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I was not involved into any scheme nor I will ever be. In fact, if I see that anyone tries to misuse my name (to me it has incredible value) I will politely leave.
Thank you thats all i wanted to know. You didn't apologize yet for calling me names though. Is that new kind of ethics? I can apologize for calling you a dumbass when someone from this team steps up to accept some responsibility. I'm not sure you realize how much investment money was lost thanks to this "error", which you nor any of the crypt dev team appears to be willing to accept responsibility for. Can you honestly say that you had no hand in bringing Attious or any of the others on board this project? I respect your reply that you aren't a Project Manager, but someone from this team needs to step up and assume responsibility for the mismanagement and form a plan for righting the ship. This whole flying by the seat of your pants is not good for business. |
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June 23, 2014, 09:33:00 PM |
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so people are hyping this coin on features that aren't even in place and promoting how it is the future based on clear smoke - hmmmm that's just more reason to not trust people like MoosaNYC, Koolio, Pr0m3theus and whoever else has a vested interest in ripping off additional buyers of this coin - in general my feelings on this coin can be summed up with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWlTkuLWFQ |
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June 23, 2014, 09:33:22 PM |
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can everyone just let the man code
i am in concurrence with this. Its none of my business, but it would probably make things easier if Mindfox and Co. appointed a non-technical member of the team to monitor this thread and field technical questions and relay the answers. This way, Mindfox has to worry less about what he's going to type in reply and more about what he's working on currently. everyone wins for the most part. The people get what they want, Mindfox gets peace and quiet to focus on his immense task. Writing code is easy. Writing code that works is difficult. Writing bug free code that works and provides a relatively high level of anonymity, well i would have to think it is quiet difficult indeed. CRYPT team, please hire a spokesperson to monitor this thread so you can focus on your task at hand. good luck Problem with having a non-tech person answer questions is one wrong answer will lead to a lot more fud then required. I think its good to let things play out and see where they go. If people are weary of the methods or ppl involved then the simple solution is to buy one of the hundreds of other coins out there that they might find more open. IF and when developments happen and you are satisfied as a buyer then by all means buy it up! No referring to you or anything, just saying ppl seem to be caught up in needing answers and proof of work right away when its as work in progress. I dont think intel or ibm would get very far if they had to update ppl daily on their progress and then answer questions about every single thing they do. Probably best to see how things unfold. |
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June 23, 2014, 09:35:32 PM |
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I was not involved into any scheme nor I will ever be. In fact, if I see that anyone tries to misuse my name (to me it has incredible value) I will politely leave.
Thank you thats all i wanted to know. You didn't apologize yet for calling me names though. Is that new kind of ethics? I can apologize for calling you a dumbass when someone from this team steps up to accept some responsibility. I'm not sure you realize how much investment money was lost thanks to this "error", which you nor any of the crypt dev team appears to be willing to accept responsibility for. Can you honestly say that you had no hand in bringing Attious or any of the others on board this project? I respect your reply that you aren't a Project Manager, but someone from this team needs to step up and assume responsibility for the mismanagement and form a plan for righting the ship. This whole flying by the seat of your pants is not good for business. They did do this in IRC chan as it was unfolding. IMO if anything Attious that fat faced pumpkin head mofo is the one that should apologize to every holder of this coin. He is the one that screwed ppl over. |
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June 23, 2014, 09:38:31 PM |
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Apparently you do because you at least took the time to post a reply along with the others that reply to different post so you do care otherwise why are you here? |
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June 23, 2014, 09:39:50 PM |
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can everyone just let the man code
i am in concurrence with this. Its none of my business, but it would probably make things easier if Mindfox and Co. appointed a non-technical member of the team to monitor this thread and field technical questions and relay the answers. This way, Mindfox has to worry less about what he's going to type in reply and more about what he's working on currently. everyone wins for the most part. The people get what they want, Mindfox gets peace and quiet to focus on his immense task. Writing code is easy. Writing code that works is difficult. Writing bug free code that works and provides a relatively high level of anonymity, well i would have to think it is quiet difficult indeed. CRYPT team, please hire a spokesperson to monitor this thread so you can focus on your task at hand. good luck Problem with having a non-tech person answer questions is one wrong answer will lead to a lot more fud then required. I think its good to let things play out and see where they go. If people are weary of the methods or ppl involved then the simple solution is to buy one of the hundreds of other coins out there that they might find more open. IF and when developments happen and you are satisfied as a buyer then by all means buy it up! No referring to you or anything, just saying ppl seem to be caught up in needing answers and proof of work right away when its as work in progress. I dont think intel or ibm would get very far if they had to update ppl daily on their progress and then answer questions about every single thing they do. Probably best to see how things unfold. The best thing i ever did for my business was hire a spokesperson to review all of my social media postings and other publications prior to publishing. He is a non technical person who doesn't know a lick of code. Best thing that ever happened to me, the trolls dropped like flies when they realized i wouldn't reply any further to feed their troll fires. |
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June 23, 2014, 09:41:19 PM |
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WOW, that's great news. Another exchange that an be used to tank the price. Thank you! |
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June 23, 2014, 09:46:35 PM |
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WOW, that's great news. Another exchange that an be used to tank the price. Thank you! Too bad you cant tank it. All talk no go. |
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June 23, 2014, 09:49:21 PM |
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Mindfox is always on IRC answering questions and helping out #cryptcoin. You should come on and listen to what he says.l Ive spoke with him many times and he is just a coder and a really good one. He is developing something that may help coins be anonymous and I believe he knows what he is doing and 100 percent behind crypt. There is too side to all of this, the technical side and the business side. What happened last week was the business side, not the development side... All IMO
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June 23, 2014, 09:51:46 PM |
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Never hear of it but RZR is .004 on there maybe we can sell our crypt there woot woot |
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June 23, 2014, 09:51:51 PM |
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Mindfox is always on IRC answering questions and helping out #cryptcoin. You should come on and listen to what he says.l Ive spoke with him many times and he is just a coder and a really good one. He is developing something that may help coins be anonymous and I believe he knows what he is doing and 100 percent behind crypt. There is too side to all of this, the technical side and the business side. What happened last week was the business side, not the development side... All IMO
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Tomorrows sunday, it wont be added because russians dont work on sundays. Not only that it would be no point because its the slowest trading day of the week. DRK was never added to BTCE and did fine on its own. BTC-e is not do all or end all. The fud was dispelled already and attious was a dickwad for doing what he did. HE was a jealous melon head for getting the boot and started this crap. Karma will catch up.
Because you came to me with some dignity I'll explain myself in detail once without going mental on the thread and share my point of view on the situation. 1- rogue dev caused all kinds of issues, ones that will keep potential new investors at bay and wont be forgotten. What does this say about the team and the ability to pick the right people for the job? Says bobsurplus, the man who went rogue on DCM and stole 21 BTC, after he got fired there for being incompetent because all he did was spread FUD at rival coins in order to get more investors to DCM. Because clearly he couldn't promote his silly coin in a legit way. This bobsurplus guy was in DCM team and killed small coins like HMY with his FUD because he wanted to kill competition before this coin even had a chance to get started and start growing. If this man was in WW2 he would kill children instead of soldiers before they grow up to be men. With chemical poison instead of face-to-face combat. That's the kind of 'man', and it's his so-called 'friends' who are right now spreading FUD in here. After he got fired from DCM, he killed his newly started coin with his 21 BTC investments he got from the IPO after like 2 days (which he refused to give back btw) by spreading FUD and mess with the market of DCM this time. He was part of a team, and 5 minutes after he got out he spread the forum with personal things, even family-related matter of his team companions. And kept saying how proud he was stealing their 21 btc and he would immediately make trips around the world with it (still in Canada bobsurplus?) Now he's investing in CLOAK and clearly is trying to outdo CRYPT as he sees it as a rival. Probably because he's about to make his second pump & dump on the CLOAK market like 2 days ago and want more people to have BTC available who can fill his pockets. He does this as soon as he's unable to promote his coin in a legit way, mainly because he realizes it's faster and gives short-term fluxes in the market, perfect for pump & dumps. I hope people realize the type of criminal he is, what he does and why he does this. Look at his posts via his profile and see for yourself. Either he's trying to lure people to other coins, or he's trying to drop the price in order to get some low CRYPT himself. It's what he does. He'd even spend money to kill a coin. The amount of time he spends on spreading FUD in here is not to help investors or to warn them, check his history this is NOT something this egocentric scammer would ever do. So be wise enough not to fall for his and his companions little tactics. He always strikes at a vulnerable point (like right now for CRYPT) and makes the simple job of recovery impossible by throwing some salt in an open wound. There's one thing he's good at and it's this. Spread the word and make people aware that bobsurplus is a fudder, scammer, and manipulative thiefPS: I'm in no way related with crypt (it's even my first post here) but this guy has to be stopped in the entire crypto world, he's a pest. To the team here i'd like to point out that what this man does is illegal on so many levels: stalking, market manipulating, stealing... and his deeds wouldn't be taken lightly. I'm willing to help taking legal steps with my own lawyer and join yours if you guys are interested. Pm me and we'll find an easier way to get in contact. readers please take a moment and read above. Wow, some good points out there. Its late so I wont put to much credence to the post but I'll tell you this. I personally brought in over 75% of the DCM IPO funds raised. I was brought onto the team due to having deep pockets and friends who also have the same deep pockets. You dont need to believe me nor do I care if you do but I always make people money. Its not my fault that the money made may be off others backs. I did what my job was for DCM and it did it better then even I had expected. Those who call me a scammer are free to do so, and they would be correct in that statement. I have done some stuff I'm not so proud of that would be in the "scamming section" but that's life. Some people lose money while others make some. Its not my fault if you're a fool and fall for it. In the meantime I have not scammed in years and the 22.2 btc I got from the IPO was my cut to use at my discretion. It's that simple. You literally said, you would slow-dump the DCM market for a long time so it could never recover again. You even dumped as soon as you left. And filled the thread (and many many other rival threads) with FUD. You made people who invested in the coin unable to recover, punishing them for the frustrations you had towards the devs - these investors were victim of your actions and did nothing wrong. You always make people money ? I see. How many people did you help by selliig your CLOAK @ 80.000 sat by the way ? 75% of the IPO you say ? So you were blatantly lying to your investors here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.msg7184159#msg7184159It was split 6 way, I have 1/6th which will be used to further this coin. I am also not off the team. Dont believe the lies and deceit. (the quote option is gone in that thread, so i pasted some text and added link in case it gets deleted)Maybe the quote below shows some of your great deeds that 'always make people money' ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.msg7184242#msg7184242TBH, to any investor who bought into the IPO and has not sold, well I feel sorry for them. Greed is bad and only costs you. The coin has seen 4x in the first day.
People should know to take profit off the table.
I see some people here have done this, others were greedy! --> that's helpful for the investors saying this AFTER the pump & dump for sure. Since you held 75% i assume you took off with the most money ? That's nice and totally not illegal ! You will only use your your IPO for DCM you say here ? And (everybody) got in the team for free ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.msg7158903#msg7158903Realx there, NOBODY ATTACKED anyone's kid or family. I merely stated (in a private PM) that he was only on the team due to him needing money to feed his kids. Hes was offered 25% of the ipo to join the team. Just to put things in perspective, I would have joined the DCM team for free, as a matter of fact I did. We all did. I dont see why IPO money being raised from investors will be used to feed a grown man and his child, but hey.. Its a free market.
I would also like to add that I am holding the full IPO amount I have received (-.0.7BTC for operating costs) and will only use it to further DCM.
Please refrain from spreading FUD about personal attacks on peoples family. Strange I remember you said you didn't want to give back the money because it was what they paid you to do your job on the team. Some other links showing the great man you are: spreading personal stuff about some kid's father (and your ex-team): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.msg7233246#msg7233246how's the campaign going ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.msg7232907#msg7232907certainly a man of his promises ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636470.msg7157906#msg7157906A real, trustworthy man. Making money by breaking several laws. You are a criminal, reading you made over $400k to BTC yet. Did you even pay taxes on that money, Bob ? Well i don't know, but i'm sure the federal fiscal administration of Canada would love to check if you paid the right amount on your whole income. All readers, please take a minute and read above. |
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can everyone just let the man code
i am in concurrence with this. Its none of my business, but it would probably make things easier if Mindfox and Co. appointed a non-technical member of the team to monitor this thread and field technical questions and relay the answers. This way, Mindfox has to worry less about what he's going to type in reply and more about what he's working on currently. everyone wins for the most part. The people get what they want, Mindfox gets peace and quiet to focus on his immense task. Writing code is easy. Writing code that works is difficult. Writing bug free code that works and provides a relatively high level of anonymity, well i would have to think it is quiet difficult indeed. CRYPT team, please hire a spokesperson to monitor this thread so you can focus on your task at hand. good luck  |
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June 23, 2014, 09:54:13 PM |
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Mindfox is always on IRC answering questions and helping out #cryptcoin. You should come on and listen to what he says.l Ive spoke with him many times and he is just a coder and a really good one. He is developing something that may help coins be anonymous and I believe he knows what he is doing and 100 percent behind crypt. There is too side to all of this, the technical side and the business side. What happened last week was the business side, not the development side... All IMO
The "technical side" also exists. The whitepaper is not updated although it describes a method that can't provide any anonymity at all (see "security analysis" reddit FUD post). |
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June 23, 2014, 09:54:35 PM |
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so people are hyping this coin on features that aren't even in place and promoting how it is the future based on clear smoke - hmmmm that's just more reason to not trust people like MoosaNYC, Koolio, Pr0m3theus and whoever else has a vested interest in ripping off additional buyers of this coin - in general my feelings on this coin can be summed up with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWlTkuLWFQyep. If it wasn't the dev team behind this "Attious" charachter, then it ws Koolio and Pr0m. The dumping was too sudden and coordinated, and pr0m broke the story in the chat with almost an encouragement to dump. |
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June 23, 2014, 10:03:12 PM |
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guys i just have an issue if you read mindfox comments who creating the anonymous feature. he says he believes there cannot be a true anonymous feature. he calls it hard to trace system which he is creating, my issue is then if mindfox believes there is no try anonymous way, then what he is building is not anonymous right.
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June 23, 2014, 10:06:03 PM |
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guys i just have an issue if you read mindfox comments who creating the anonymous feature. he says he believes there cannot be a true anonymous feature. he calls it hard to trace system which he is creating, my issue is then if mindfox believes there is no try anonymous way, then what he is building is not anonymous right.
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June 23, 2014, 10:06:32 PM |
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guys i just have an issue if you read mindfox comments who creating the anonymous feature. he says he believes there cannot be a true anonymous feature. he calls it hard to trace system which he is creating, my issue is then if mindfox believes there is no try anonymous way, then what he is building is not anonymous right.
There is no true anonymous transfer system. None of the anon coins are truly anonymous. There is always a trail. |
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