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Author Topic: [ANN]CureCoin - CURECOIN TEAM HAS TAKEN RANK 1 ON FOLDING@HOME!!!  (Read 668207 times)
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February 18, 2016, 08:38:59 AM
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Thanks assistresearch.

I see that gridcoin has a lot of protein folding BOINC projects listed in their whitelist:
GPUGRID: Full-atom molecular simulations of proteins.
Poem@Home: Models protein folding using Anfinsen's dogma.
FIND@Home: docking simulations on malaria proteins

How does Folding@Home differ from these?

Folding@Home is a more mature project, its been running for over 15 years. It leads the field in developing new methods of simulation. It has the most reliable/useful software client, and more published research than all the projects you mentioned combined.

Basically everything used in the world of protein folding DCN's was primarily developed because of the Folding@home project.

It was a collaboration between F@H and ATi over 10 years ago that first looked at the possibilty of usings gpu's to do work that had always previously been done on a single core cpu.
It was F@H that developed the systems to use multicore cpus
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February 19, 2016, 11:21:39 PM
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Can someone ask https://www.worldcoinindex.com/ to change the market cap

its completly wrong their is only +/-5m coins out there
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February 20, 2016, 07:00:19 AM
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Can someone ask https://www.worldcoinindex.com/ to change the market cap

its completly wrong their is only +/-5m coins out there

The problem is due to the pre-mine that is allocated for folding payouts, this will only be fixed after cc2.0 launches.
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February 20, 2016, 08:41:48 AM
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Thanks assistresearch.

I see that gridcoin has a lot of protein folding BOINC projects listed in their whitelist:
GPUGRID: Full-atom molecular simulations of proteins.
Poem@Home: Models protein folding using Anfinsen's dogma.
FIND@Home: docking simulations on malaria proteins

How does Folding@Home differ from these?

Folding@Home is a more mature project, its been running for over 15 years. It leads the field in developing new methods of simulation. It has the most reliable/useful software client, and more published research than all the projects you mentioned combined.

Basically everything used in the world of protein folding DCN's was primarily developed because of the Folding@home project.

It was a collaboration between F@H and ATi over 10 years ago that first looked at the possibilty of usings gpu's to do work that had always previously been done on a single core cpu.
It was F@H that developed the systems to use multicore cpus


Very good points Wilding2004 ... Folding@Home and Rosetta@home are often referred to as "complementary", however on a sheer level of computational research power, Folding@Home overshadows all BOINC projects combined (including the non-medical ones) in terms of PFLOPS by nearly 2.4x today (it has been over 4x within the last 18 months). So that in part determines the number of computations represented by each coin - if that helps. Some projects like GPUGRID are great, but have been known to occasionally run out of work, but that doesn't make their research any less interesting. I would say if you want to throw some power at some of those, it only helps the overall cause. I do it too - but coin-wise, I'm biased to CURE - I do buy GRID opportunistically just to stay diversified like assistresearch says.
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February 20, 2016, 09:06:57 AM
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Thanks assistresearch.

I see that gridcoin has a lot of protein folding BOINC projects listed in their whitelist:
GPUGRID: Full-atom molecular simulations of proteins.
Poem@Home: Models protein folding using Anfinsen's dogma.
FIND@Home: docking simulations on malaria proteins

How does Folding@Home differ from these?

Folding@Home is a more mature project, its been running for over 15 years. It leads the field in developing new methods of simulation. It has the most reliable/useful software client, and more published research than all the projects you mentioned combined.

Basically everything used in the world of protein folding DCN's was primarily developed because of the Folding@home project.

It was a collaboration between F@H and ATi over 10 years ago that first looked at the possibilty of usings gpu's to do work that had always previously been done on a single core cpu.
It was F@H that developed the systems to use multicore cpus


Very good points Wilding2004 ... Folding@Home and Rosetta@home are often referred to as "complementary", however on a sheer level of computational research power, Folding@Home overshadows all BOINC projects combined (including the non-medical ones) in terms of PFLOPS by nearly 2.4x today (it has been over 4x within the last 18 months). So that in part determines the number of computations represented by each coin - if that helps. Some projects like GPUGRID are great, but have been known to occasionally run out of work, but that doesn't make their research any less interesting. I would say if you want to throw some power at some of those, it only helps the overall cause. I do it too - but coin-wise, I'm biased to CURE - I do buy GRID opportunistically just to stay diversified like assistresearch says.

Agreed.

Most of the protein simulation DCN's are doing similar science, but sometimes the smallest difference can be significant. For example Rosetta@home is primarily concerned with determining the final folded state of a protein, whereas Folding@home simulates the stages prior to the final state in order to understand the role of "mis-folding" in disease.
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February 20, 2016, 04:39:35 PM
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Does anyone have any idea why Cure withdrawals and deposits are temporarily disabled on Poloniex?
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February 20, 2016, 06:27:49 PM
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Does anyone have any idea why Cure withdrawals and deposits are temporarily disabled on Poloniex?
Some strange problems...

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February 21, 2016, 04:02:11 AM
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I had the same thing happen to me. Been waiting about 20 hours for confirmation and 9 hours for a response from support.

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February 21, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
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how that exchange price raise but no news?


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February 22, 2016, 07:20:14 PM
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IMO, the reason for the recent move up of Curecoin is the progress shown in this article: "Quantum Computing With Ordinary CMOS Transistors" shown at http://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/computing/hardware/qubits-quantum-computing-with-run-off-the-mill-cmos-transistors.  Since quantum computing could be coming sooner rather than later, and our devs at Curecoin are working on quantum computing resistant crypto, more people are buying Curecoin.
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February 28, 2016, 07:27:51 PM
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I really like the concept of this coin.  Are there any other similar projects?  GridCoin seems like one.

Are there any catalysts on the horizon for a big price rise?
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February 28, 2016, 10:35:26 PM
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I really like the concept of this coin.  Are there any other similar projects?  GridCoin seems like one.

Are there any catalysts on the horizon for a big price rise?

The eventual release of CC2.0 could trigger a rise in price but how big remains to be seen.
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February 28, 2016, 11:46:15 PM
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What will be the biggest changes in 2.0?

BTW, what creates demand for this coin?
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February 28, 2016, 11:59:22 PM
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this coin could have really been a top 10 coin. The development is snail paced.

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February 29, 2016, 08:34:49 AM
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What will be the biggest changes in 2.0?

BTW, what creates demand for this coin?
I don't understand how CC2 will work
did Stanford or other scientific researcher/university even agree to be a CA/issue curecoins ?
how is the testing going?
there is sometimes talks about CC2 and then weeks of silence. i can understand the development can take a very long time
what is wrong with current model and coin (besides not getting security updates lately, and premine which folders community currently trust)
will exchanges accept CC2 ?

No DCN has agreed to be a CA yet; the initial 2.0 release will be us signing certificates for publicly-verifiable stats pulled directly from the DCNs. As the project gains momentum and Curecoin-related computation accounts for a higher and higher amount of their computational power, the hope is they will take over as CAs.

Testnet is going great! There's a beta a few posts up with binaries to try out, and we just added PoS.

The current, 1.0 coin has a premine that we payout from, and doesn't offer anything interesting (in regards to the technology itself) that sets Curecoin apart from any other cryptocurrency. We believe the features in 2.0 (Quantum-computer-resistant signatures, a ledger that grows in size with the number of addresses in active use rather than the number of transactions on the network (as in, if the number of users stays constant, and they all use the same number of addresses as they did earlier, the network doesn't take additional storage to run), and a jigsaw-stacking blockchain to prevent forking will interest people beyond the main goal of incentivising computational research. Smiley

As much as possible, 2.0 will adhere to the exact same RPC calls that 1.0 does, to make it easier for exchanges to trade it.

To summarize the main points of difference, removal of pre-mine for folding payouts and removal of sha-256 mining component in exchange for a certificate based model for coin generation. Quantum computer resistance, reduction in block chain size and forking prevention. Also the possible inclusion of other DCN's in addition to Folding@home. There's probably some other points not in this post but they aren't all that hard to find in the previous 10 pages or so.

Unfortunately currently there is not a lot creating demand for this coin, it is accepted by coinpayments.net but it hardly makes sense to purchase btc to trade to curecoin to pay for something using coinpayments. I did make a post a few pages back about demand which I will quote some of below.

"Something that has been discussed in the past is the possibility of DCN's (decentralized computing networks) providing buy pressure to encourage more users to contribute computing time. CC2.0 is certainly a step in the direction of making this idea more plausible though in reality it seems unlikely that stanford would pay anything for something they already get for free. I personally am in favor of the idea that DCN's pay some small amount in the form of buy pressure for curecoin in order to encourage miners away from wasteful pow and towards their own DCN, if the DCN could get the same results as they would hiring or running expensive supercomputers for less money by supporting curecoin it seems like a win-win to me"

Otherwise the only real buy pressure comes from speculators or those inclined to purchase on a philanthropic basis to encourage more contribution to Folding@Home.
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March 03, 2016, 10:55:06 PM
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Otherwise the only real buy pressure comes from speculators or those inclined to purchase on a philanthropic basis to encourage more contribution to Folding@Home.


Looking at the historical price of this coin, it's relatively stable.  There is no new and significant functionality or utility to look forward to in the future so buying on speculation of a price rise doesn't make sense.  "Miners" (folders?) must be constantly dumping to pay the bills so the price should be on a steady decline, but it isn't.  Is philanthropy really the explanation for this?
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March 04, 2016, 12:18:31 PM
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Otherwise the only real buy pressure comes from speculators or those inclined to purchase on a philanthropic basis to encourage more contribution to Folding@Home.


Looking at the historical price of this coin, it's relatively stable.  There is no new and significant functionality or utility to look forward to in the future so buying on speculation of a price rise doesn't make sense.  "Miners" (folders?) must be constantly dumping to pay the bills so the price should be on a steady decline, but it isn't.  Is philanthropy really the explanation for this?

I think you kind of answer your own question here, if folders were constantly dumping then price would be in steady decline. However it seems most folders are involved philanthropically and simply hold their coins. However I would consider some of the features slated for the cc2.0 as significant in terms of functionality, if you consider what is the function of curecoin? Its function at least in part is to replace wasteful POW mining with DCN research in the most decentralized manner possible, in terms of this there certainly are significant features coming.
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March 08, 2016, 01:45:41 AM
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where are we on CC 2.0? Is this update ever coming out?
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March 09, 2016, 03:23:50 PM
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where are we on CC 2.0? Is this update ever coming out?

This project is a wasted opportunity. The only real use for POW mining and this coin is nowhere.

That is a joke.

You'd be better starting another coin same principle with a team of devs behind it not just a couple of people that probably work on it a couple of hours every 2 weeks in spare time.


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March 11, 2016, 02:23:06 AM
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where are we on CC 2.0? Is this update ever coming out?
This project is a wasted opportunity. The only real use for POW mining and this coin is nowhere.

That is a joke.

You'd be better starting another coin same principle with a team of devs behind it not just a couple of people that probably work on it a couple of hours every 2 weeks in spare time.

Keep in mind during CureCoin's initial seed funding (late 2013/early 2014), bitcoin peaked at $1150 USD. Then, over the course of a year, bitcoin's valuation tumbled to below $180 USD.

That's an over 80% drop in the value of the initially investment funds in CureCoin. At the time, there was an outcry over the 10% dev fund required to make the coin viable (over which you were a vocal opponent I believe). Based on community complaints, the dev funds were reduced to 3% which were still disputed as "profiting from charity" by some at the time.

So that's part of the reason why things move more like molasses right now. You can't hire additional developers away from paying projects until CURE is valued at least at a minimum break-even point for folding. That would add honest market liquidity.

As a side-note, Ethereum missed several release dates on it's way to Frontier (despite being funded - now with over $18,000,000 USD). And even today, exhibits occasional mining instability and user friendliness issues.

There should be some movement regarding your concerns over the next month. I’m confident Vorksholk will be able to share an update soon.
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