chaeplin
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June 03, 2014, 03:54:10 PM |
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What chaplin is doing is very basic. He is vetting the blockchain for the transaction amount -0.00001 transaction fee. Just as an example: So lets say an amount of 1 XC was sent on block 2135. It will be split and sent to 1 mixer address in multiple payments. What happens next is another mixer address sends 0.99999 to the intended address. What he does is then looks in future blocks for an address that received a total amount of 0.99999 and bam he gets it.
I have a system in mind that I can share with the atcsecure if he wants but it should rather be done in an irc page where we can have a flowing conversation.
Yes so in this release we are NOT splitting the output, the code will be in v1.37, v1.37 will split the outputs randomly as well to stop this type of analysis this is an easy fix I would not only split the output between several xnodes but also split the input too. So allowing the total amount to be sent to multiple addresses and not fix it just to one. This will exponentially increase the difficulty of running such an analysis with every address used to the point of unfeasability and statistical true anonymity. Another feature would be to relay from xnode to xnode for a random or user selected amount of blocks depending on how "much" privacy they want. I am not vetting. So what are you doing? The only link I can see is the total sum. Design flaw...
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atcsecure
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June 03, 2014, 03:54:27 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure
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Teka (OP)
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June 03, 2014, 03:55:03 PM |
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This coin is crap. sorry.
Well crap on the internet is like $20 so I would be more than happy if our coin starts selling for that much.
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atcsecure
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June 03, 2014, 03:55:25 PM |
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What chaplin is doing is very basic. He is vetting the blockchain for the transaction amount -0.00001 transaction fee. Just as an example: So lets say an amount of 1 XC was sent on block 2135. It will be split and sent to 1 mixer address in multiple payments. What happens next is another mixer address sends 0.99999 to the intended address. What he does is then looks in future blocks for an address that received a total amount of 0.99999 and bam he gets it.
I have a system in mind that I can share with the atcsecure if he wants but it should rather be done in an irc page where we can have a flowing conversation.
Yes so in this release we are NOT splitting the output, the code will be in v1.37, v1.37 will split the outputs randomly as well to stop this type of analysis this is an easy fix I would not only split the output between several xnodes but also split the input too. So allowing the total amount to be sent to multiple addresses and not fix it just to one. This will exponentially increase the difficulty of running such an analysis with every address used to the point of unfeasability and statistical true anonymity. Another feature would be to relay from xnode to xnode for a random or user selected amount of blocks depending on how "much" privacy they want. I am not vetting. So what are you doing? The only link I can see is the total sum. Design flaw... it is not a design flaw, the code is already in place to split transactions as it is done on the inputs, the function just isn't being called at the moment
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June 03, 2014, 03:55:55 PM |
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chaeplin
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June 03, 2014, 03:56:48 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it.
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Rraider
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June 03, 2014, 03:58:20 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. And this is what you get for trusting a retard .....
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atcsecure
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June 03, 2014, 03:58:39 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain?
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atcsecure
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June 03, 2014, 04:00:37 PM |
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an updated release will resolve the output not being split, but I also want to see if there is an actual link on the blockchain between wallet A and C.. so the release covers any other potential gaps
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chaeplin
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June 03, 2014, 04:00:58 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer.
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atcsecure
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June 03, 2014, 04:02:04 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. okay POST IT
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cryptico
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June 03, 2014, 04:02:35 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
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atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. Cool post it so if you are here to help please.
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Grifftech
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June 03, 2014, 04:03:03 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. And this is what you get for trusting a retard ..... Oh yeah, but everyone seems to be all huggy lovie for him though. Good grief people look at the guys post history and shit he says in the non-moderated XC thread. But he is sooo trying to help us
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SpringfieldM1A
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June 03, 2014, 04:03:49 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. Without proof you are merely spreading false rumours, I really thought you were seriously testing the functionality of XC which would have been good for the infrastructure. Sadly you trolled everybody by making them believe you actually found something. Shame on you for perpetuating the endless fudding that goes on in this thread. For the record, I made screenshots of your posts so that when you were to spread fud in other channels it will easily be thwarted by showing your poor attempt at discrediting XC without anything to back those claims.
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studio1one
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June 03, 2014, 04:04:14 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. and I was warming to you as well. Oh well. I'll put you back in the troll box.
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chaeplin
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June 03, 2014, 04:04:33 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. okay POST IT You don't need it. You know your design. Mixer use an address for input.
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atcsecure
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June 03, 2014, 04:05:12 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. okay POST IT You don't need it. You know your design. Mixer use an address for input. YES and that INPUT has NO connection to the OUTPUT - and if your saying otherwise, I would like to see proof to backup your statement
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ethereal73
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June 03, 2014, 04:05:29 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. okay POST IT You don't need it. You know your design. Mixer use an address for input. Come one, no need for this!
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chaeplin
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June 03, 2014, 04:06:15 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. okay POST IT You don't need it. You know your design. Mixer use an address for input. That's design flaw. Splitted tx with one rx address ?
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SushiChef
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June 03, 2014, 04:06:23 PM |
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chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link. can you post that data? thanks atcsecure Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it. So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain? I can. are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer. okay POST IT You don't need it. You know your design. Mixer use an address for input. and another hour wasted while we could have done greater things for this community
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