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May 01, 2016, 06:46:14 PM
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Your share expired. Live with it. There were uncountable mails and pms regarding the deadlines. If you don't care for your share for over one year, well, that's your personal fault.

+1000!  Smiley


You understand what conclusion fissile developers, leaders in other coins?

"They see impunity, lawlessness and permissiveness - the possibility of fraud. And they will deceive the greater will be cynical to the limit. And no one will be able to you, personally, to protect you when you get into trouble.

You know how you hook ratio imbalance and create?
You understand that the adoption of cryptocurrency society, and hence its tremendous growth, your approach murderous? You do not understand this?"
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You do not see this hypocrisy?

At the time of the request for assistance, involving stakeholders, developers courtesy itself, the word of justice, fairness and joint problem solving are pouring out of their mouths like a horn of plenty.

Then there is a thousand reasons to reduce the number of stakeholders? Do I understand correctly that you removed us? And I did not get a response when it was? In what month? I repeat that went through all the stages of authorization and do not know when this was your infernal time of disposal. They did not substantially answered!

And then, get the desired you turn into prosecutors and prosecutors, with sarcasm, cynicism and malevolence. You are kidding me. Humiliates me. Man who believed in the NEM, which lay down, and was the founder of the coin.

Do you realize what you're doing?





When and who initiated the removal of the stakeholders?
Who came up with this monstrous Ofer in the head?
On what basis I was removed?

I want to understand this.

I now see that my share just stolen because someone really wanted to get it. And this was invented by Ofer, I want to understand what you are guided in this deception.

I need to restore justice and my part of the NEM.
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May 01, 2016, 07:11:12 PM
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Дa кaк жe ты yжe зaeбaл Sad
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May 01, 2016, 07:37:19 PM
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What is the nem address you turned in anyway? (just to check if it is really empty)
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NBQPJ2-KEWDIG-BGKCFD-H7Z5RH-EXPUVB-P7ZPJR-JGKI

@team

So was this address ever turned in or what (I already checked that it's empty)?   Undecided


When activated, the private key in the account was - 0,00 NEM


I am a stakeholder. I passed all activation and registration. Prior to the start was two weeks as announced. I recorded the data on the USB flash drive and waited for the launch. What time do not sign up and watched what was happening in the British branch, as this is not my native language, and in our branch information debts. And I do not know at what time I was expelled? Removed? I do not understand this!

You wrote - start 2-3 weeks, wait! I waited and kept the room key and without exposing them to the risk, not to lose ahead of time from viruses. In our country, the law prohibits taking summer cryptocurrency, so I decided to take advantage of while there is time. I activated and see the account 0,00 NEM. You can imagine my state?
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May 01, 2016, 07:46:33 PM
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@Tuxlsik

I know you don´t like it but there is a 0.00% chance to get "your" coins. NO CHANCE!!!

NO CHANCE!!!

So please, accept it.

INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table (1)
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May 01, 2016, 07:53:48 PM
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@Tuxlsik

I know you don´t like it but there is a 0.00% chance to get "your" coins. NO CHANCE!!!

NO CHANCE!!!

So please, accept it.

If I had listened to the arguments at the time of NEM - "is losing a coin, it has no future," would not have invested, and did not believe in it. I invested and it is!

I believe that nothing is impossible, and still believe that the NEM I did not give up and do not give up. I have no other coins, I do not have a single NEM, and I can not accept that you have thrown me.

I do not want to be consonant with the state that says that the community itself can not organize themselves and protect the interests and safety. I do not want to give them a precedent for bone conviction in their arguments. I believe the community as well as trust in the beginning.

Help me please!!!!!
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May 01, 2016, 10:07:50 PM
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Interesting read...sounds like more problems in BTC land. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4h9pny/once_a_predetermined_number_of_coins_have_entered/

Time for NEM to pounce!!   Grin
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May 01, 2016, 11:41:04 PM
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This Tuxlsik fella is funny. But one of many....or maybe, one who is many.


Don't let the door hit you on your way out.



Geeze, sick of all these shittalkers who come out of the woodwork now suddenly demanding their NEM. Anyone with two braincells would've seen it coming.

To all future lazy investors, scammers and fudsters - got a NEMstake? Didn't check it at all? Missed the deadline? Oh? Family member sick? Country laws changed? No net access? - whatever the reason, thats your problem. Your loss. Goodbye.
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May 02, 2016, 03:03:52 AM
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This is a classic trolling event with the intention to devalue NEM and to cast doubt of the integrity of this movement to all new interested parties that read this thread.  I find it very difficult to believe that someone would put forth the time and effort to develop on this platform and insist that they complied with all of the rules and then abandon that work for months or a year(s). 

The Trolling Handbook Toolbox Road Map

1. I followed all of your rules.  Cry
2. You failed to make me aware of changes.  Cry
3. An illness stopped me from working on this (but not my professional job)  Lips sealed
4. You stole from me.  Cry
5. You cannot be trusted.  Cry
6. I want justice.  Cry

He covered that pretty well.  Did I miss anything?  Roll Eyes

+1
Best thing we can all do is hit ignore and stop feeding the troll!

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May 02, 2016, 07:15:40 AM
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If I had listened to the arguments at the time of NEM - "is losing a coin, it has no future," would not have invested, and did not believe in it. I invested and it is!

I believe that nothing is impossible, and still believe that the NEM I did not give up and do not give up. I have no other coins, I do not have a single NEM, and I can not accept that you have thrown me.

I do not want to be consonant with the state that says that the community itself can not organize themselves and protect the interests and safety. I do not want to give them a precedent for bone conviction in their arguments. I believe the community as well as trust in the beginning.

Help me please!!!!!

So, what happened to this address that you owned - NACGGR-FZDT4A-F4A56S-RWLCUX-JFCQ4E-US6GO3-PWLD? Aren't you complaining about that too?
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This is a classic trolling event with the intention to devalue NEM and to cast doubt of the integrity of this movement to all new interested parties that read this thread.  I find it very difficult to believe that someone would put forth the time and effort to develop on this platform and insist that they complied with all of the rules and then abandon that work for months or a year(s). 

The Trolling Handbook Toolbox Road Map

1. I followed all of your rules.  Cry
2. You failed to make me aware of changes.  Cry
3. An illness stopped me from working on this (but not my professional job)  Lips sealed
4. You stole from me.  Cry
5. You cannot be trusted.  Cry
6. I want justice.  Cry

He covered that pretty well.  Did I miss anything?  Roll Eyes

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Best thing we can all do is hit ignore and stop feeding the troll!

You laugh at my pain.
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May 02, 2016, 07:47:18 AM
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This Tuxlsik fella is funny. But one of many....or maybe, one who is many.


Don't let the door hit you on your way out.



Geeze, sick of all these shittalkers who come out of the woodwork now suddenly demanding their NEM. Anyone with two braincells would've seen it coming.

To all future lazy investors, scammers and fudsters - got a NEMstake? Didn't check it at all? Missed the deadline? Oh? Family member sick? Country laws changed? No net access? - whatever the reason, thats your problem. Your loss. Goodbye.

You, too, against me.

Organizers of why you do not protect your stekholdera ?!
I have made money since its inception, I have fulfilled all the requirements and instructions, you threw me and I demand an answer when it happened Huh !!!

where my part of NEM?!
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May 02, 2016, 07:51:59 AM
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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.
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May 02, 2016, 07:54:56 AM
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I repeat once again.

I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.
The developers were developing thanks to the money of investors.
I have completed all reactivate your account. The developers have taken all of my activation.
At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.


@team  I warn you. Take my words seriously. I see that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation.
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May 02, 2016, 08:13:58 AM
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Let's stop the discussion, it will lead nowhere.
Anyone who has no account in the nemesis block, will not be able to claim his/her coins now.

Nothing Else Matters
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May 02, 2016, 08:28:10 AM
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Let's stop the discussion, it will lead nowhere.
Anyone who has no account in the nemesis block, will not be able to claim his/her coins now.


No, this is just the beginning of a normal discussion. Thank you for the beginning.

I have some questions.

1. Why am I not on the list? (On what basis was removed?).
2. Your words are now contrary to the developers. You ensure recovery in case of errors.
3. You are risking to convince me and others that you deceived me for money.
- I invested money.
- For my money, as well as other investors, developers can create value.
- Who is the equivalent of my real money is now in the NEM.
- My investment was not returned, she remained in the project.
- You can not escape responsibility for their actions. You deleted me, tried, and took a serious decision. You should have foreseen that remove this investor for his mistake. You had to think seriously about protecting the rights of its investors. You are obliged to respect the investor.
- When you have removed the investors, have you thought about ways to solve problems related to your error?
- MY REAL MONEY NOW IS IN IT, WHETHER IS I in the list or not.
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May 02, 2016, 08:34:50 AM
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I repeat once again.

You repeat too much.  You have had this explained to you many times.  The jumping up and down and stamping you feet doesn't do anything. 


I NEM investor.
I paid the money to the developers.

No, you weren't.  You were a NEM donator, not an investor. And you donated to a guy that isn't even in NEM anymore.  The call for donations was very clearly explained to be donations not ICO. 

At some point I was removed from the list.
I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You have been told you were a sock puppet.  Anybody can look at your account and when it was born for a give away along with your "brothers" account that was born for a give away.  Both accounts had a few posts and fell asleep there after.  So you were very clearly flagged as a sock puppet.  It was because NEM took so much time researching each investor that it got a fair distribution.

Nobody has sympathy for you because anybody can click on your account history and find out, "yes, it clearly is a sock account."

I do not understand what you have the right to remove me ?!

You understand my question? I have a right to know.

You weren't an investor, there was a call for participation and you were a donater to a guy that isn't here anymore.  He spent all of the money donated to him and none of the core team or devs ever received any of it. 

You have no chance getting your stake as everyone has told you.  You are a year too late for that.  Next time I would ask you to watch your donations better.  A good faith effort was made to be fair to all the real people by kicking out sock puppets, and then be fair to the sock puppets (which your account clearly is) to have a protest period, many of which were granted some XEM.  You missed that window that went on for months.  That isn't the devs fault, it is yours.  You are going to have to live with it. 

And the way you are handling yourself is counter productive.

At the time you invested, you would have invested about 350 NXT.  At today's prices that is all of $2.50, but to be fair back then it was about $25.  So in one way you can look at that you lost $25 or in another way you can think of it as losing $2.50.  But still, look at this account.  http://chain.nem.ninja/#/search/NCITYX-64R3VN-3M7IS4-53RMXZ-BJS7BR-QIHBGZ-JYQV

That is an account of a guy that lost his stake, came into the NEM community and was really cool about it and took responsibility and owned that he should have paid more careful attention to his donation.  The result is that people donated more than $75 to him in XEM.  That could have been you.  It won't be. 

If you continue to troll, you posts will be deleted.  We almost never moderate this thread and let people speak their minds and criticize and even get angry, but you have said your part and gotten your answer.  It is time to accept it and move on. 





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May 02, 2016, 08:50:21 AM
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1. Why am I not on the list? (On what basis was removed?).
You account was flagged as a sock puppet. 

2. Your words are now contrary to the developers. You ensure recovery in case of errors.

No, they aren't.  It was a call for participation and donations.  What kind of ICO gives out coins for logos?Huh

- For my money, as well as other investors, developers can create value.
Your $25 donation helped pay for the NCC.  It is now open source, so feel free to use it, fork it, and get your value back.  You helped make that possible.


- Who is the equivalent of my real money is now in the NEM.

His name is Uptopian Future.  He got the money, handled the money, and spent the money.  None of which went to NEM devs.  Feel free to complain to him. This is not the right place.

- My investment was not returned, she remained in the project.

There was a window to ask for your donation back.  A long window.  You missed it.
 
- You can not escape responsibility for their actions. You deleted me, tried, and took a serious decision. You should have foreseen that remove this investor for his mistake. You had to think seriously about protecting the rights of its investors. You are obliged to respect the investor.
- When you have removed the investors, have you thought about ways to solve problems related to your error?

There was no error.  You were correctly removed.  As well as the other accounts like yours. 

- MY REAL MONEY NOW IS IN IT, WHETHER IS I in the list or not.

No, none of your money went into being paid to any of the people that working on NEM today to make it what it is.   



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I will say again.  You have had your questions answered.  It is time to move on. 

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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.

Man, it is time to really take a look around about what is happening.  The core NIS for NEM is so much more advanced than Bitcoin.  You are saying that companies won't build on NEM, that is so last year, because this year they actually ARE building on NEM.  http://techbureau.jp/ Tech Bureau just got $5,000,000 in funding.  Their main product is Mijin, built with NEM technology, and the only chain ever to be certified by a real bank doing independent 3rd party stress tests of millions of accounts with millions of transactions a day and not faulting.  Bitcoin can't even do 1/10 of that and Mijin was in low safe gear for that test.

You think that Bitcoin will someday be ready and someday get business.  You think that people don't know what to do with the blockchain.  Actually..... there are A LOT of very smart people with resources and funds to build great blockchain projects, its just that Bitcoin was so slow, so clunky, and so hard to work with that they were sitting around waiting.  Ethereum and NEM are proving that together. Bitcoin needs to adapt or get left behind (and I say that as a person that owns a lot of BTC).

DF just signed a deal to work with Infoteria.  Infoteria provides software to over 5000 medium to large size companies and they want a blockchain to be a part of their enterprise software suite.  Maybe you have heard of some of those companies that use Infoteria as their software suite like Sony, Panasonic, and Mitsubishi?

Not only does NEM scale better than Bitcoin.  It has namespaces built into the core (like namespaces but better).  It has mosaics built into the core (like counter party but better).  It has encrypted messaging built into the core (is there even a fork of bitcoin doing that?).  And it has so many other things.  

NEM has a long line of firsts.  

  • A new consensus mechanism called POI.
  • First ever P2P time sync of nodes. (great for security of the chain)
  • First use of the Eigentrust++ as a security clustering algorithm allowing node reputations to be given and shared to their neighbor nodes in clusters, making it very difficult for a node to give false information consistently to the network. (great for security of the network)
  • First use of a new kind of transaction spam guard. It targets the specific accounts doing the spamming and raises their transaction fees, while letting the global transaction fee rate stay low. (good for the chain)
  • First blockchain with a multisig 2.0 protocol. NEM’s version of multisig doesn’t make new accounts for a multisig address, instead it takes an existing account and makes a contract over it with other accounts. This form of multi-user accounts can make any form of M of N with ease and can also can have the M or the N edited with ease as it is simply just updating the meta data of the blockchain based contract. This form of multisig also has blockchain based notifications so transactions or updates of the M of N are pushed to the wallets as transactions to sign. (great security and ease of use for the user. simply the easiest and most flexible multisig in crypto)
  • NEM’s multisig is so easy and flexible to use, it can be used as a foundational tool for DAO’s.
  • Mosaics are the most advanced token creation feature in crypto allowing for many advanced 2.0 features.  When creating personalized blockchain based tokens, the mosaic can be created as mutable, immutable, divisible, not divisible, levies, transferable, not transferable, descriptions, and a name as a part of namespaces. (great for businesses)
  • Along with mosaics, NEM also released its new naming service, Namespace, that is also the most advanced and most integrated naming service of any blockchain. (great for reputation of businesses that build on NEM as all projects can be under an umbrella name or or even sub-domains)

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1. Why am I not on the list? (On what basis was removed?).
You account was flagged as a sock puppet.


- Where can I study the criteria for getting on this list?
- Who was the list of criteria?

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2. Your words are now contrary to the developers. You ensure recovery in case of errors.

No, they aren't.  It was a call for participation and donations.  What kind of ICO gives out coins for logos?Huh

This is a weak argument. The case of the failure of the project and its successful development implies different outcomes. Besides, you are kicked out of the donor from the list and only care about their own interests in a public project.
Do you think other donors or investors or the general public will be pleased to hear these arguments toy?


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- For my money, as well as other investors, developers can create value.
Your $25 donation helped pay for the NCC.  It is now open source, so feel free to use it, fork it, and get your value back.  You helped make that possible.


That's right, "You helped make that possible", I was able to make it possible to NEM, and was unjustly thrown out like a puppy in a landfill. Very nice attitude to stekholderu.

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- Who is the equivalent of my real money is now in the NEM.

His name is Uptopian Future.  He got the money, handled the money, and spent the money.  None of which went to NEM devs.  Feel free to complain to him. This is not the right place.

This argument is weak, you want to avoid responsibility, to shift everything to the other. You do not "scapegoat", right? Let's talk seriously. The money was taken from them via NEM took place, I was thrown out.


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- My investment was not returned, she remained in the project.

There was a window to ask for your donation back.  A long window.  You missed it.

I missed that? I do not understand.
I made a contribution, you guarantee me a lot. I activated all that was needed, you kicked me.

You blame me that I did not come back after a kick and not framed left cheek?

I came to get a share, instead of being thrown for no apparent reason. I was not going to return, and have not seen and do not see the need.

Write an advertisement for the next set, "Give us the money we on them will do the coin Then we'll throw you possible within a limited time, we will refund your money if you have time, but at a fraction of the coin you not count, because we are it'll take.... Me. And now let their money! "

Be honest, hypocritical, right? But that's how it looks.


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- You can not escape responsibility for their actions. You deleted me, tried, and took a serious decision. You should have foreseen that remove this investor for his mistake. You had to think seriously about protecting the rights of its investors. You are obliged to respect the investor.
- When you have removed the investors, have you thought about ways to solve problems related to your error?

There was no error.  You were correctly removed.  As well as the other accounts like yours. 

Correctly? Are you joking?

I am a normal investor, I have one share. I kicked, I'm completely at a loss and protest. It is not normal. And you say that I've been removed right?

You know how it sounds? "- Invest and we will remove you when we want and how we want and it will be correct.

You're out of your mind?


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- MY REAL MONEY NOW IS IN IT, WHETHER IS I in the list or not.

No, none of your money went into being paid to any of the people that working on NEM today to make it what it is.   

They went to the base of the coin. They let those who are working now work at all. If not for my money, and others, would nebylo anything. This is the foundation.
And you threw me unjustly!


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I will say again.  You have had your questions answered.  It is time to move on. 

Thanks for answers. But it is not the end. I'm waiting for answers to their questions in the beginning. And do not plug my mouth, please.
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