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May 02, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.

Man, it is time to really take a look around about what is happening.  The core NIS for NEM is so much more advanced than Bitcoin.  You are saying that companies won't build on NEM, that is so last year, because this year they actually ARE building on NEM.  http://techbureau.jp/ Tech Bureau just got $5,000,000 in funding.  There main product is Mijin, built with NEM technology, and the only chain ever to be certified by a real bank doing independent 3rd party stress tests of millions of accounts with millions of transactions a day and not faulting.  Bitcoin can't even do 1/10 of that and Mijin was in low safe gear for that test.

You think that Bitcoin will someday be ready and someday get business.  You think that people don't know what to do with the blockchain.  Actually..... there are A LOT of very smart people with resources and funds to build great blockchain projects, its just that Bitcoin was so slow, so clunky, and so hard to work with that they were sitting around waiting.  Ethereum and NEM are proving that together. Bitcoin needs to adapt or get left behind (and I say that as a person that owns a lot of BTC.

DF just signed a deal to work with Infoteria.  Infoteria provides software to over 5000 medium to large size companies and they want a blockchain to be a part of their enterprise software suite.  Maybe you have heard of some of those companies that use Infoteria as their software suite like Sony, Panasonic, and Mitsubishi?

Not only does NEM scale better than Bitcoin.  It has namespaces built into the core (like namespaces but better).  It has mosaics built into the core (like counter party but better).  It has encrypted messaging built into the core (is there even a fork of bitcoin doing that?).  And it has so many other things.  

NEM has a long line of firsts.  

  • A new consensus mechanism called POI.
  • First ever P2P time sync of nodes. (great for security of the chain)
  • First use of the Eigentrust++ as a security clustering algorithm allowing node reputations to be given and shared to their neighbor nodes in clusters, making it very difficult for a node to give false information consistently to the network. (great for security of the network)
  • First use of a new kind of transaction spam guard. It targets the specific accounts doing the spamming and raises their transaction fees, while letting the global transaction fee rate stay low. (good for the chain)
  • First blockchain with a multisig 2.0 protocol. NEM’s version of multisig doesn’t make new accounts for a multisig address, instead it takes an existing account and makes a contract over it with other accounts. This form of multi-user accounts can make any form of M of N with ease and can also can have the M or the N edited with ease as it is simply just updating the meta data of the blockchain based contract. This form of multisig also has blockchain based notifications so transactions or updates of the M of N are pushed to the wallets as transactions to sign. (great security and ease of use for the user. simply the easiest and most flexible multisig in crypto)
  • NEM’s multisig is so easy and flexible to use, it can be used as a foundational tool for DAO’s.
  • Mosaics are the most advanced token creation feature in crypto allowing for many advanced 2.0 features.  When creating personalized blockchain based tokens, the mosaic can be created as mutable, immutable, divisible, not divisible, levies, transferable, not transferable, descriptions, and a name as a part of namespaces. (great for businesses)
  • Along with mosaics, NEM also released its new naming service, Namespace, that is also the most advanced and most integrated naming service of any blockchain. (great for reputation of businesses that build on NEM as all projects can be under an umbrella name or or even sub-domains)



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May 02, 2016, 10:15:21 AM
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I repeat once again.

I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.
The developers were developing thanks to the money of investors.
I have completed all reactivate your account. The developers have taken all of my activation.
At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.


@team  I warn you. Take my words seriously. I see that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation.



So, I repeat too. What happened to this address that you owned - NACGGR-FZDT4A-F4A56S-RWLCUX-JFCQ4E-US6GO3-PWLD? Aren't you going to complain about that too?
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May 02, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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I repeat once again.

I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.
The developers were developing thanks to the money of investors.
I have completed all reactivate your account. The developers have taken all of my activation.
At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.


@team  I warn you. Take my words seriously. I see that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation.


You got nothing and you lost everything! You're way too late. It is your fault and not the mistake of the developers.
Deal with your own faults!!!
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May 02, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
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I repeat once again.

You repeat too much.  You have had this explained to you many times.  The jumping up and down and stamping you feet doesn't do anything. 


- Yes, it is better to answer than the troll me, laugh at me and humiliate.

I have asked many times, and I ask again the defense community. I need some help, a person with a lawyer's position, quarterback. Most against me, because they are comfortable, they feel good. I have for you the enemy. There are those who disagree with me are many, but they are silent.
You overwhelm me favorably. Profitably. And this is a mistake. It's an old model for conventional forks. Feral Wednesday, selfish behavior model, like all low-lying cryptocurrency Wednesday at its base.
This self-awareness in the Middle Ages, the community development cryptocurrency based model for the animal world. But community is not ready to join the civilized world. Broad Company shall not be prepared to accept the Community cryptocurrency in many countries. Because of the savagery of manners, from the fact that they see immature standards, principles, relations between all members of the community.
I want to NEM has transformed itself and the environment, has made a breakthrough in the ethics, morals and decency. To NEM facing challenges came from the Middle Ages and truly conquered the world. It is a pity that all this is happening in my body, because it is painful for me, because the whole community against me and strikes. This drop. This is the Middle Ages.

I'm only about a normal relationship in which the parties recognize their mistakes, ready to see not only their own interests. Now you occupy an extremely accusatory position, again because it is beneficial to you. But it is not the words of the new model to change the call that is in front of everyone.


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I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.

No, you weren't.  You were a NEM donator, not an investor. And you donated to a guy that isn't even in NEM anymore.  The call for donations was very clearly explained to be donations not ICO. 

- I answered it in the above answer. It is a position of weakness and avoiding responsibility by shifting it onto others.
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At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You have been told you were a sock puppet.  Anybody can look at your account and when it was born for a give away along with your "brothers" account that was born for a give away.  Both accounts had a few posts and fell asleep there after.  So you were very clearly flagged as a sock puppet.  It was because NEM took so much time researching each investor that it got a fair distribution.

Nobody has sympathy for you because anybody can click on your account history and find out, "yes, it clearly is a sock account."


- "Nobody has sympathy for you because anybody can click on your account history and find out, "yes, it clearly is a sock account." "

For me it was a means of protecting steak NEM.
On overexposed accounts come links to viruses, they can be traced, I would like to NEM-protected account.
What is wrong if I'm worried about security?

And a system that is not true judgment, you talked about inviting their relatives, a brother or sister. What do you think of when they hear it will come to register, will make their money, you then throw them too? Or they will be obliged to communicate to show that they are honest? You understand that you are?

Therefore, I ask to show me the criteria by which you assess.

I have a suspicion mashennichestva under such a pretext.

For myself, I feel that's what I was deceived. Or I make a mistake, and I'm trying to find out.



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I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.

You weren't an investor, there was a call for participation and you were a donater to a guy that isn't here anymore.  He spent all of the money donated to him and none of the core team or devs ever received any of it. 

You have no chance getting your stake as everyone has told you.  You are a year too late for that.  Next time I would ask you to watch your donations better.  A good faith effort was made to be fair to all the real people by kicking out sock puppets, and then be fair to the sock puppets (which your account clearly is) to have a protest period, many of which were granted some XEM.  You missed that window that went on for months.  That isn't the devs fault, it is yours.  You are going to have to live with it. 

And the way you are handling yourself is counter productive.

At the time you invested, you would have invested about 350 NXT.  At today's prices that is all of $2.50, but to be fair back then it was about $25.  So in one way you can look at that you lost $25 or in another way you can think of it as losing $2.50.  But still, look at this account.  http://chain.nem.ninja/#/search/NCITYX-64R3VN-3M7IS4-53RMXZ-BJS7BR-QIHBGZ-JYQV

That is an account of a guy that lost his stake, came into the NEM community and was really cool about it and took responsibility and owned that he should have paid more careful attention to his donation.  The result is that people donated more than $75 to him in XEM.  That could have been you.  It won't be. 

If you continue to troll, you posts will be deleted.  We almost never moderate this thread and let people speak their minds and criticize and even get angry, but you have said your part and gotten your answer.  It is time to accept it and move on. 


- Sorry, but it sounds extremely seriously.

"You were not an investor, there was a call for participation and you were a donater to a guy that is not here anymore. He spent all of the money donated to him and none of the core team or devs ever received any of it. "


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 "....and then be fair to the sock puppets (which your account clearly is) to have a protest period, many of which were granted some XEM.  You missed that window that went on for months.  That isn't the devs fault, it is yours.  """

- It should not be limited, I saw a comment in which the time restrictions were lifted. You would have to provide for such an outcome if you decide to remove the people. I am now - this is the case.
Probably the latter, but I was the same case when convicted unjustly.


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"""And the way you are handling yourself is counter productive. """


And the way you are handling yourself is counter productive.

What does not conduct myself? I know that you wicked. What do you see about me the enemy.
- I'm not well?
- I have offended someone?
- I called you a troll?


- From the first post I asked the help, because he could not enter into a purse.
- I suggested, thank you, I went.
- Then I found 0,00 NEM on the account, and it hurt.
- Then I ask, why? Why?
- I was told that I Troll.
- I was told that I had been removed.
- I'm all comments asked for help.
- They asked me to shut up.
- You plug my mouth.

And I'm ill?
Where do I even lower fall in front of you? Stand on your knees?
Sorry, if you just help me. Because you live according to the laws of the animal. In the old paradigm of the medieval community. All against one. All byut one. Ok, hit next.


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"""""At the time you invested, you would have invested about 350 NXT.  At today's prices that is all of $2.50, but to be fair back then it was about $25.  So in one way you can look at that you lost $25 or in another way you can think of it as losing $2.50.""""

- This is a trick. I do not lead it. Do not bother.

The contribution is equal to one steak. The amount of investment is always proportional to its market outcomes. These $ 25 not $ 25 and talk about their return is not. I need the equivalent of my contribution to NEM.




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"""That is an account of a guy that lost his stake, came into the NEM community and was really cool about it and took responsibility and owned that he should have paid more careful attention to his donation.""


I said somewhere that I waive liability?

From the beginning I ask for help. I'm trying to understand.
How can I take responsibility for what is not yet clear. I want to know when, in what month I was dismissed. What are the criteria judged me. Why not alerted me, and so on.

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- Do not plug my mouth and stick label trol.

And do not delete my posts, it would be a big mistake.

I understand that I have no land, you want my "death", or that I should shut up, but you have removed me, and although I do not like you, I am.




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May 02, 2016, 10:47:14 AM
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I repeat once again.

I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.
The developers were developing thanks to the money of investors.
I have completed all reactivate your account. The developers have taken all of my activation.
At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.


@team  I warn you. Take my words seriously. I see that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation.



So, I repeat too. What happened to this address that you owned - NACGGR-FZDT4A-F4A56S-RWLCUX-JFCQ4E-US6GO3-PWLD? Aren't you going to complain about that too?


I have already said, this is the address of my brother. I have carefully read the rules at the very beginning, and invited him to participate. He was more than skeptical, but agreed.

I'll defend my part.

His distrust is justified for him. He once said - "There's some crooks, they deceived you." I said that this is not so, and now with horror watching the way you treated me.

All compounded by the fact that he and I believed that we have a stake in the NEM. And I told him that he could buy a new shirt on the NEM (this is a long family tradition with a white shirt, I will not go into details), I promised it to him.

Repented he still did not say that we have thrown out his share, too. I do not want to, he was right, it's horrible, I do not want to be deceived.
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May 02, 2016, 10:58:13 AM
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I repeat once again.

I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.
The developers were developing thanks to the money of investors.
I have completed all reactivate your account. The developers have taken all of my activation.
At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.


@team  I warn you. Take my words seriously. I see that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation.


You got nothing and you lost everything! You're way too late. It is your fault and not the mistake of the developers.
Deal with your own faults!!!
You dig yourself a hole.
I claim the low level of the community.

The leaders decided to remove stekholderov had to appreciate the serezhnost this step. They had to know that even in theory the probability that people will be deleted by mistake. And they know that the price they have to pay for the removal - ready for the emergence of bona fide stekholderov.

By elementary logic of probability distribution, the number of stekholderov decreases over time. But, they can poyavtsya and a year later! And they knew it.

And you know how they are removed from the responsibility? Very simple. Here are their thoughts:
- When will stekholdery good faith, we knock down them. We say that time has passed. What is late. And we know that we will support the entire community. Together we knock down, we will control and squeeze these people. They will leave with nothing. Thank you idiots that have invested. Then we will have more and we'll throw them.

That's the way it thought. This is irresponsible. It's despicable. And there is a chance and an opportunity for all does not look so.

I still ask for help and support of the community. Do not turn on, please, animal instincts.
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May 02, 2016, 11:11:05 AM
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It's a shame that I did not keep a history of correspondence. I talked with your team and the organizer of the received information on the token. About how to activate it. I deleted these messages for security reasons. But there just was clear that I am not a fake. What I'm a normal person and the investor. I do not understand how he could then communicate and help remove me.
So I want to understand the criteria and the reasons why I was removed.
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May 02, 2016, 11:31:27 AM
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I hope it would truly help you to admit your fault and forget the past and buy XEM now at cheap price.
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May 02, 2016, 11:32:14 AM
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http://jba-web.jp/

Here is another consortium in Japan.  Looks like a nice team.  One of the companies in it is building on NEM too.  

It looks like Japan is leading the world in Blockchain alliances.  A great place to be.  

Looks like SBI is working in this consortium.

Yep. I am also in JBA.

Can you give us more info about how NEM can profit from JBA?

Will you endorse NEM to this group and the industries who are joined as well?

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May 02, 2016, 01:57:57 PM
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I hope it would truly help you to admit your fault and forget the past and buy XEM now at cheap price.

I was pretty to see your position in the entire blame yourself, do not share it with me.
At the moment, I did not see the criteria and tend to the opinion of injustice or fraud. Veiled, subtle but deception.
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May 02, 2016, 02:40:39 PM
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I boought yet 2million NEM (XEM), at cheap price 355 satoshi.  Smiley
Rela price for nem >2000 satoshi. It is only 1-2 years. I hold it.









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May 02, 2016, 02:57:56 PM
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I boought yet 2million NEM (XEM), at cheap price 355 satoshi.  Smiley
Rela price for nem >2000 satoshi. It is only 1-2 years. I hold it.


Nice, I am waiting for the price to go down so I can get more cheap coins  Grin
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May 02, 2016, 03:17:33 PM
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I boought yet 2million NEM (XEM), at cheap price 355 satoshi.  Smiley
Rela price for nem >2000 satoshi. It is only 1-2 years. I hold it.

I wouldn't be surprise if we went up more than 50 times by then to 15000. That sounds crazy, but 2 years is a long time in blockchain time.
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May 02, 2016, 03:38:46 PM
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I boought yet 2million NEM (XEM), at cheap price 355 satoshi.  Smiley
Rela price for nem >2000 satoshi. It is only 1-2 years. I hold it.

I wouldn't be surprise if we went up more than 50 times by then to 15000. That sounds crazy, but 2 years is a long time in blockchain time.

Yea, but 2 years didn't work out for NXT, so don't get too greedy.

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So, Tuxlsik is just another account of the person behind damnac and CECVW right? Just more sockpuppet accounts getting dug up by a grumpy troll? While there's clearly some differences in specific things, such as the AAAAAAAA(((((((((((((((((((( and so forth, the constant incessant posting, overall approach, grammar, etc is so similar I can't help but think it's the same person.

I mean, he has to know that no one's going to give him a couple million NEM, especially with this childish behaviour.. All his points have been shot down in great detail (thanks jabo38), and he's been a bit of a jerk from the get-go, lobbing accusations before even trying to resolve the 'issue'. If he truly was looking for a solution, no sensible person would approach is this way.. Plus the suddenly INSANE level of activity after 2 years of total silence on the account, and just a single day of activity 2 years ago - it's just SO obvious that it's a sockpuppet account.. Plus - no sign that this person ever posted anything pertaining to NEM before a few days ago. It's just about impossible to believe that this is his sole and primary account, and that his story is true.

Plus, if you lost a $25 investment, how many hours would you spend freaking out about it? If he's really in finance, he'd realize that there's no ROI in this behaviour. Clearly trolling just as he has several times using his other sockpuppet accounts to try to bring prices down by tainting the tone of discourse on this thread.



Queue the mocked-up shock & insult and a series of consecutive posts saying nothing new and possibly attacking me directly:

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May 02, 2016, 05:36:03 PM
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So, Tuxlsik is just another account of the person behind damnac and CECVW right? Just more sockpuppet accounts getting dug up by a grumpy troll? While there's clearly some differences in specific things, such as the AAAAAAAA(((((((((((((((((((( and so forth, the constant incessant posting, overall approach, grammar, etc is so similar I can't help but think it's the same person.

I mean, he has to know that no one's going to give him a couple million NEM, especially with this childish behaviour.. All his points have been shot down in great detail (thanks jabo38), and he's been a bit of a jerk from the get-go, lobbing accusations before even trying to resolve the 'issue'. If he truly was looking for a solution, no sensible person would approach is this way.. Plus the suddenly INSANE level of activity after 2 years of total silence on the account, and just a single day of activity 2 years ago - it's just SO obvious that it's a sockpuppet account.. Plus - no sign that this person ever posted anything pertaining to NEM before a few days ago. It's just about impossible to believe that this is his sole and primary account, and that his story is true.

Plus, if you lost a $25 investment, how many hours would you spend freaking out about it? If he's really in finance, he'd realize that there's no ROI in this behaviour. Clearly trolling just as he has several times using his other sockpuppet accounts to try to bring prices down by tainting the tone of discourse on this thread.



Queue the mocked-up shock & insult and a series of consecutive posts saying nothing new and possibly attacking me directly:
I don't now about damnac and CECVW, but tuxlik 100% russian speaking guy. he use google translate. So i don't think that he is the same person as damnac and CECVW.
And about that 25 dollars we speaking about? Nxt price was 0.7 cents, so max price was 5 dollars(750nxt).

upd. oops my fault. 25. That was sooo long ago)))
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May 02, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
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Thanks Jabo38 for your good explanation of NEMs Advanced capabilities!

Glad Tuxl is sick now, so quiet...

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Tuxl man, u r much 2 late. sry!
back in the day we could have many many sockpuppets, I had many and I didnt have any issues.
The sockpuppet cleanup was good but not perfect.
U werent smart enough and u were too late. Life punishes those who delay.
just buy cheap XEM

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May 02, 2016, 09:12:27 PM
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So, Tuxlsik is just another account of the person behind damnac and CECVW right? Just more sockpuppet accounts getting dug up by a grumpy troll? While there's clearly some differences in specific things, such as the AAAAAAAA(((((((((((((((((((( and so forth, the constant incessant posting, overall approach, grammar, etc is so similar I can't help but think it's the same person.

- How do you think in the primitive. Are you looking for an excuse to his desires to see me sockpuppet. And do not even try to at least one line to understand the person experiencing the shock. You know the word - empathy? The ability to understand and feel what the other person is going through? It will not hurt to study this issue, they say it helps in your personal life. Otherwise, the person who lives next to you will be very hard. You will not be able to understand and feel. You will only know their opinions and desires. Another is called ego-centrism.

I mean, he has to know that no one's going to give him a couple million NEM, especially with this childish behaviour.. All his points have been shot down in great detail (thanks jabo38), and he's been a bit of a jerk from the get-go, lobbing accusations before even trying to resolve the 'issue'. If he truly was looking for a solution, no sensible person would approach is this way..

- The same judge ... you much. Probably on its own? Other general in your worldview have a chance to be different? I have absolutely clear and simple logic behavior. From shock to appeal to conduct a dialogue with me, not accusations and attempts to understand me. With the same success I can say that your behavior Neanderthal logic. You lash out at me like animals. Maybe you are used to another, but alas, there are other people and their behavior, learn to be considered that besides you there are other people.

Plus the suddenly INSANE level of activity after 2 years of total silence on the account, and just a single day of activity 2 years ago - it's just SO obvious that it's a sockpuppet account.. Plus - no sign that this person ever posted anything pertaining to NEM before a few days ago. It's just about impossible to believe that this is his sole and primary account, and that his story is true.

Plus, if you lost a $25 investment, how many hours would you spend freaking out about it? If he's really in finance, he'd realize that there's no ROI in this behaviour. Clearly trolling just as he has several times using his other sockpuppet accounts to try to bring prices down by tainting the tone of discourse on this thread.



Queue the mocked-up shock & insult and a series of consecutive posts saying nothing new and possibly attacking me directly:



- This is the weakness of your evaluation criteria sockpuppet akkunt. Therefore, I need to give me a list of evaluation criteria.

I'm a real investor, with 1 steak. Account created for security. To no spamming it that no one has tracked it. So I was calm.
You forbid me my security? Or you can take responsibility for my safety?

The criteria for determining your sockpuppet akkunt there is a loophole, which was used by the developers to remove a huge amount of stekholderov.
Get money for the development of all they were ready and happy to - and to fulfill its obligations - did not want to. And most of the stekholderov - destroyed. Under these fake verification criteria.

Ask yourself a simple question.
How can the two exist without contradicting the thesis of developers:
1. Make a contribution yourself, tell friends and acquaintances (meaning thereby broadening its audience to collect the largest possible amount of money).
2. All accounts with no posts will be considered sockpuppet akkunt and will be removed.

Question:
- How can a man who was invited to act?
- How will the brother or sister, mother or grandmother, a friend in the backyard, or a friend who does not understand cryptocurrency?

options:
1. They will try to do everything yourself. Zavedut account, buy your share of the tip will follow the news, activate accounts. Some of them have something to ask, others do not. But at the same time they will be real and honest investors.
2. They will be asked to do it for them, because you educated and know more.
You can make a purchase from you, but you will be accused of is that you buy a lot of shares, or create a new account and will be working with him. In any case, you will be at risk, according to your criteria.
3. One man himself, buying a share in the coin may be autistic, not ready to talk and communicate. He has the right to be so, and you also remove, although it will be a real investor.
4. The student has 6 classmates. He spoke at a lecture on the coin, and inspired all 6 want to invest. What student? Buy the 7 steaks should not be - it will be condemned as a sockpuppet akkunt. It is necessary to open new accounts. But it will not lead and communicate with them, it's stupid. And their emissions.
He can tell a friend - delve yourself, but friends have an account can only execute instructions that they rekomendut main one. They do not need to write messages. They sacrificed to 1 share and gave life to the coin. And how to behave - it is their own business, you can not force people to do what they can not or are not able or do not want. They can pay, can carry out the instructions, but to prove that they were not sheep, they are not required. In the world of the basic principle is valid - prezumchiya innocence. The investment the investor - a saint. It is important and the foundation. And blaming it can only be with substantial evidence. Lack of account activity - a tiny proof. But a great excuse to cut out all the unwanted after collecting money.

I can still list the options, but life is generally more diverse. And this diversity of options is not taken into account.

In my own case, it was the desire to make themselves safe. I opened a new account for yourself, and bought one steak. The second was bought for his brother. More I do not have steaks. In correspondence with the team, I immediately said that I'm his brother and his share account. We talked, sorry I erased the conversation. I sent tokens.
Upon activation, I recorded the data on the USB flash drive. Save it. Because at the time of the creation of a purse, a private key and a public key message was unequivocal - the guys, all right, wait for 2-3 weeks starting. It was in November 2014. I was waiting for the launch. Calmly and confidently. Because everything had to be done.

Why I did not activate your account and did not look through before?
Everything is very simple.
I was afraid of losing keys or viruses that I have a pack of a private key.
I thought that activate at the time of launch does not make sense, because I was going to keep the NEM for a long time, a year or two for sure, because this is a cycle of growth from coins.
I waited for the moment when the course becomes a little beneficial to start spending a little. The course grew, I decided to use the coins, try to activate as meaning there was - was anything possible to buy it. And it turned out that the account is empty. Because someone decided to remove me.

And no one did not answer me at which point I was removed?
And how such criteria?

I consider myself stekholderom rightly.
And those who are trying to convince me to the contrary - scammers robbed me of my share.

Do you understand my logic? Selfishness is able to understand the other person?






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May 02, 2016, 09:16:05 PM
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Tuxl man, u r much 2 late. sry!
back in the day we could have many many sockpuppets, I had many and I didnt have any issues.
The sockpuppet cleanup was good but not perfect.
U werent smart enough and u were too late. Life punishes those who delay.
just buy cheap XEM

~CfA

You dig a deeper hole, favoring chaos and irresponsibility of leaders. I see that you are not smart enough and wise to understand it.
His approval you allow them to think. Allow them to deceive you. You convince themselves that they are not liable. Themselves sell them with impunity to do with you. It's like shooting yourself in the foot. This can be done only idiots or those who were convinced that they were slaves, and to blame themselves, and have no other responsibility. You are a great slave.
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