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October 30, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
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are there any plans how to handle this hard price drop?

Maybe the XC team should think about open sourcing the code as the marketcap of XC seems to adopt the price of the other blocknet coins.
I think investors loose trust in this closed coin. At least an open discussion should be started what the majority of the investors think.
Opensourcing darkcoin didn't lead to a price drop for DRK and to no copy&paste clones at least none that I am aware of.

I stated this before that i don't think it's a good idea to join forces with coins that had a that small marketcap but as it seems soon we
will have an equal marketcap which is the worst thing that could have happend. We lost more than 20% just for today ...



I see no reason for XC to take on a marketcap of other Blocknet coins.

Its superior tech has supported its price, and joining the Blocknet does not diminish its value. On the contrary, it enhances its value and will only make XC's leadership more visible as users get to try out XC's services in comparison to others.

So what could be causing the drop?

My guess is that this is a temporary phenomenon caused by the inability to sell XC for BLOCK. After the Blocknet ITO is done (and possibly gets pumped) there's reason to believe that coins will flow back into participating currencies and XC's price will rise somewhat.



the ITO began some days ago but XC is bleeding since weeks. I don't think that the ITO is repsonsible for the drop, the price is bleeding because of a lack of investors and I think the closed source code is one reason why a lot of people wouldn't buy into this coin at least when i compare how other "anonymous" centered coins like BTCD,DRK and others perfrom all of them have a much higher marketcap than XC

In two weeks XC lost more than 60% of it's value

That logic is completely broken

Bitcoindark has lost even more value than XC has over the last 90 days. They also are building supernet.

Darkcoin was at its highest value and was worth about 10 times more than all anon coins put together, when they were still closed source.........they were worth more closed source . so saying people are not liking closed source projects , when almost every single anon coin, open and closed source has seen a decrease in value of almost 50% over the last few months. some with huge projects in hand . The market for almost every single coin looks the same, like 90% of coins have a very distinctive downtrend with a loss of value of about 50% or more in the last 3 months. Trying to come up with specific reasons for single coins going down when all are showing similar signs is completely useless .

Good post. I think it pretty much comes down to Bitcoins drop in value, it's as simple as that. I could certainly do with this bitcoin 'bubble' that everyone keeps going on about happening in the near future.

But DRK started at the same level where XC started around 1mBTC. It's still 5mBTC and XC is currently at 0.5mBTC and XC never really had a hard peak. What happend to DRK is a correction but XC never had a big rise at least never longer than a few days. In the end DRK rised ~400% since it's 1mBTC level and XC dropped 50% since it's 1mBTC level.
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October 30, 2014, 04:43:03 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine. 

I don't believe that!!!
You have arguments to sustain what you just sad?

Lol Arlyn\Synchillis admitted to it up thread with a "maybe we should have mentioned it ..."

They propped you up with good news to slowly bleed you as long as they could
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October 30, 2014, 04:45:29 PM
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Yeah but the questions why do you keep posting here? Thanks for your concern my man.

Because of the condescending way the devs/PR guys responded to my factual statements about one of their team members robbing hundreds in the litecoin community of millions of dollars on lies.

They defended him and told me I was crazy, had no proof, etc etc.  Then the XC community dropped in to tell me I deserved to lose the money because I was greedy.

Since then I've taken a keen interest in XC.  I've been warning of the BlockNET but told I'm simply a fudster, etc.  My posts are deleted even when they are on topic.  Even now Teka is deleting them but not posting here.
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October 30, 2014, 04:48:47 PM
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So much blood in the streets you could go for a swim  Cool


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October 30, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine. 

was discovered by whom? Can anyone confirm this statement?
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October 30, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine. 

was discovered by whom? Can anyone confirm this statement?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg9379921#msg9379921
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October 30, 2014, 04:50:51 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine.  

was discovered by whom? Can anyone confirm this statement?

https://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26qqrq/xc_premine_wallet_made_public/

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG.htm

only 6k are left of nearly 500k
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October 30, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
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Yeah but the questions why do you keep posting here? Thanks for your concern my man.

Because of the condescending way the devs/PR guys responded to my factual statements about one of their team members robbing hundreds in the litecoin community of millions of dollars on lies.

They defended him and told me I was crazy, had no proof, etc etc.  Then the XC community dropped in to tell me I deserved to lose the money because I was greedy.

Since then I've taken a keen interest in XC.  I've been warning of the BlockNET but told I'm simply a fudster, etc.  My posts are deleted even when they are on topic.  Even now Teka is deleting them but not posting here.

"Even when they're on topic" - You mean you're posting off-topic to try to damage the coin because of your asic issues - which as I think you've been told a gazillion times before are irrelevant to XC. Anyway I should stop feeding you.
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"Even when they're on topic" - You mean you're posting off-topic to try to damage the coin because of your asic issues - which as I think you've been told a gazillion times before are irrelevant to XC. Anyway I should stop feeding you.

My statement I believe was "In crypto reputation is everything.  And if they're closely associated with the guy who pulled off this ASIC scam - buyer beware.  Don't walk.  Run."

Then I changed the title to be more friendly per Teka's request.

And yes - I've posted PLENTY of things that had nothing to do with ASICs that have been on topic for XC.  That get deleted. 
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October 30, 2014, 04:53:31 PM
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Yeah but the questions why do you keep posting here? Thanks for your concern my man.
Because of the condescending way the devs/PR guys responded to my factual statements about one of their team members robbing hundreds in the litecoin community of millions of dollars on lies.

I'm not looking to start any FUD, but personally, I would like to see them revise their statement to something that doesn't come across as defending him.
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October 30, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
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One of either things is happening now and I think it is the not so good one.

Whales are driving the price down to make a huge pump.
Or
XC is dying.

I have 700+ XC and I am not leaving, but it just doesn't look so good for XC at the moment.
It also doesn't look very good for other coins, but they are at least 100k+ still.

I will continue to support XC.
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October 30, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
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As a holder (and before we got FUD'ed again) we discussed the possibilities about using the premine.
General consensus among the people online then (2 hours ago) was that we just wait until Dan explains whats what.
Even if the premine was used until now, most of us dont care so much about him eating it (guy's has to eat right) but we would have liked to see more transparency.

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October 30, 2014, 04:56:58 PM
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One of either things is happening now and I think it is the not so good one.

Whales are driving the price down to make a huge pump.
Or
XC is dying.

I have 700+ XC and I am not leaving, but it just doesn't look so good for XC at the moment.
It also doesn't look very good for other coins, but they are at least 100k+ still.

I will continue to support XC.

In the beginning I thought this are whales but now it seems more like the XC team sold nearly all coins they had and a lot of bagholders are now hopping for the price to rise
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October 30, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
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Oh well.  I did my best to warn you all.  I pre-ordered hardware, you pre-ordered development.  Same club scammed us both.

To everyone who told me I deserved to be scammed I feel not one ounce of pity for you.  

For the rest - I did my absolute best to get you to get out of this before it happened.

Now that the coin is dead (even if many of you fail to see it.) I will leave you all in peace.  I am sorry for your loss.  
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October 30, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
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Oh well.  I did my best to warn you all.  I pre-ordered hardware, you pre-ordered development.  Same club scammed us both.

To everyone who told me I deserved to be scammed I feel not one ounce of pity for you.  

For the rest - I did my absolute best to get you to get out of this before it happened.

Now that the coin is dead (even if many of you fail to see it.) I will leave you all in peace.  I am sorry for your loss.  

rofl saw your thread from way back with all the XC devs defending the guy who ripped you off.  Also saw all the vicious posts for the XC crowd.

Karma's gotta be sweet for you bub.  Lol!
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October 30, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
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As a holder (and before we got FUD'ed again) we discussed the possibilities about using the premine.
General consensus among the people online then (2 hours ago) was that we just wait until Dan explains whats what.
Even if the premine was used until now, most of us dont care so much about him eating it (guy's has to eat right) but we would have liked to see more transparency.



the transparency story is now over, even if they come up with stuff they bought with the coins who assures you that this numbers are right?
afterwards (months,weeks later) one can come up with any story and you have to eat it.

The problem for me is that they told the investers that the premine will be used in an transparent way but this didn't happen.

Synechist even mentioned before that the blockchain on it's own is transparent enough.

But here the XC team stated something different:

https://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26qqrq/xc_premine_wallet_made_public/
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October 30, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine.  

was discovered by whom? Can anyone confirm this statement?

https://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26qqrq/xc_premine_wallet_made_public/

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG.htm

only 6k are left of nearly 500k

Wrong, 500k is not the initial sum, but the whole turnover.
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October 30, 2014, 05:04:16 PM
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The problem for me is that they told the investers that the premine will be used transparent but this didn't happen.

reputation is everything.  if they lied about "going to be transparent" then when they offer to "be transparent" whoever believes a word they say is a flaming fucktarded moron.
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October 30, 2014, 05:04:25 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine.  

was discovered by whom? Can anyone confirm this statement?

https://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26qqrq/xc_premine_wallet_made_public/

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG.htm

only 6k are left of nearly 500k

Ok so the devs posted the premine address for transparency 5 months ago but people only recently decided to check it after the coin's value started crippling?

Well, if that really is the case, there's nothing else I can say about this situation other than, if it was a dev premine dump, thats not going to bode well.

Also, what about those who ordered Tor sticks? Those things aren't exactly cheap.

We are all stardust.
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October 30, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
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what happened?  Sad Sad Sad Angry

XC Premine was discovered to be gone and admitted to by the team.  I think we found out who was selling off on good news time after time....The XC Team selling the premine.  

was discovered by whom? Can anyone confirm this statement?

https://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26qqrq/xc_premine_wallet_made_public/

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG.htm

only 6k are left of nearly 500k

Wrong, 500k is not the initial sum, but the whole turnover.

sorry i didn't check the whole inputs but it seems that there is nearly nothing left
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