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December 18, 2016, 10:02:57 AM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

Much more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark, which only tests specific aspects of folding one at a time...
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GTX 1070   2,067
GTX 1080   1,986

OK, I might concede some points after that if the overclockings were similar/comparable.
Come on, +500 on the 1070 and +300 on the 1080, really?
 Huh


Edit: I was wrong about 1 thing, though, the chart was Maxwell on the Titan

 Is the 1080 capable of being overclocked as much as the 1070?

 I do concede some of those overclocks (on ALL of the cards) are fairly extreme - but that doesn't negate my point about "real data from real folding".

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December 18, 2016, 10:04:56 AM
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On a completely different subject - the CureCoin forum is no longer accessable with Chrome, *apparently* due to it's use of an outdated encryption protocal (probably RC4 that was CRACKED a while back).

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December 18, 2016, 03:14:34 PM
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Is the 1080 capable of being overclocked as much as the 1070?
 I do concede some of those overclocks (on ALL of the cards) are fairly extreme - but that doesn't negate my point about "real data from real folding".

OK, here's the problem with your chart of randomness: It provides no definable intel to compare even like items and it raises many questions.

Not the least of these questions is: Where did mbmumford get that magical GTX1070?
11/21/2016   P9676   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1531   7544   1920   0:00:07   729,806   R1, C71, G183   Windows 10 x64   [0x18]   5,879.00   8.1
And how did it so vastly outperform his overclock?
10/31/2016   P13201   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1886   7604   1920   0:01:38   686,432   R17, C4, G0   Windows 10 x64   [0x21]   7,242.20   10.6

Is it the same unit with 2 separate runs?


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December 18, 2016, 04:02:30 PM
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It is very likely that our team will be ranked #2 right on Christmas Eve!  Cheesy
Hope Santa will bring some good Champagne! Cheesy
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December 18, 2016, 08:43:23 PM
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Has anyone tried to mix NVidia and AMD GPUs on the same Linux Folding Rig?
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December 18, 2016, 10:18:50 PM
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Is the 1080 capable of being overclocked as much as the 1070?
 I do concede some of those overclocks (on ALL of the cards) are fairly extreme - but that doesn't negate my point about "real data from real folding".

OK, here's the problem with your chart of randomness: It provides no definable intel to compare even like items and it raises many questions.

Not the least of these questions is: Where did mbmumford get that magical GTX1070?
11/21/2016   P9676   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1531   7544   1920   0:00:07   729,806   R1, C71, G183   Windows 10 x64   [0x18]   5,879.00   8.1
And how did it so vastly outperform his overclock?
10/31/2016   P13201   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1886   7604   1920   0:01:38   686,432   R17, C4, G0   Windows 10 x64   [0x21]   7,242.20   10.6

Is it the same unit with 2 separate runs?



 Different unit types have different speeds - very old news there.

 P9676 unit vs a P13210 unit in the examples you post.

 G183 bonus vs G0 bonus is also a major factor. Higher numbers on that indicate a lot higher "early return bonus" which is what higher-end NVidia cards thrive on.

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December 18, 2016, 10:22:09 PM
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Has anyone tried to mix NVidia and AMD GPUs on the same Linux Folding Rig?

 When I set up a new rig, it keeps grabbing my GPU from the A10 for folding on - it SHOULD work but I tend to avoid running AMD stuff on folding 'cause it's a lot less efficient.
 If AMD ever gets a HIGH END RX series card out that might change - the RX 480 is pretty good for a mid-range card on a PPD/watt and PPD/$ basis.



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December 18, 2016, 11:29:07 PM
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 P9676 unit vs a P13210 unit in the examples you post.

 G183 bonus vs G0 bonus is also a major factor. Higher numbers on that indicate a lot higher "early return bonus" which is what higher-end NVidia cards thrive on.

Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.  Undecided

If you have to ask why, you wouldn`t understand my answer.
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December 18, 2016, 11:59:05 PM
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- it SHOULD work but I tend to avoid running AMD stuff on folding 'cause it's a lot less efficient.

I actually already have 4 R9-280 per rig and I'd like to plug one NVIDIA high end card in the remaining PCIE slot on the MB...
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December 19, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
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It is very likely that our team will be ranked #2 right on Christmas Eve!  Cheesy
Hope Santa will bring some good Champagne! Cheesy

I had originally replied to this in good cheer (a pic of Santa holding a glass), but it seems someone has an issue with the idea of a fictional character bringing you a glass of bubbly  Undecided

If you have to ask why, you wouldn`t understand my answer.
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December 20, 2016, 09:34:00 PM
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Hackers Have Stolen Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoin -- Using Only Phone Numbers

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/12/20/hackers-have-stolen-millions-of-dollars-in-bitcoin-using-only-phone-numbers/#756913c622db
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December 20, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
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Hackers Have Stolen Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoin -- Using Only Phone Numbers

If he's been "in Bitcoin" since there were "4 computers on the network" and he didn't secure his coins and his keys, then he deserves to lose it.

https://youtu.be/F12lpqnug-0

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December 21, 2016, 07:45:01 AM
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 P9676 unit vs a P13210 unit in the examples you post.

 G183 bonus vs G0 bonus is also a major factor. Higher numbers on that indicate a lot higher "early return bonus" which is what higher-end NVidia cards thrive on.

Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.  Undecided

 No, it's more accurate because it includes REAL mining data, abet the very precision of the date might overwhelm most.

 There IS a listing that shows "summary of PPD per card type". Perhaps that's what you're looking for?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#


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December 21, 2016, 02:56:31 PM
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Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.  Undecided
No, it's more accurate because it includes REAL mining data, abet the very precision of the date might overwhelm most.
 There IS a listing that shows "summary of PPD per card type". Perhaps that's what you're looking for?
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No, even a 10 yr old can sort. Again, you entirely miss the point..
Your "REAL mining data" is GTX1070s where nearly 50% are overclocked by 100-164MHz more than any of the GTX1080s (comparing apples to bananas).
Until 49% of the GTX1080s on your list are overclocked to 2162-2228MHz, they aren't being pushed as far as the GTX1070s; so, again, you're just rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.

If you have to ask why, you wouldn`t understand my answer.
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December 21, 2016, 04:25:11 PM
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Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.  Undecided
No, it's more accurate because it includes REAL mining data, abet the very precision of the date might overwhelm most.
 There IS a listing that shows "summary of PPD per card type". Perhaps that's what you're looking for?
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No, even a 10 yr old can sort. Again, you entirely miss the point..
Your "REAL mining data" is GTX1070s where nearly 50% are overclocked by 100-164MHz more than any of the GTX1080s (comparing apples to bananas).
Until 49% of the GTX1080s on your list are overclocked to 2162-2228MHz, they aren't being pushed as far as the GTX1070s; so, again, you're just rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.

still trying this coin ?  This coin is a scam

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December 21, 2016, 05:16:15 PM
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still trying this coin ?  This coin is a scam
What is the exact "scam" that you think exists from a bonus coin that is given for what is otherwise a volunteer project? Like every other coin (including BTC), it is worth what the community around it decides it's worth; no more and no less.

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December 21, 2016, 11:23:52 PM
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Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.  Undecided
No, it's more accurate because it includes REAL mining data, abet the very precision of the date might overwhelm most.
 There IS a listing that shows "summary of PPD per card type". Perhaps that's what you're looking for?
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No, even a 10 yr old can sort. Again, you entirely miss the point..
Your "REAL mining data" is GTX1070s where nearly 50% are overclocked by 100-164MHz more than any of the GTX1080s (comparing apples to bananas).
Until 49% of the GTX1080s on your list are overclocked to 2162-2228MHz, they aren't being pushed as far as the GTX1070s; so, again, you're just rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries.


 You still haven't answered my question about *CAN 1080s be overclocked as high*.

 If they can't overclock as high as the 1070s, then insisting on same clocks is a strawman argument.

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