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 Not sure whether the writer of the article is just incompetent or whether they fear NEM's superiority.  In either case it's very bad journalism, obviously written by someone who should work for a celebrity rumour magazine instead rather than crypto.
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I like to speculate
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tyz
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May 06, 2016, 07:10:59 PM |
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Take it easy! Coindesk was always a place what was not a friend of Java-based blockchain solutions. I remember when Coindesk has completely ignored Nxt, even on times when it has had a market capitalization of 50-80 million $. Coindesk authors are pro C(++). This is what I call ignorance and irresponsible journalism. Ought to be hung.
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Tuxlsik
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May 06, 2016, 07:29:27 PM |
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Take it easy! Coindesk was always a place what was not a friend of Java-based blockchain solutions. I remember when Coindesk has completely ignored Nxt, even on times when it has had a market capitalization of 50-80 million $. Coindesk authors are pro C(++). This is what I call ignorance and irresponsible journalism. Ought to be hung. The fact that society does to me, this is - "This is what I call ignorance and irresponsible"
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May 06, 2016, 07:34:33 PM |
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." I didn´t know that we are already that far.
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May 06, 2016, 07:45:00 PM |
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I did not get answers to your questions: - Where the methodology and criteria for removal stekholderov? - When I was removed? In what month?
To these questions there is one: - Where information about the fund that was created to restore the share stekholderov deleted by mistake. I was told that there was such a fund.
And yet, my health deteriorated. The lack of answers, and the expulsion of aggressive pressure has a strong moral pressure. I still do not understand why I was denied my right to my share.
I have not broken anything. I made a payment, for I do not rely steak. After all activations me nespravedllivo removed. This is similar to splanirovannny deception. I've seen people come in shock with the same question to you. What have you done with very, very large number of people - this is bad.
You must close the moral aspect of the problem before stekholderami before you can think about the stable development coin. With such moral sins - the road to the development will be.
Nobody cares about you or your questions mate, go make slow love to yourself.
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gentlemand
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May 06, 2016, 07:46:26 PM |
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Take it easy! Coindesk was always a place what was not a friend of Java-based blockchain solutions. I remember when Coindesk has completely ignored Nxt, even on times when it has had a market capitalization of 50-80 million $. Coindesk authors are pro C(++).
Why on Earth would a website be prejudiced against a, er, programming language?
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May 06, 2016, 07:53:56 PM |
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Take it easy! Coindesk was always a place what was not a friend of Java-based blockchain solutions. I remember when Coindesk has completely ignored Nxt, even on times when it has had a market capitalization of 50-80 million $. Coindesk authors are pro C(++).
Why on Earth would a website be prejudiced against a, er, programming language? Because back then, POS was considered to be hog-wash, and totally against the spirit of a viable crypto currency.
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May 06, 2016, 08:07:24 PM |
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 Not sure whether the writer of the article is just incompetent or whether they fear NEM's superiority.  In either case it's very bad journalism, obviously written by someone who should work for a celebrity rumour magazine instead rather than crypto. Since he works for a 'Ether based project' , it's obvious he fears NEM's rise and potential!
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May 06, 2016, 08:23:10 PM |
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WTF is DigixDAO??? Pushed us back to #9  It's an eGold DAO running on the Ethereum Network.
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NEM : TAFTFJ-JJ4XTW-FNYZU7-HZR2Y2-RXIKEW-QIOWFJ-WM4N
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May 06, 2016, 10:17:35 PM |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts.
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May 07, 2016, 12:00:47 AM Last edit: May 07, 2016, 12:13:41 AM by SydorFunk |
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WTF is DigixDAO??? Pushed us back to #9  It's an eGold DAO running on the Ethereum Network. eGold schemes are decades older than Bitcoin and all of them ended up as scams, got raided by legal authorities or never attained adoption. Reinventing an old broken wheel on blockchain is comical. A lot of these Ethereum Dapps / Crowdfunds don't look any different than NXT's asset exchange. Which ultimately will hurt Ethereum's creditability when these entities will fail.
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May 07, 2016, 03:10:56 AM |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts. at some point (100K?) people will threaten to lawyer up to get their stakes, like the Winklevii did with FB. At what marketcap is a NEM stake of ~2M coins worth going to court over? Could banned socks sell their 'claims' to a vulture fund? If you look at what UP actually said when NEM was launched there was some obvious back peddling on the rules & policy on the run. Could be very interesting to hear a lawyers opinion on the chances of fighting for a stake worth 1M USD
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May 07, 2016, 03:53:00 AM |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts. at some point (100K?) people will threaten to lawyer up to get their stakes, like the Winklevii did with FB. At what marketcap is a NEM stake of ~2M coins worth going to court over? Could banned socks sell their 'claims' to a vulture fund? If you look at what UP actually said when NEM was launched there was some obvious back peddling on the rules & policy on the run. Could be very interesting to hear a lawyers opinion on the chances of fighting for a stake worth 1M USD NEM is a non entity. There is no locus standi. Hence it won't hold water in court.
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May 07, 2016, 04:29:47 AM |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts. at some point (100K?) people will threaten to lawyer up to get their stakes, like the Winklevii did with FB. At what marketcap is a NEM stake of ~2M coins worth going to court over? Could banned socks sell their 'claims' to a vulture fund? If you look at what UP actually said when NEM was launched there was some obvious back peddling on the rules & policy on the run. Could be very interesting to hear a lawyers opinion on the chances of fighting for a stake worth 1M USD NEM is a non entity. There is no locus standi. Hence it won't hold water in court. You might be right ... I don't know. The more valuable NEM becomes the greater the chance someone will at least consider trying this, especially as the coins still exist in community controlled accounts, so there's still a hypothetical chance of someone recovering them, and there's a possibility of finding UP who set everything in motion.
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May 07, 2016, 06:33:35 AM |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts. at some point (100K?) people will threaten to lawyer up to get their stakes, like the Winklevii did with FB. At what marketcap is a NEM stake of ~2M coins worth going to court over? Could banned socks sell their 'claims' to a vulture fund? If you look at what UP actually said when NEM was launched there was some obvious back peddling on the rules & policy on the run. Could be very interesting to hear a lawyers opinion on the chances of fighting for a stake worth 1M USD NEM is a non entity. There is no locus standi. Hence it won't hold water in court. You might be right ... I don't know. The more valuable NEM becomes the greater the chance someone will at least consider trying this, especially as the coins still exist in community controlled accounts, so there's still a hypothetical chance of someone recovering them, and there's a possibility of finding UP who set everything in motion. Under what jurisdiction should that be? This is all too difficult. There wasn't anything to start with and there were clear instructions to follow then.
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May 07, 2016, 07:15:50 AM Last edit: May 07, 2016, 07:38:45 AM by kennyP |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts. at some point (100K?) people will threaten to lawyer up to get their stakes, like the Winklevii did with FB. At what marketcap is a NEM stake of ~2M coins worth going to court over? Could banned socks sell their 'claims' to a vulture fund? If you look at what UP actually said when NEM was launched there was some obvious back peddling on the rules & policy on the run. Could be very interesting to hear a lawyers opinion on the chances of fighting for a stake worth 1M USD NEM is a non entity. There is no locus standi. Hence it won't hold water in court. You might be right ... I don't know. The more valuable NEM becomes the greater the chance someone will at least consider trying this, especially as the coins still exist in community controlled accounts, so there's still a hypothetical chance of someone recovering them, and there's a possibility of finding UP who set everything in motion. Under what jurisdiction should that be? This is all too difficult. There wasn't anything to start with and there were clear instructions to follow then. It's difficult now, and not worth bothering with until a NEM stake was worth many multiples more than it is today, but later it might be. I'm just speculating here, but the 'law' is not about right & wrong, or morality, it's another thing entirely ... what outcome can be achieved in a court of law. I speculate the jurisdiction would likely be wherever UP was based (USA? .. didn't he claim to be an academic working on a PhD), and his early posts from Jan 2014 on NEM would be hugely relevant to whether later stakeholder culling broke any 'contracts' and were thus was 'illegal'. USA is very litigious society, so it's possible someone there would consider this if the money at stake was large, especially if UP's identity was known. edit: how would this statement from UP be interpreted legally in the USA? 
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May 07, 2016, 09:21:46 AM |
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Will be interesting to see how strongly they protest when nem increases in value even more. At 3k sats they will be hordes.
Probably not. Ever since I joined this thread, there've only been two or perhaps three including the latest contenda. There's a theoretical upper bound; it can't be more than the number of deemed sockpuppets during the cleanouts. at some point (100K?) people will threaten to lawyer up to get their stakes, like the Winklevii did with FB. At what marketcap is a NEM stake of ~2M coins worth going to court over? Could banned socks sell their 'claims' to a vulture fund? If you look at what UP actually said when NEM was launched there was some obvious back peddling on the rules & policy on the run. Could be very interesting to hear a lawyers opinion on the chances of fighting for a stake worth 1M USD NEM is a non entity. There is no locus standi. Hence it won't hold water in court. You might be right ... I don't know. The more valuable NEM becomes the greater the chance someone will at least consider trying this, especially as the coins still exist in community controlled accounts, so there's still a hypothetical chance of someone recovering them, and there's a possibility of finding UP who set everything in motion. Under what jurisdiction should that be? This is all too difficult. There wasn't anything to start with and there were clear instructions to follow then. It's difficult now, and not worth bothering with until a NEM stake was worth many multiples more than it is today, but later it might be. I'm just speculating here, but the 'law' is not about right & wrong, or morality, it's another thing entirely ... what outcome can be achieved in a court of law. I speculate the jurisdiction would likely be wherever UP was based (USA? .. didn't he claim to be an academic working on a PhD), and his early posts from Jan 2014 on NEM would be hugely relevant to whether later stakeholder culling broke any 'contracts' and were thus was 'illegal'. USA is very litigious society, so it's possible someone there would consider this if the money at stake was large, especially if UP's identity was known. edit: how would this statement from UP be interpreted legally in the USA?  Well, the fact is, UP disappeared from here. For all you know he may be reading these posts, but no one will ever care to trace him. It will be between him and whoever and whichever jurisdiction.
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May 07, 2016, 10:22:01 AM |
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Is any court going to care the slightest about an arrangement that happened years ago between anonymous people on an obscure forum with zero formal structure? I think they have better things to do with their time.
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May 07, 2016, 12:24:12 PM |
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Never mind and let them alone do anything. They will obtain nothing, and lose everything - time, energy, and money....
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May 07, 2016, 06:32:39 PM |
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Never mind and let them alone do anything. They will obtain nothing, and lose everything - time, energy, and money....
, Your stupidity and carelessness can be compared only with your cynicism. @team NEM should seriously consider my words. Are you waiting for that I will soon disappear? You are violating the rights stekholderov wildly, people who have sent you money to create coins. You must be a fund for the restoration of fair share stekholderov.
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