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January 26, 2012, 12:14:09 PM
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Any chance to decrease the costs of printed edition+international shipment?

For now, I'll buy the digital edition, but I am really a fan of normal paper books and magazines/newspapers and rarely read more than 10 pages on a pc/e-book reader/etc. because it isn't as comforrtable.
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January 26, 2012, 12:18:42 PM
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Any chance to decrease the costs of printed edition+international shipment?
Order in bulk. Smiley

I sent an email to the address found at the ordering page and I asked what kind of postage discount you get for ordering multiple copies and the discount is very significant at least if you order like 10 copies. But it has to be done with email, the default pricing system gives you a static postage fee regardless of the amount of copies.

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January 26, 2012, 12:44:15 PM
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Any chance to decrease the costs of printed edition+international shipment?
Order in bulk. Smiley

I sent an email to the address found at the ordering page and I asked what kind of postage discount you get for ordering multiple copies and the discount is very significant at least if you order like 10 copies. But it has to be done with email, the default pricing system gives you a static postage fee regardless of the amount of copies.

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January 26, 2012, 12:58:38 PM
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I am not a fan of DRM:(

+1 hope i get a nice pdf in my e-mail along with the print version, just ordered

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January 26, 2012, 01:17:03 PM
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Regarding DRM--- The unofficial direction we're started to push towards is:

1) A version for kindle that is 95% similar to the print version as per their requirements
2) An Apple newsstand version that is also 95% similar to the print version but less than 95% like the Kindle version
3) An Android version that is also 95% similar to the print version but less than 95% like the kindle or Apple versions.
4) A web version downloadable in PDF or viewable on the site that is less than 95% like the Kindle, Apple, or Android versions.

Regarding languages:

A) An English print version printed and distributed in USA and mailable internationally.
B) A German digital version distributed separately.
C) A Spanish digital version distributed separately.
D) An Italian digital version distributed separately.
E) A Portuguese digital version distributed separately.

We will expand as allowed and these are all long term goals. Just thought everyone would want to know which way the wind is blowing.


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January 26, 2012, 02:03:59 PM
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looks very good. Just purchased!
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January 26, 2012, 02:07:25 PM
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I do hope you expect to pay anonymous for using their likeness.


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January 26, 2012, 02:08:06 PM
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I do hope you expect to pay anonymous for using their likeness.
That's a whole new definition of "anonymous donation" Tongue

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January 26, 2012, 03:07:31 PM
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Yes it will be pirated with and without DRM, but that will not prevent the Magazine for being successful.

That to me smells of speculation. If it were even remotely true, people wouldn't be using DRM in the first place.
It absolutely WILL be pirated. And there is nothing that can be done about that. Full stop.

I am actually quite anti-piracy and all for authors getting fair remuneration for their work.  I am just stating a reality.

Well we want to represent our readers just as much as we want to represent Bitcoin itself. I am weighing all the consequences and doing more research to solutions. If it's a question of "when not if" for piracy, then it's a question of "when not if" we will give it out for free. I have faith our team will always make the right decisions on these issues. I really appreciate everyone stepping up and speaking out. We need it!
I like where you're going with that.



For fun, I posted the cover on facebook, and asked people this:  "If you saw this cover of a magazine, would you be intrigued and want to look at it more closely, or just pass over it like any other magazine?"

The first comment I received was from my cousin.  For reference, she crochets and sells on etsy for extra money.  Not really the technical/computer/political type.  But, she said this:

"Before reading your comment, I read all the words on the cover that I could because I was intrigued... Does that help?"

Mission accomplished then Matthew, mission accomplished.

EDIT:  Another couple of responses...

From a different cousin's husband (farmer dude):  "now yes, 2 months ago I would have dismissed it but too many people like newt...."

From a techie friend:  "My 2 cents: This cover definitely scanned to me as "any other magazine". Having no connection to the publication, I have no reason to look at it beyond my usual "passing glance to check for any features or headlines with keywords I'm interested in". I'm also more inclined in this *specific* case to look past it and walk away because of a cover picture featuring a random Anon in a Guy Fawkes mask. It's a sight I've come to associate more with annoyingly disgruntled teens being idiots rather than any meaningful protest or political movements. It sets me up for an initial reaction along the lines of "Ugh, not more of this" before I even read a single word of the text on the page."

How about about two covers. Flip the magazine over and voile. At the B&N, the manager will decide which one to use, hence knowing his customer base.

Or putting it in a black plastic bag with "Bitcoin Magazine" in white. Therefore, you can't see any content at all until you purchase it and tear it open. Just like the porn magazines that I Like I've seen Someone once told me that they do this with adult magazines at some B&M locations, but I've never seen them.

Or use both options at the same time for the B&M stores. A newbie would, upon see the unavailable cover, simply Google it on his smart phone prior to buying. Better yet, on the black plastic option, have a QR-Code that could be scanned by a prospective buyer to see what the magazine is about. Upper right hand cover is the Bitcoin logo.

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January 26, 2012, 07:37:45 PM
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I still want to buy this magazine with fiat (VISA or Mastercard).

Is there no way to do this?

I will not buy BTC online, since it can be tracked back to me, and I will not use the BTC I have, because getting new ones will link them to me, if I purchase them with Visa or mastercard or wire.

Will Barnes & Noble sell them online for fiat, and ship internationally?

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January 26, 2012, 07:46:40 PM
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I still want to buy this magazine with fiat (VISA or Mastercard).

Is there no way to do this?

I will not buy BTC online, since it can be tracked back to me, and I will not use the BTC I have, because getting new ones will link them to me, if I purchase them with Visa or mastercard or wire.

Will Barnes & Noble sell them online for fiat, and ship internationally?

This is the first time I read anyone saying that they want to use a credit card instead of btc because it's more anonymous. Really?

If it really matters that much, why don't you send the btc to your mtgox account and then withdraw the correct amount to pay for the magazine? You can even use the green address option so there's practically no way to link that payment with your deposit.

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January 26, 2012, 07:48:50 PM
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I still want to buy this magazine with fiat (VISA or Mastercard).

Is there no way to do this?

I will not buy BTC online, since it can be tracked back to me, and I will not use the BTC I have, because getting new ones will link them to me, if I purchase them with Visa or mastercard or wire.

Will Barnes & Noble sell them online for fiat, and ship internationally?

This is the first time I read anyone saying that they want to use a credit card instead of btc because it's more anonymous. Really?

If it really matters that much, why don't you send the btc to your mtgox account and then withdraw the correct amount to pay for the magazine? You can even use the green address option so there's practically no way to link that payment with your deposit.

He wants to remain anonymous with regards to bitcoin usage. Perhaps he lives in Italy?

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January 26, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
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What does 95% similar mean?

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January 26, 2012, 08:00:46 PM
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I still want to buy this magazine with fiat (VISA or Mastercard).

Is there no way to do this?

I will not buy BTC online, since it can be tracked back to me, and I will not use the BTC I have, because getting new ones will link them to me, if I purchase them with Visa or mastercard or wire.

Will Barnes & Noble sell them online for fiat, and ship internationally?

This is the first time I read anyone saying that they want to use a credit card instead of btc because it's more anonymous. Really?

If it really matters that much, why don't you send the btc to your mtgox account and then withdraw the correct amount to pay for the magazine? You can even use the green address option so there's practically no way to link that payment with your deposit.
He means he doesn't want his real name and address associated with his bitcoin addresses, which then become associated with his online profile.  I can see the reasoning behind that.
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January 26, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
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He means he doesn't want his real name and address associated with his bitcoin addresses, which then become associated with his online profile.  I can see the reasoning behind that.

I see. So he could use green address from instawallet or mtgox. Unless of course, he's afraid that they might get subpoena to trace those transactions.

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January 26, 2012, 08:31:52 PM
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He means he doesn't want his real name and address associated with his bitcoin addresses, which then become associated with his online profile.  I can see the reasoning behind that.

I see. So he could use green address from instawallet or mtgox. Unless of course, he's afraid that they might get subpoena to trace those transactions.
Yep, I don't see any reason that wouldn't work.  Though, you don't need a green address either.  MtGox works as a free laundering service to those who choose to use it that way.  Deposit 2 BTC, withdraw 1.1409 BTC directly to the payment address of the mag, and no one is the wiser.  The monies you deposit and the monies you withdraw come from different addresses at MtGox, so they won't be traceable going in and back out unless, as you said, MtGox gets subpoena'd or something.
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January 26, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
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Regarding DRM--- The unofficial direction we're started to push towards is:

1) A version for kindle that is 95% similar to the print version as per their requirements
2) An Apple newsstand version that is also 95% similar to the print version but less than 95% like the Kindle version
3) An Android version that is also 95% similar to the print version but less than 95% like the kindle or Apple versions.
4) A web version downloadable in PDF or viewable on the site that is less than 95% like the Kindle, Apple, or Android versions.

Regarding languages:

A) An English print version printed and distributed in USA and mailable internationally.
B) A German digital version distributed separately.
C) A Spanish digital version distributed separately.
D) An Italian digital version distributed separately.
E) A Portuguese digital version distributed separately.

We will expand as allowed and these are all long term goals. Just thought everyone would want to know which way the wind is blowing.



Just purchased.

PS: I have loathed DRM since before many members of this community were born.

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January 26, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
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Maybe you could watermark the downloadable PDF files, www.phparch.com has been doing that with their issues.

It simply contains the customers name etc. at the bottom of every x page, maybe with some hidden water marks also.

Can still be given away to friends, but you cant really dump it on a torrent site without removeing all watermarks, and wondering if you got them all...

The digital buy button is greyed out, but I take its because its not ready yet ?
I would gladly pay 20$ for a DRM free PDF file, watermarked or not.

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January 26, 2012, 09:55:22 PM
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Maybe you could watermark the downloadable PDF files, www.phparch.com has been doing that with their issues.

It simply contains the customers name etc. at the bottom of every x page, maybe with some hidden water marks also.

Can still be given away to friends, but you cant really dump it on a torrent site without removeing all watermarks, and wondering if you got them all...

The digital buy button is greyed out, but I take its because its not ready yet ?
I would gladly pay 20$ for a DRM free PDF file, watermarked or not.
That's a good idea.  It still won't stop pirates (easy to remove any text from a PDF doc with the right software), but it would slow them down to an extent.  Fewer people will go through the trouble of sharing it online if it means they have to download PDF editing software to do it.  It'll take longer for pirated versions to get posted on torrents, etc.
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