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March 15, 2012, 09:21:47 PM
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Best scam ever!

It will only be "best" if Matthew, after letting us know the magazine won't get published but money was spent on initial development, allowed us to request a refund of 49% of what we paid.
...and then tells us his name is actually Tom Williams.  Cheesy

On topic:  This isn't a scam.
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March 15, 2012, 10:12:19 PM
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Let me just say, if the magazine is a scam, it's Bitcoin's biggest, most well orchestrated, most elaborate, most expensive and least efficient scam ever, for which the scammers go in the red just to pull it off on the community for the overall gain of negative profits, a dismantled incubator organization with 50+ members, the reputations of some of Bitcoin's most well known contributors, and my personal well-being.  Roll Eyes

Also, (o)(o) <-- tits so that I don't have to gtfo

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March 16, 2012, 01:40:03 AM
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Also, (o)(o) <-- tits so that I don't have to gtfo

I saw that as  Shocked eyes, so... yeah... I fail.

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March 16, 2012, 02:03:37 AM
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Oh ye of little faith.



Great job, Matthew! Now that's a Bitcoin Magazine cover.

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March 16, 2012, 09:44:33 PM
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Given the fast pace of the Crypto-Currency landscape, I can see most of the information in this first issue being completely outdated by the time it arrives.   Undecided

Haha. God I hope you're not serious.

You're probably right, it's not coming is it?  Embarrassed
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March 16, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
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Given the fast pace of the Crypto-Currency landscape, I can see most of the information in this first issue being completely outdated by the time it arrives.   Undecided

Haha. God I hope you're not serious.

You're probably right, it's not coming is it?  Embarrassed

If you didn't provide an email for the digital copy or a proper physical address for the printed copy, it might not. Otherwise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGyh9nDG1sQ

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March 16, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
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why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
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March 16, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
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why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.

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March 16, 2012, 09:58:10 PM
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why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.
When are you going to start etching the plates?

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March 16, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
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Just finish it already. Angry

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March 16, 2012, 10:06:10 PM
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why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.

sure, I just don't understand how it was "going to print" like 2 months ago and now it's not ready. I can see a printing hold up but since the digital version is not out it's obviously not a print problem, it's a content issue. It's beyond me how it can go from "hey we are ready to go to print next week" to "OMG there's so much wrong in this magazine it will take OVER TWO MONTHS TO FIX!"
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March 16, 2012, 10:06:56 PM
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why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.

sure, I just don't understand how it was "going to print" like 2 months ago and now it's not ready. I can see a printing hold up but since the digital version is not out it's obviously not a print problem, it's a content issue. It's beyond me how it can go from "hey we are ready to go to print next week" to "OMG there's so much wrong in this magazine it will take OVER TWO MONTHS TO FIX!"
You've never experienced the publishing biz.

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March 16, 2012, 10:16:58 PM
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why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.

sure, I just don't understand how it was "going to print" like 2 months ago and now it's not ready. I can see a printing hold up but since the digital version is not out it's obviously not a print problem, it's a content issue. It's beyond me how it can go from "hey we are ready to go to print next week" to "OMG there's so much wrong in this magazine it will take OVER TWO MONTHS TO FIX!"
You've never experienced the publishing biz.

So did the things that it not ready made just spontaneously appear, or did Matthew continuously lie to us about the state of the magazine's progress?
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March 16, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
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So did the things that it not ready made just spontaneously appear, or did Matthew continuously lie to us about the state of the magazine's progress?

I'd say I'm sufficiently guilty of being naive and being unable to see into the future, nothing more. This is already been addressed and a good majority of the effort and time spent on the magazine at this moment is involved in building the working team/system to create quality issues monthly, moreso than just pumping out a quick first issue solely to avoid forum members from claiming it's a scamRoll Eyes

why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.

sure, I just don't understand how it was "going to print" like 2 months ago and now it's not ready. I can see a printing hold up but since the digital version is not out it's obviously not a print problem, it's a content issue. It's beyond me how it can go from "hey we are ready to go to print next week" to "OMG there's so much wrong in this magazine it will take OVER TWO MONTHS TO FIX!"
You've never experienced the publishing biz.
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Try this on for size:

A designer designs an entire article's layout and imagework only to find that the printer says that it "won't look right" and has to be done again. Does that take 2 months to fix? No. But what happens when the process of redesigning that article, the contents of it need to be updated and now the shape of the article changes as well? Does that take 2 months to fix? No. But let's say that when the shapes have been updated and everything has been changed and now a significant amount of time has passed between graphics designer, writer, and layout designer's not answering each other's emails in a timely manner, we get to a problem of how the revisions should be tracked and what system to use to pinpoint errors. Okay, well that doesn't take 2 months either. But what if the organization you're moving these standards on has 12 members that must all have meetings on issues at a time of day (all located internationally) that they can all be available? Okay, well that doesn't take 2 months either, but let's say that while having these meetings new issues of a legal, moral, quality, professional, marketing, or design nature come up that cause the original ideas that spawned the original articles and designs to change. This would mean that the entire process would need to be redone, and that doesn't take 2 months either, but let's say that in redoing this process, more, better ideas are thrown into the mix as more professionals join the team to replace those less aware of standards? Well this wouldn't necessarily take 2 months either.


Except when you apply it to the amount of articles, images, designs, revisions, strategies that are actually in the works, and then yes- it mostly certainly does take 2 months.

Thanks for reading.

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March 16, 2012, 10:20:42 PM
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So did the things that it not ready made just spontaneously appear, or did Matthew continuously lie to us about the state of the magazine's progress?

I'd say I'm sufficiently guilty of being naive, nothing more.

why isn't the digital one even out, it's a SCAM!
For those of you who actually want to know the answer to this,

The printed copy is made out of the digital copy, so when we say "the magazine isn't done yet", we're talking about the digital copy.

sure, I just don't understand how it was "going to print" like 2 months ago and now it's not ready. I can see a printing hold up but since the digital version is not out it's obviously not a print problem, it's a content issue. It's beyond me how it can go from "hey we are ready to go to print next week" to "OMG there's so much wrong in this magazine it will take OVER TWO MONTHS TO FIX!"
You've never experienced the publishing biz.
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Try this on for size:

A designer designs an entire article's layout and imagework only to find that the printer says that it "won't look right" and has to be done again. Does that take 2 months to fix? No. But what happens when the process of redesigning that article, the contents of it need to be updated and now the shape of the article changes as well? Does that take 2 months to fix? No. But let's say that when the shapes have been updated and everything has been changed and now a significant amount of time has passed between graphics designer, writer, and layout designer's not answering each other's emails in a timely manner, we get to a problem of how the revisions should be tracked and what system to use to pinpoint errors. Okay, well that doesn't take 2 months either. But what if the organization you're moving these standards on has 12 members that must all have meetings on issues at a time of day (all located internationally) that they can all be available? Okay, well that doesn't take 2 months either, but let's say that while having these meetings new issues of a legal, moral, quality, professional, marketing, or design nature come up that cause the original ideas that spawned the original articles and designs to change. This would mean that the entire process would need to be redone, and that doesn't take 2 months either, but let's say that in redoing this process, more, better ideas are thrown into the mix as more professionals join the team to replace those less aware of standards? Well this wouldn't necessarily take 2 months either.


Except when you apply it to the amount of articles, images, designs, revisions, strategies that are actually in the works, and then yes- it mostly certainly does take 2 months.

Thanks for reading.

Thank you, good post. I never really thought it was a scam, just couldn't understand the hold up. Thanks again.
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March 16, 2012, 11:52:58 PM
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Try this on for size:

A designer designs an entire article's layout and imagework only to find that the printer says that it "won't look right" and has to be done again. Does that take 2 months to fix? No. But what happens when the process of redesigning that article, the contents of it need to be updated and now the shape of the article changes as well? Does that take 2 months to fix? No. But let's say that when the shapes have been updated and everything has been changed and now a significant amount of time has passed between graphics designer, writer, and layout designer's not answering each other's emails in a timely manner, we get to a problem of how the revisions should be tracked and what system to use to pinpoint errors. Okay, well that doesn't take 2 months either. But what if the organization you're moving these standards on has 12 members that must all have meetings on issues at a time of day (all located internationally) that they can all be available? Okay, well that doesn't take 2 months either, but let's say that while having these meetings new issues of a legal, moral, quality, professional, marketing, or design nature come up that cause the original ideas that spawned the original articles and designs to change. This would mean that the entire process would need to be redone, and that doesn't take 2 months either, but let's say that in redoing this process, more, better ideas are thrown into the mix as more professionals join the team to replace those less aware of standards? Well this wouldn't necessarily take 2 months either.


Except when you apply it to the amount of articles, images, designs, revisions, strategies that are actually in the works, and then yes- it mostly certainly does take 2 months.

Thanks for reading.

Sounds like quite the experience! Good luck, maybe if Bitcoin really takes off someday all of these first copies could be worth something Cheesy If I like the first copy I'm going to buy a duplicate just for that purpose.

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March 17, 2012, 06:56:14 AM
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Buttcoin Magazine will be published before this is.
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March 17, 2012, 07:09:29 AM
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I still hope Anonymous is on the cover.

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March 17, 2012, 08:01:48 AM
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Buttcoin Magazine will be published before this is.
I would gladly subscribe.

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March 17, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
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Why have you taken money for it already then, when there is not product yet?

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