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June 03, 2014, 04:52:01 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. we were looking for the sender address, not receiver address. Its the same thing... not enough transactions....
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June 03, 2014, 04:52:11 PM |
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realy dumb short question, if it is so easy to just watch the amounts, then why the hell noone else claimed the bounty?
if its just a 30 sek look at the blockchain (from what i read here some people think so), why noone was taking the 0.2 btc??
Was wondering the same myself. Bounty still stands as far as I know. Granted, the answer is already posted. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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June 03, 2014, 04:53:08 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. Of course I do... BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest. The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why he tested it in a stupid way
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JakeThePanda
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June 03, 2014, 04:54:55 PM |
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proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it. tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts. This is what I was thinking. There's not a whole lot going on in the blockchain, so it'd be much easier to deduce knowing how much and when it was sent. Yes so this is true, thats why I asked about the actual link between A, B, and C... based on what I have reviewed, that link doesn't exist .. and that is the most critical piece at the moment, is finding a direct link from a to b to c, .. all these other issues are trivial in terms of coding a solution Let's put out a bounty for proof. That will only teach future testers to find problems, then wait until a bounty shows up to give the info. Kind of like kidnapping a dog and then "finding" it when the reward poster goes up. So? In this case, the bounty is paying for important research and information. If someone holds it back for a bounty then so what. It's the information that's important.
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June 03, 2014, 04:55:14 PM |
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Chaeplin may be a conceited gloater, but it remains an open question whether he does in fact have some clever trick to identify sending and receiving addresses. I'd say this is unlikely, but since it's imperative that this coin is bulletproof, it's necessary for us to see his method fail.
Let's just use his ego in future: come up with a new version and invite him to track transactions. It would, of course, be better if we got him to provide proof, but in the absence of that, he will still perform a useful function. Hell, he'll even do it for free.
So I'd vote for keeping the little dickhead around.
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June 03, 2014, 04:56:57 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. Of course I do... BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest. The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why he tested it in a stupid way He guessed.... what's your point. If you guess on a test and get it correct. It is no less correct. At this point you are criticizing the process, not the outcome. Which again, does nothing to further the discussion since everyone appears to already know the means why which he came to his answer.
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June 03, 2014, 04:57:19 PM |
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So I'd vote for keeping the little dickhead around.
Many lols! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 03, 2014, 04:57:27 PM |
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June 03, 2014, 04:58:49 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. Of course I do... BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest. The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why he tested it in a stupid way He guessed.... what's your point. If you guess on a test and get it correct. It is no less correct. At this point you are criticizing the process, not the outcome. Which again, does nothing to further the discussion since everyone appears to already know the means why which he came to his answer. Omg, ofc you can get it by guessing or just looking out there for that X transaction when there are not enough transactions Anyway...
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June 03, 2014, 04:59:33 PM |
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after next version update, how about we set a public test on xc?
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June 03, 2014, 05:00:06 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. Of course I do... BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest. The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why he tested it in a stupid way He guessed.... what's your point. If you guess on a test and get it correct. It is no less correct. At this point you are criticizing the process, not the outcome. Which again, does nothing to further the discussion since everyone appears to already know the means why which he came to his answer. Yes and no. If you can't prove it's my address then it can be denied. If I just say your guess is wrong, then what?
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June 03, 2014, 05:00:53 PM |
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I'm so for snowden, I really doubt anyone at GCHQ or NSA would hire me.
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June 03, 2014, 05:01:16 PM |
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TC is the worse thing to happen to default, needs to open his eyes and not jump to conclusions, not everyone lies!!! Anyway as promised I have left, pass word changed to long random which I will forget like that plonker who ruined a perfectly fine account.
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June 03, 2014, 05:01:50 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. Of course I do... BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest. The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why he tested it in a stupid way He guessed.... what's your point. If you guess on a test and get it correct. It is no less correct. At this point you are criticizing the process, not the outcome. Which again, does nothing to further the discussion since everyone appears to already know the means why which he came to his answer. Omg, ofc you can get it by guessing or just looking out there for that X transaction when there are not enough transactions Anyway... At the end of the day, if just "guessing" is enough to sidestep the current mixing process, it isn't very anonymous is it? Don't get me wrong, I am a believer in the XC platform, and am sure ATC will get things sorted out in later revisions. I just don't know why everyone saw the need to jump down Chaeplin's throat when it was the community and the dev that asked him to do it in the first place. Anyway, I am done.
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June 03, 2014, 05:02:21 PM |
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When is the approximate date for rev 2 release? Just want to know when to have funds and BTC ready
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June 03, 2014, 05:02:36 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. Of course I do... BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest. The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why he tested it in a stupid way He guessed.... what's your point. If you guess on a test and get it correct. It is no less correct. At this point you are criticizing the process, not the outcome. Which again, does nothing to further the discussion since everyone appears to already know the means why which he came to his answer. Yes and no. If you can't prove it's my address then it can be denied. If I just say your guess is wrong, then what? If you lie, it doesn't make him wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 03, 2014, 05:02:58 PM |
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I'm so for snowden, I really doubt anyone at GCHQ or NSA would hire me. Plus with my devianart, come on.
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June 03, 2014, 05:04:24 PM |
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Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount? That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment. we were looking for the sender address, not receiver address. Then he did just the inverse. Goes back a few blocks looking for the same amount. If you guys want I can repeat what he did. That sound constructive, would be great. ACTSECURE was already setting up a new wallet for another test, maybe you two can catch up. Please, work together.
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June 03, 2014, 05:05:56 PM |
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+1 So where is your logo contest entry?
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