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[stormia]

Why so much internal bickering? Common guys, Crypti is lucky in that for the most parts trolls have steered clear, let's not troll each other 

[Litoshi]

eccentric???

Your ideas so are far to eccentric to be practically implemented, or have any use to Crypti (or any other crypto-currency) for that matter....

Eccentric.  



Which is actually accurate, I really am more like this IRL than Mal Reynolds....

Well, Mal, the difference between "crazy" and "eccentric" is respect. 

[starik69]

In future releases, Boris is not going to release Windows versions of the full wallet because of this issue.  Windows versions will be Lite wallets only.  Full wallets will be Linux based.

Very bad move.
This idol of 10sec block getting too much sacrifice for Crypti

You don't need a full node on Windows.

Another sign of dictatorship - you decide for others what they need and what not
If you really think like that Crypti forever will be closed club with no community and never became cryptocurrency

With the only difference, that I can't force my opinion on others like a real dictator can. I can just state my opinion.

Not you, but devs.
BTW, this could not happen if Crypti goes open source

[Passion_ltc]

Why so much internal bickering? Common guys, Crypti is lucky in that for the most parts trolls have steered clear, let's not troll each other 

This is starik for you. We all love each others.

[stormia]

Btw just to throw my opinion out there...

I agree that you should only release lite wallets for windows, because of the issue with windows not being able to correctly sync the time- which is not an issue with crypti but with windows. I'm curious though, does anybody know how quick a blocktime you can have before running into this problem? 10 sec is obvs too quick, but what about 20s or 30s? Would having the minimum blocktime capable of preventing this problem be possible if it is only a bit slower than the current blocktime? Might be worth the sacrifice in transaction time.

Also, I agree that there will need to be more incentive to setup a full node or else we will be left with only the 101 active delegates and perhaps a few extra. I don't know how much of a problem that would actually be (if at all), but I think it is inevitable if there is no incentive for inactive delegates (especially once the 101 active delegates have become so entrenched with so many votes and high uptime % that it seems impossible to make it into the active 101 for somebody setting up a new delegate).

[MalReynolds]

BTW, this could not happen if Crypti goes open source

Speaking of this, what is the plan / timeline / rev number for Crypti to make its code public?

[crypti]

BTW, this could not happen if Crypti goes open source

Speaking of this, what is the plan / timeline / rev number for Crypti to make its code public?

I can't say you now when, but we will publish source code soon.
But source code of previous versions, and i think without DPoS part.

[Passion_ltc]

Btw just to throw my opinion out there...

I agree that you should only release lite wallets for windows, because of the issue with windows not being able to correctly sync the time- which is not an issue with crypti but with windows. I'm curious though, does anybody know how quick a blocktime you can have before running into this problem? 10 sec is obvs too quick, but what about 20s or 30s? Would having the minimum blocktime capable of preventing this problem be possible if it is only a bit slower than the current blocktime? Might be worth the sacrifice in transaction time.

Also, I agree that there will need to be more incentive to setup a full node or else we will be left with only the 101 active delegates and perhaps a few extra. I don't know how much of a problem that would actually be (if at all), but I think it is inevitable if there is no incentive for inactive delegates (especially once the 101 active delegates have become so entrenched with so many votes and high uptime % that it seems impossible to make it into the active 101 for somebody setting up a new delegate).

Imo 101 nodes are enough. DPoS is a system, which offers all the benefits of a centralized system with enough decentralization. It means that 101 is an empirical found number by the BitShares team, which offers great advantages.

+ Decentralized
+ Fast


It is not needed to have more nodes running at a time. The network works flawless with these 101 delegates. Even when we have 100x the volume.


This is my personal opinion through.

[grandpa_seth]

The 101 delegates are the network. Am I wrong? So really the only reason to have plenty of standbys are to backup

the 101 in case of under performance and/or being down voted. The guy who keeps saying Crypti is slow in China is he right?

If there are more Chinese delegates in the 101 would that make it faster there? Is that how it works?

[Passion_ltc]

based on crypti images

For everyone who has a Crypti business/website and wants to show that it's based on the crypti network.

[Litoshi]

The 101 delegates are the network. Am I wrong? So really the only reason to have plenty of standbys are to backup

the 101 in case of under performance and/or being down voted. The guy who keeps saying Crypti is slow in China is he right?

If there are more Chinese delegates in the 101 would that make it faster there? Is that how it works?

I realize you have been away from our blog for awhile, grandpa_seth, so I will recap for you:

China has a "Great Firewall" that censors and filters all internet traffic... that is what slows the internet there.  As for the Delegates, we started with 101 foundation and dev delegates so that we could get the network up and running on Day 1.  The plan is for the community to then form delegates and the foundation to down vote its delegates to standby status.  There have been only a handful of community members that have formed nodes.

Originally, a delegate cost was 10,000 XCR....... after two weeks, we lowered that to 100 XCR.  Also we lowered the transaction fees from .5% to .1%. 

Presently, it is votes, and votes only that determine what delegates are in the 101 club.  If a delegate goes inactive, or stops forging for any reason, it still remains in the 101 club.  This will change in future versions.  Also, a delegate, once formed, cannot be deleted. 

Users can vote for the delegates they wish to be in the top 101.  There is one vote counted for each XCR in your wallet.  Voting costs 1XCR, and you can vote your total wallet for 33 delegates.  You can also remove your vote from up to 33 delegates per 1XCR vote fee.  Your total votes up cannot exceed 101 votes.  This takes 4 vote sessions to accomplish.  Many users only vote for a few delegates.  The total votes shows as APPROVAL in the Delegate page. 

The foundation controls 11% of the votes, and the dev team has purchased another 20% of the coins since the IPO.  25% are in Bter, and another 20% are in other exchanges.  That leaves about 24% that is in wallets of inactive investors.   

[grandpa_seth]

Recaps are good for all especially as threads get longer and interest increases.

So then there is no benefit to people running non delegate nodes. Sorry I'm too lazy to look up his name

but the guy who wants to run additional nodes in China to help the Crypti network has not been responded to

that he's wasting his energy. So the 101 delegate system makes Crypti a decentralized coin with the benefits of

centralized in a decentralized way.

[stormia]

Btw just to throw my opinion out there...

I agree that you should only release lite wallets for windows, because of the issue with windows not being able to correctly sync the time- which is not an issue with crypti but with windows. I'm curious though, does anybody know how quick a blocktime you can have before running into this problem? 10 sec is obvs too quick, but what about 20s or 30s? Would having the minimum blocktime capable of preventing this problem be possible if it is only a bit slower than the current blocktime? Might be worth the sacrifice in transaction time.

Also, I agree that there will need to be more incentive to setup a full node or else we will be left with only the 101 active delegates and perhaps a few extra. I don't know how much of a problem that would actually be (if at all), but I think it is inevitable if there is no incentive for inactive delegates (especially once the 101 active delegates have become so entrenched with so many votes and high uptime % that it seems impossible to make it into the active 101 for somebody setting up a new delegate).

Imo 101 nodes are enough. DPoS is a system, which offers all the benefits of a centralized system with enough decentralization. It means that 101 is an empirical found number by the BitShares team, which offers great advantages.

+ Decentralized
+ Fast


It is not needed to have more nodes running at a time. The network works flawless with these 101 delegates. Even when we have 100x the volume.


This is my personal opinion through.

How many of the 101 are the same person or group/organization?

[grandpa_seth]

Regular Crypti users especially Windows users should only ever use the lite wallet.
Being a delegate is a commitment and serious business. If you are serious about
being a delegate then you would not be running on a Windows machine now that
I think about it.

A Windows PC implies you are running other programs and restarting often
which would affect your up time over time. So a delegate would be running
it in the cloud or a dedicated Linux contraption anyway. This makes sense to me.

[grandpa_seth]

How many of the 101 are the same person or group/organization?

Its no secret many of the initial 101 have multiple delegates to support the network initially. It was absolutely necessary.

They are trying to replace slowly with community members and ideally nobody should have more than one delegate.

But that is later in time when Crypti is widely used. Dapps will help that come sooner. My guess is cryptos will gain

mainstream mass adoption in the year 2058. The good news is Crypti has the potential to be in the top 3. Again my guess

by then for Crypti is around 1.2 Trillion $ market cap. That's the good news. The bad news is I won't be alive.

Or is that the good news? I forget.

[Litoshi]

Btw just to throw my opinion out there...

I agree that you should only release lite wallets for windows, because of the issue with windows not being able to correctly sync the time- which is not an issue with crypti but with windows. I'm curious though, does anybody know how quick a blocktime you can have before running into this problem? 10 sec is obvs too quick, but what about 20s or 30s? Would having the minimum blocktime capable of preventing this problem be possible if it is only a bit slower than the current blocktime? Might be worth the sacrifice in transaction time.

Also, I agree that there will need to be more incentive to setup a full node or else we will be left with only the 101 active delegates and perhaps a few extra. I don't know how much of a problem that would actually be (if at all), but I think it is inevitable if there is no incentive for inactive delegates (especially once the 101 active delegates have become so entrenched with so many votes and high uptime % that it seems impossible to make it into the active 101 for somebody setting up a new delegate).

Imo 101 nodes are enough. DPoS is a system, which offers all the benefits of a centralized system with enough decentralization. It means that 101 is an empirical found number by the BitShares team, which offers great advantages.

+ Decentralized
+ Fast


It is not needed to have more nodes running at a time. The network works flawless with these 101 delegates. Even when we have 100x the volume.


This is my personal opinion through.

How many of the 101 are the same person or group/organization?

There are presently 8 delegates run by community members in the 101 club, the other 93 are run by the devs, or are fillers run by the foundation.  These are down voted as community members form delegates.  There are 5 community delegates in the standby list that need to be voted up to get into the 101.

[Mandy1749]

my second delegate:China

first of all.
thank you guys help me and vote for my first Luiz.
as you know,due to the network problem,i have to move my first delegate Luiz to Vultr for a nice uptime.

this time,i setup my second node in China using Aliyun,which is a cloud server produce by Alibaba.

and after @Crypti 's help ,this server is more stable now,so i think it's time to setup my second delegate,i named it "China"
that shows that this delegate node will only stay in China
it's my Responsibility to make the Crypti network grow here.
i know there have very little Chinese in community now.and that's why i want to do this.

so,please vote for my second delegate :China
help us cross the "Great Fire Wall".

Node detail:
Node IP:123.57.212.110
Account: 6412113237994008527C
Delegate Name: China


Host: Aliyun
RAM : 512MB
SSD : 20 GB
CPU(s) : 1
Region: Beijing China
OS: Ubuntu 14.04 x64

[Vagnavs]

my second delegate:China

first of all.
thank you guys help me and vote for my first Luiz.
as you know,due to the network problem,i have to move my first delegate Luiz to Vultr for a nice uptime.

this time,i setup my second node in China using Aliyun,which is a cloud server produce by Alibaba.

and after @Crypti 's help ,this server is more stable now,so i think it's time to setup my second delegate,i named it "China"
that shows that this delegate node will only stay in China
it's my Responsibility to make the Crypti network grow here.
i know there have very little Chinese in community now.and that's why i want to do this.

so,please vote for my second delegate :China
help us cross the "Great Fire Wall".

Node detail:
Node IP:123.57.212.110
Account: 6412113237994008527C
Delegate Name: China


Host: Aliyun
RAM : 512MB
SSD : 20 GB
CPU(s) : 1
Region: Beijing China
OS: Ubuntu 14.04 x64

Thanks for stepping up and providing a China delegate. Hopefully we can get more Chinese crypto enthusiast involved with Crypti.
Best regards
Brian

[Vagnavs]

Okay I updated my Signature. Hopefully that will get a *little* more exposure. What other things can we do to get Crypti more awareness. Or I suppose once the design and store has been set up. We can focus our efforts towards marketing. It just a tough field with quite a few other coins out there..I don't see a real hurry to get out the code in open source. It will likely be ripped and ripped and ripped then repackage as coin X, Y z
Regards,
Brian

[GreXX]

In future releases, Boris is not going to release Windows versions of the full wallet because of this issue.  Windows versions will be Lite wallets only.  Full wallets will be Linux based.

Very bad move.
This idol of 10sec block getting too much sacrifice for Crypti

You don't need a full node on Windows.

Another sign of dictatorship - you decide for others what they need and what not
If you really think like that Crypti forever will be closed club with no community and never became cryptocurrency

With the only difference, that I can't force my opinion on others like a real dictator can. I can just state my opinion.

Not you, but devs.
BTW, this could not happen if Crypti goes open source

Starik, if someone were to run a full node on windows and try to become a delegate, it would be pointless. As soon as they became a delegate and were active and started missing blocks, they would just get voted out. So what is the point of supporting full nodes for windows? Full nodes aren't meant to be run by the average user. The Lite Wallet can interface with the delegates for anyone on a Windows box, but no one running an application, PoS, or otherwise would be running windows anyways.