[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[PaidFudder]

is tor save?
i heard no
financed by us marine  

[Dungor]

I vote a +1 for using this board strictly for announcements from now on.

It's taking too much efforts from our team to manage and those efforts could be used for so much other more productive tasks.
With the current way of events it also takes a lot of time and energy for community members to read up on all the posts (of which most are completely irrelevant to the tech thats being build.
It's too bad we'll lose input from some senior crypto boardmembers, but they will acknowledge that this place is corrupted to the bone and does not serve any coin any good.

When members are paid to bring down competitors there really is no other way to leave the place that allows this to happen.
Reddit is a alternative, but would equally be corrupted by paid users.

It's time to think about how we can handle PR like a company would. Because a regular company would simply not allow to be trashed on a public board. The crypto scene is just a place where coins are born, but none has ever really left the nest. A lot of coins get killed by siblings.

When blocknet inc and XC inc are going to represent the transparency and decentralization they intent to bring to the world with their tech, the "company" should incorporate those principles into it's own foundation.

Having said that, I think it's OK to put our cards on the table in regard to coin reviews and associations with known P&D groups.
The name calling as it is being done at the moment has already smeared the reputation of our team. There is no shame in begin honest about your own intentions and the context in with the events took place. I fully trust Dan having made the decisions that would enable him to keep working on ANON tech to give to the world. Having used the premine to develop and then looking for alternative sources of income by doing coin reviews makes total sense to me. Although I would like to point out that we, as a community could have helped with funding too.

It kinda comes back to transparency again, which from an "old world paradigm" I can image feels like being exposed. It's not though.
When the premine accounting would have been published and the choices for extra income would have been shared, it would have made us stronger for being honest.

The timing of this shitstorm is perfect for starting on this new world vision of honesty and transparency. The XC inc and blocknet inc should represent that. It's an evolutionary step into the right direction. The tech and development are still in the very capable hands of Dan. The PR is still in the very capable hands of Arlyn. Let's make sure they can focus on the thing they are good at.

As being part of this community I call to move forward with the following steps:

1. Leave the bitcointalk forums for a way to communicate among each other. Make the XC announcement thread purely for announcements.
2. Focus on the current roadmap and set time based milestones for the new developments.
3. Share the costs (amounts of development hours / PR hours etc) with the community and see if we need to find ways to gather more investors. We will be building this tech like a business (as we have been doing all along) So we should be able to find serious investors from outside the crypto landscape.
4. Share any and all doubts or decisions that should be made in the community. If we are going to steer this company together in full transparency anyone should be allowed to have a say.

Meanwhile I'd like to form a team of community members to develop a new platform for decentralized transparent governance.

We shall build a platform (other then this board) where content of posters can be valued by certain criteria, for example:
- Constructive feedback
- Emotive language
- Fact based vs assumption based

It will allow voting on the direction of the tech based on "specialist" members views. This means a way to find consensus between the community and leaders of the Tech. For some issues the community will be able to choose the direction based on visions that can be rated.
For other issues the community is only one voice and a specialist (like Dan) will have the final say in what direction will be taken.

I've got this idea of community governance for a long time and this seems like an appropriate context to implement it.
I will work out some more of the idea and make a thread specifically for developing it. Please PM me if you think you can contribute.

If you don't allow the FUDders to spam in this thread they will create new threads. We can better damage control in here. What you can do as an investor is being vigilant disproving their lies as soon as they are stated as the dev. and PR team has to sleep.

[Herbix]

is tor save?
i heard no
financed by us marine  

Nope, with btc there's a problem - www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-tor-anonymity-can-busted-2500-month/.
With XC there's multiple layers of privacy enhancing features, though.

[synechist]

Morning all

Good news: looks like we can expect a writeup on all this FUD from Cryptoarticles:

https://twitter.com/jdebunt/status/528130273188126720

[synechist]

If you don't allow the FUDders to spam in this thread they will create new threads. We can better damage control in here. What you can do as an investor is being vigilant disproving their lies as soon as they are stated as the dev. and PR team has to sleep.

A thought I just had: in order to both disprove FUD and to avoid bumping FUD threads, it makes sense to create a separate anti-FUD thread, in which you'd post reasons why the FUD is all baseless and deceitful.

[silvapaso85]

is tor save?
i heard no
financed by us marine  

It's a difficult question.
What is the safety for you?

[illodin]

Can you please clarify a few things.

1 - Do you work with prometheus?  Did these conversations happen that are in these images?  Or is your claim that they were photoshopped, etc?

2 - If they did happen can you state if you are or are not the developer of Halcoin?

You won't be getting direct answers. It was the same in the beginning when people were asking whether loljosh started the coin or not.

[Sabretooth]

If you don't allow the FUDders to spam in this thread they will create new threads. We can better damage control in here. What you can do as an investor is being vigilant disproving their lies as soon as they are stated as the dev. and PR team has to sleep.

A thought I just had: in order to both disprove FUD and to avoid bumping FUD threads, it makes sense to create a separate anti-FUD thread, in which you'd post reasons why the FUD is all baseless and deceitful.

Great idea worth a try, that would also give you more time to respond to genuine concerns as they arise

[reebokasss]

If you don't allow the FUDders to spam in this thread they will create new threads. We can better damage control in here. What you can do as an investor is being vigilant disproving their lies as soon as they are stated as the dev. and PR team has to sleep.

A thought I just had: in order to both disprove FUD and to avoid bumping FUD threads, it makes sense to create a separate anti-FUD thread, in which you'd post reasons why the FUD is all baseless and deceitful.

hey synechist , is there any site or something else, where i can see how many blocks are already sold?

[cryptico]

Anyone Tested last release from Dan? I did not had time yesterday.

"I've posted an updated wallet for testing on testnet, includes the latest group chat code and most of the stealth address code [stealth is not fully enabled in this release]

Download available at >>>> http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/windows/xc-testnet.zip          ---- password is "xc" no quotes

* Remeber this is for "testnet" only, please launch with the included batch file as it contains the testnet node information
* Group chat works, most of the bugs have been resolved, but we'll use this release to identify any more
* Working Stealth address's will be released tomorrow



Mobile Wallet Update
* Based on the feedback, an updated release is coming with improved QR handling/camera auto-focus support


Dan
"

Also Happy and waiting for the updated Tor ISO

[JakeThePanda]

New FUD. 60 btc Buy support. Only in cryptoland.

+1 aint it the truth.  

Someone is just trying to keep the price from crashing on account of this new "FUD."  I bet it is prometheus.

It's horseshit buy support TBH.  If the price falls to 56k, I guarantee you those buy walls fall back into the 40ks, and so on. Whoever has the buy support, show it's true and push it to the front of the line.

[WayForward]

I wonder how many other coins are copping it from this paid fud campaign.  Will be very interesting which coins are untouched by this.  Would be almost a dead giveaway then who organized it and what coins/investments they hold and are protecting.

[mav137]

New FUD. 60 btc Buy support. Only in cryptoland.

+1 aint it the truth.  

Someone is just trying to keep the price from crashing on account of this new "FUD."  I bet it is prometheus.

It's horseshit buy support TBH.  If the price falls to 56k, I guarantee you those buy walls fall back into the 40ks, and so on. Whoever has the buy support, show it's true and push it to the front of the line.

Im part of that wall, yesterday low was 46k, that's where im at at the moment.
I was too busy responding too the frikkin FUD to take advantage of the price

I dont expect it to drop that low again, but when it does, those coins are mine

edit
at least the volume is back

[reebokasss]

New FUD. 60 btc Buy support. Only in cryptoland.

+1 aint it the truth.  

Someone is just trying to keep the price from crashing on account of this new "FUD."  I bet it is prometheus.

It's horseshit buy support TBH.  If the price falls to 56k, I guarantee you those buy walls fall back into the 40ks, and so on. Whoever has the buy support, show it's true and push it to the front of the line.

Im part of that wall, yesterday low was 46k, that's where im at at the moment.
I was too busy responding too the frikkin FUD to take advantage of the price

I dont expect it to drop that low again, but when it does, those coins are mine

edit
at least the volume is back

im part of that buy orders also, my order is at 50,58k (2BTC) , i dont expect that it hit so low again, but maybe ) if it hit this low it will be till 5th of november, after that date we wont see any dumps again

[JakeThePanda]

New FUD. 60 btc Buy support. Only in cryptoland.

+1 aint it the truth.  

Someone is just trying to keep the price from crashing on account of this new "FUD."  I bet it is prometheus.

It's horseshit buy support TBH.  If the price falls to 56k, I guarantee you those buy walls fall back into the 40ks, and so on. Whoever has the buy support, show it's true and push it to the front of the line.

Im part of that wall, yesterday low was 46k, that's where im at at the moment.
I was too busy responding too the frikkin FUD to take advantage of the price

I dont expect it to drop that low again, but when it does, those coins are mine

edit
at least the volume is back

It doesn't matter because I don't think you're going to get filled anyway, at least not in the next few days.

[synechist]

Hi all

To clarify our plan of action regarding this FUD campaign:

We give it no credit.‏

It does not deserve a response beyond the single statement I made yesterday.‏

Nor do we intend to allow it to slow down our work. We do not feel it justifies any further time or energy, and so there is no reason to clarify matters regarding claims made about XC, the Blocknet, or Dan.


We're done with it. We're moving on with development.‏


Any further responses are likely to simply be re-quotes of this comment and yesterday's statement.
Please do the same if you think that giving FUD credit has no warrant.

[policymaker]

atcsecure, what's your view on this?
It sounds quite familiar and can we consider this as a competitor?

Yes it is a competitor and a sign that time are changing, big business is getting into "monetizing the node".. IBM has a project in the works as well.

It is a race to the finish at this point while competing against big players

Did you all pass over this?  Worthy of taking a look at.  While everyone else is squabbling about this or that, I'm keeping my eyes on the big picture.

It seems that no one seems to care. In my opinion, this is actually quite huge for XC as the similarieties on the project confirm that atcsecure's vision is heading on the right direction. If bigger company (as in Bitpay) is working on a similar project, that does tell me that there's actually something bubbling on a larger scale at the tech front.

What herbix said. I was a bit harsh on him the other day, but he was just raising questions among countless FUD puppet accounts thats why I tilted... This point is actually ~proof of work.

Hey guys, how about we make a poll, like in topic v1: the question should be, do we want to move the topic in XC forum, or make a new topic v3 STRICTLY moderated alltogether. FUD=delete ban, no questions asked.

I personally prefer potentia investors and any1 who might care to discuss XC under our forum, which was awesome to begin with, than try and make BTCTALK work... and let them FUD all they want in here, low price= accumulation for holders and investors= rewarding true believers till rev3

[akula999]

Hi all

To clarify our plan of action regarding this FUD campaign:

We give it no credit.‏

It does not deserve a response beyond the single statement I made yesterday.‏

Nor do we intend to allow it to slow down our work. We do not feel it justifies any further time or energy, and so there is no reason to clarify matters regarding claims made about XC, the Blocknet, or Dan.


We're done with it. We're moving on with development.‏


Any further responses are likely to simply be re-quotes of this comment and yesterday's statement.
Please do the same if you think that giving FUD credit has no warrant.

Thank you. Was getting nervous but I'm feeling better about the whole thing. Purchased 20 more XC this morning. Happy Times

[synechist]

Let's wait until Dan is awake before deciding whether to close this thread.

[Longenecker]

Let's wait until Dan is awake before deciding whether to close this thread.

If you close this thread FUD will move to BlockNET thread.

The last thing you want during an ITO is lack of information readily available to potential investors.