Phinnaeus Gage
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April 11, 2012, 07:18:58 AM |
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I think Bitcoin needs a comic book more than a magazine.
The Cryptographic Adventures of Matthew and Atlas! Too long! May I suggest...wait for it... BaNNed? ~The Albino Twin Son of Cackling Bear~ |
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Dansker
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April 11, 2012, 04:06:58 PM |
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I think Bitcoin needs a comic book more than a magazine.
Isn't this whole thread enough of a comedy? FARCE INCLUDED! |
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April 11, 2012, 04:09:17 PM |
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RELEASE!
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April 11, 2012, 04:14:02 PM |
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RELEASE!
Let's organize a demo, fly to UK and demand the release of the magazine issue.  |
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April 12, 2012, 06:00:45 PM |
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RELEASE!
Let's organize a demo, fly to UK and demand the release of the magazine issue. What!? Hang on! I thought some customers already received their issues in the mail!? Dammed, I paid for that just after reading that they did some week(s?) ago! |
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April 12, 2012, 06:14:39 PM |
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RELEASE!
Let's organize a demo, fly to UK and demand the release of the magazine issue. What!? Hang on! I thought some customers already received their issues in the mail!? Dammed, I paid for that just after reading that they did some week(s?) ago! They were full of shit. Sorry. |
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April 13, 2012, 12:51:08 AM |
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If it takes much longer that first issue will have cost y'all a hundred bux.  |
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April 13, 2012, 02:17:37 AM |
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What do you have left to do? I ask because for years I managed to put out all these publications on time every 2 weeks, and every month even while juggling all my labs and assignments, my epic drinking at the SUB bar every couple of days and sold the ads. I did all three at the same time for longer than I want to admit and made token money http://discorder.ca/discorder-magazine/http://ubyssey.ca/http://exclaim.ca/ A book for Vice Multiple other books and double issues, and some bullshit advertising graphic design writing/print shitwork. It was terribad would not do it again, or recommend anybody attempt to publish their own actual printed magazine or newspaper. I would stay up 2 days at a time to make deadline because if I didn't, printers would refuse to print and delay a week, we would lose all our advertisers and probably be sued. Emergency last minute copy cuts, art directors fucking up everything because they've also been up for 2 days and down to the wire dpi changes, advertising no shows, shitty mac software breaking and I had to run through the SUB to steal somebody's macbook to finish it, distribution guy's fucking up delivery constantly, paying out overtime at the printers for being a minute late (yes, a minute), so much bullshit. The hell doesn't end when you send it to print. That's just where the hell peaks and you get to argue with the printers over screwed up copy, fucked up graphics, ad misplacement and sometimes even total page misplacement. Or they promised you a special color rate and magically it disappears once you show up ready to go and the price is now double. Printing is like 60% of the hell. Just push out digital copies on clickbank, kindle, wherever the fuck else people buy ebooks and magazines and make your own site to sell it. Trust me. Crowdsource other people to print out welfare anarchist kinkos copies and just drop them at Chapters/Borders (are they still alive?), cafe's and wherever. I could also write a wall of text lament on all the print distribution problems you'll run into like them fucking up absolutely everything or deciding to no show when it comes time to publish. To get magazines into stores they have to be there on time everytime. They will keep all the money or simply send them back if you don't do it 100% correctly and with consistency. Online edition, these problems no longer exist. |
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April 13, 2012, 02:51:22 AM |
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I wonder how it must feel like, to be a part of your team, Matthæus?
It's okay, be brave. Come on over and ask me out.  How about you finish your magazine instead? Let me worry about our magazine, why don't you worry about your e-zine?  ?? |
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April 13, 2012, 03:03:59 AM |
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That sounds like a lot of fun experiences! Thank you for sharing. I am sure we'll have our fair share of fun stories to tell later on down the road. We've spent the majority of the time so far building a dependable system, building a solid editorial board, dependable and talented writers, professional illustrators and designers, and making sure that everything we do will represent Bitcoin in the most professional light. At this moment we could produce future issues at a sustainable rate of 2 per-month if we really wanted to, but I would never let that happen. Quality over quantity. Many of the problems you have mentioned have been a part of the initial delays (especially people being late for deadlines), but I believe those problems are behind us at this point. |
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April 13, 2012, 03:14:58 AM |
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Awesome! I like how you're running this operation. I still can't wait for my few copies of the first issue though |
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April 13, 2012, 03:26:31 AM |
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I refrain from swearing liberally but I must say: this magazine is going to be fucking awesome.
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April 13, 2012, 06:20:55 AM |
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Let me worry about our magazine, why don't you worry about your e-zine?
Why don't you get off bitcointalk.org and finish the damn magazine already???It's been finished for a while now, they're just printing it. |
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Phinnaeus Gage
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April 13, 2012, 12:48:35 PM |
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That sounds like a lot of fun experiences! Thank you for sharing. I am sure we'll have our fair share of fun stories to tell later on down the road. We've spent the majority of the time so far building a dependable system, building a solid editorial board, dependable and talented writers, professional illustrators and designers, and making sure that everything we do will represent Bitcoin in the most professional light. At this moment we could produce future issues at a sustainable rate of 2 per-month if we really wanted to, but I would never let that happen. Quality over quantity. Many of the problems you have mentioned have been a part of the initial delays (especially people being late for deadlines), but I believe those problems are behind us at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but zer0, a seasoned publisher, just issued issues outlining a myriad of ongoing pitfalls associated with issuing magazine issues. Are you saying, Matthew, that the system you and your team have in place won't encounter the same difficulties as established published meet daily? ~Bruno~ |
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April 13, 2012, 01:38:42 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but zer0, a seasoned publisher, just issued issues outlining a myriad of ongoing pitfalls associated with issuing magazine issues. Are you saying, Matthew, that the system you and your team have in place won't encounter the same difficulties as established published meet daily?
~Bruno~
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April 13, 2012, 02:23:13 PM |
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That sounds like a lot of fun experiences! Thank you for sharing. I am sure we'll have our fair share of fun stories to tell later on down the road. We've spent the majority of the time so far building a dependable system, building a solid editorial board, dependable and talented writers, professional illustrators and designers, and making sure that everything we do will represent Bitcoin in the most professional light. At this moment we could produce future issues at a sustainable rate of 2 per-month if we really wanted to, but I would never let that happen. Quality over quantity. Many of the problems you have mentioned have been a part of the initial delays (especially people being late for deadlines), but I believe those problems are behind us at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but zer0, a seasoned publisher, just issued issues outlining a myriad of ongoing pitfalls associated with issuing magazine issues. Are you saying, Matthew, that the system you and your team have in place won't encounter the same difficulties as established published meet daily? ~Bruno~ I think that's why it's taking so long as he told us over and over again ... To prevent such issues in the future I might be the only patient person in this forum. Thanks Matthew for trying to do this as professionally as possible. |
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April 13, 2012, 02:39:34 PM |
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What's the estimated date of arrival of the 1st issue of the print magazine in my mailbox in the US? May 31st? June 30th? September 30th? Or can you not make an estimate and the 1st issue may not be complete until 2013 or never?
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You can't win if you don't play. But you can't play if you lose all your chips. First I found bitcoin (BTC). Then I found something better, Monero (XMR). See GetMonero.org
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Dansker
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April 13, 2012, 03:44:21 PM |
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U DONE GOOFED!
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April 13, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
Last edit: April 13, 2012, 06:58:58 PM by zer0 |
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U DONE GOOFED!
CONSEQUENCES will never be the same I like the idea of a bitcoin mag. Problem is even Time magazine has been reduced to near pamphlet size and is still losing money. Newspapers aren't making money and cram ads on virtually every page almost on top of each other. Should also be noted Vice magazine has scaled back publishing to concentrate on VBS TV and other projects. Publishing periodicals is doomed, unless it's some sort of corporate trade magazine with guaranteed business subscribers. 2600 magazine sold more issues the first month of releasing it to Kindle then they did in a year of publishing hardcopy. The *only* reason they have a physical copy is because of censorship laws back when Phrack was constantly raided/shut down by the Feds. Somehow printed media is covered under free speech laws whereas digital copies aren't. If your magazine won't be pushing the edge no point in printing it. I also don't understand why you need Wired-esque extremely quality paper and publishing. A hackeresque mag like 2600 with full color cover and black and white everything else should be good enough. Vice Magazine originally was black and white with CMYK newspaper color until they could gather more advertisers to go full glossy, and they strategically dropped their free issues in areas advertisers want people to pick it up like hipster clothing stores, cafe's, bars/clubs ect. You couldn't go to a borders and get Vice it was too risky to sell. Remember nobody buys magazines anymore. Even National Geographic is hurting. People go to Chapters/Barnes & Knoble and just leaf through them and put them back on the shelf unless there's really something in there you need, like amazing code to build something awesome or unique copy you can't find anywhere else. Everything in the Bitcoin mag so far can be found with googling. Interviews are great, but won't sell. I would run this as an innovative site updated as much as possible, and mass print free B&W copies with a color cover using ad revenue or crowdsource people to do it and drop them wherever. YMMV of course. Maybe the first couple of issues will be a smash but I don't see anybody picking them up after that unless content is wildly diversified, and there's awesome amazing anonymity how-to's and inciteful anarchist mini manifestos to get people to respond. You could also try the 2600 method, advertising is free as long as you subscribe. Then every month you have guaranteed subscribers. Having guaranteed subscribers list is where the bulk of the business model comes from, with that you can get funding and a slew of other benefits. Protip: If your country offers grants for unique publications I would go after them too. Canada you can $25k/month funding for nearly anything as long as there's some sort of Canadian content in there. Not that I want to kill your project just am playing the old man that is at the deserted gas station warning the new people that there's boogeymen up the road Digital would be so much easier, cheaper, less stressful and sustainable. Cut out all the middlemen just upload your finished copy and watch it sell away, offer a print on demand if ppl want it. Your site could also do online casino and sports betting ads something you could get extradited and arrested for if you have some in the print version and ship it to US stores. |
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Dansker
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April 13, 2012, 07:05:40 PM |
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I actually wish VICE would sell me print magazines.
I wrote to them and asked, they never replied, so I guess they only do online stuff now.
Print magazines are something you can have lying around your house/workplace It allows you to show visitors what you are interested in in a cool way. You can't do that with digital.
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