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gaazje
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September 09, 2014, 05:15:36 PM |
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░▒▓█ / / /X42/ / / WELCOME TO FEELESS FUTURE! █▓▒░
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dandruff1138
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September 09, 2014, 05:44:32 PM |
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how about a little cube.
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amytheplanarshift
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September 09, 2014, 06:15:30 PM |
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Regarding the discussion about the currency symbol, I'll copy and paste what I wrote on the NEM forums here for everyone to discuss. Theoretically a vote should not cause any drama. The majority wins, end of story. This is how a democratic system works. However, with that being said, having a community vote on something like this may be flawed, and I will explain why. I've seen many other cryptocurrencies voting on things related to design and aesthetics. However, the reality is that most people here and in general have no experience in this field. Art and design is a specialized field, just like anything else. Having a vote on something like a logo or a currency symbol is something that should be left up to a trusted professional. Otherwise, it would be like voting on specific changes to the codebase when the majority of the community does not even know the first thing about coding. Many people refuse to believe that art/design is something that can only be done by a professional. Everyone thinks they just inherently know what looks good and what does not, but that simply is not true. I feel that any decision for NEM related to design aesthetics be left to a trusted professional in that field, or at least someone who has demonstrated that they have the knowledge required to make those decisions. People are always going to complain about such a decision because it does not fit what they feel looks good in their eyes. But those are untrained eyes, and such an opinion should be completely disregarded (at least, that's how I feel about it). I only say this as someone who has a faint background in art and design (I am an artist in my spare time and have a bit of formal training), and I know all too well how people without the requisite training can be severely misguided in terms of what makes an effective design and what does not. Anyway, that's just my opinion. If the community would prefer to have a vote for this sort of thing, then that is not my decision to make. Just wanted to throw my thoughts into the mix.
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peligro
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September 09, 2014, 08:57:55 PM |
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Got my NEM token on asset exchange. I will try to increase my stake by trading 0.1 of the token.
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yeyo101
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September 09, 2014, 09:13:18 PM |
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how much NEM can I get with 5k NXT on asset xchng
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schnötzel
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Bitcoin is a bit**
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September 09, 2014, 09:28:41 PM |
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gsxrl3oi
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September 10, 2014, 02:08:38 AM |
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Im interested in buying a little too. how can I set buy order at the asset exchange
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hvezdasmrti
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September 10, 2014, 11:47:33 AM |
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Bitcoin has a problem in his future - its not a green currency at all, it consumes too much energy and computing sources, there is a good gap for all PoI networks. The success of PoI based transaction network is determined by 3 things:
1) stability 2) publicity 3) sustainability
If all 3 points will be valid, there will be no reason to replace PoI in future (and there will be enough hope that PoI will be the "last" step for many years solving all imperfections of BTC PoW concept). BTC (with its old PoW concept generally) is so much successfull because it is (almost technically) stable, has a good publicity and was sustainable (and will be until it will become unpopular due to big energy and resource demand - it consumes really horrible amount of energy and production resources). There is no reason to think about bitcoin demission and it wouldnt bring anything positive for market in general. Its comparable to MMORPG games, old concept may coexist with new concepts and be relativelly independent, however only new concept will grow up, the old one will stagnate and being slowly demised for many years (look at world of warcraft as an old obsolete concept vs. new 3D action MMORPG simulators like world of tanks or war thunder). Now compare it with crypto.
WoW = BTC, first concept, had many epigons (crypto: all PoW shitcoins and "altcoins"), many of them got some community and survived but never succeeded because they have brought nothing really new or innovative. WoT, WT = 2nd generation crypto. Projects with good innovation based on another game engine (in crypto another crypto algoritm and transaction network), another community, absolutelly different mechanics etc. and they are absolutelly independent on other projects. There is a big competition between WT and WoT (same like there is a competition between PoS currencies) because they are similar in its own generation and used by similar community.
The only question is how will be NEM going in future. Concept is good, idea excellent, question is what about the people behind it and technical backup. The crypto in general is fragmented into many projects which go nowhere or just have no credibility. This may be also good for PoI / NEM because there is a big hole waiting for anything what will fill it up.
What i really miss for now is a propagation which /my 2cent/ is a bit underestimated and below expectations adequate to initial distribution and development. Sometimes is being a little quiet more healthy and better than loudly empty promises and PnD which we know from other projects and "projects", however there are some questions which need to be solved faster than it happened. E. G. the trademark or logo - without this i cant e. g. wear a T-Shirt with NEM logo because it may be changed again. Thats are the small details which may lose the war...
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In Pump and Dump we trust.
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rockethead
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September 10, 2014, 12:44:14 PM |
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Bitcoin has a problem in his future - its not a green currency at all, it consumes too much energy and computing sources, there is a good gap for all PoI networks. The success of PoI based transaction network is determined by 3 things:
1) stability 2) publicity 3) sustainability
If all 3 points will be valid, there will be no reason to replace PoI in future (and there will be enough hope that PoI will be the "last" step for many years solving all imperfections of BTC PoW concept). BTC (with its old PoW concept generally) is so much successfull because it is (almost technically) stable, has a good publicity and was sustainable (and will be until it will become unpopular due to big energy and resource demand - it consumes really horrible amount of energy and production resources). There is no reason to think about bitcoin demission and it wouldnt bring anything positive for market in general. Its comparable to MMORPG games, old concept may coexist with new concepts and be relativelly independent, however only new concept will grow up, the old one will stagnate and being slowly demised for many years (look at world of warcraft as an old obsolete concept vs. new 3D action MMORPG simulators like world of tanks or war thunder). Now compare it with crypto.
WoW = BTC, first concept, had many epigons (crypto: all PoW shitcoins and "altcoins"), many of them got some community and survived but never succeeded because they have brought nothing really new or innovative. WoT, WT = 2nd generation crypto. Projects with good innovation based on another game engine (in crypto another crypto algoritm and transaction network), another community, absolutelly different mechanics etc. and they are absolutelly independent on other projects. There is a big competition between WT and WoT (same like there is a competition between PoS currencies) because they are similar in its own generation and used by similar community.
The only question is how will be NEM going in future. Concept is good, idea excellent, question is what about the people behind it and technical backup. The crypto in general is fragmented into many projects which go nowhere or just have no credibility. This may be also good for PoI / NEM because there is a big hole waiting for anything what will fill it up.
What i really miss for now is a propagation which /my 2cent/ is a bit underestimated and below expectations adequate to initial distribution and development. Sometimes is being a little quiet more healthy and better than loudly empty promises and PnD which we know from other projects and "projects", however there are some questions which need to be solved faster than it happened. E. G. the trademark or logo - without this i cant e. g. wear a T-Shirt with NEM logo because it may be changed again. Thats are the small details which may lose the war...
WoW and Wot, WT are all the same things, i.e., about games. PoI is only an incidental, but important component of NEM. NEM is NOT ONLY just a coin. Being a coin is only good for what it is. NEM is a platform, an ecosystem that survives on its own economy. As an example, one can make use of the NEM infrastructure to issue their own coins for their own uses. If you are some games developer you may want to have a special token for your game and you may not want to build your own altcoin which is not your focus. You can then make use of NEM's platform to issue your own coins. Leave the rest of the harvesting (mining) to the NEM community to manage that for you. Consequently, your community of game players can then propagate it among themselves. There is also a possibility that your coin has some value and therefore can be traded with other game coins or altcoins or even exchange for real money in an exchange (e.g., using AltNemo's FTE). Logo has already been decided. Trademark is not part of a decentralized movement, I am afraid. The word protectionism does not exist in a crypto initiative unless it is a private entity (which is a centralized entity). Nxt and NEM are in a different league compared with all the other altcoins, including Bitcoins. Some of them are niche while some of them have their own purpose. But if there is no ecosystem on a coin's use, it will not survive long.
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rockethead
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September 10, 2014, 12:47:59 PM |
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jabo38
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mining is so 2012-2013
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September 10, 2014, 02:35:57 PM |
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That link worked for me. It is always fun to look at my name on that list and smile. hahaha
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jabo38
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mining is so 2012-2013
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September 10, 2014, 02:39:29 PM |
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"Mining" has been out of the grasp of the average person for quite some period now.
Yep! +1 Actually I would say from the beginning. Today we have all these mining tutorials and most people still can't figure out mining. Go back 5 years and there were no mining tutorials back then (although the typical computer was certainly capable of CPU mining - but if the owner did not know how to mine then it's a moot point). This is compared to NEM where you click the harvest button and that's all it takes to get started, no tutorials (no learning curve) and you can do this on any computer. Harvesting in NEM is better than Bitcoin mining in 2009 (before people were priced out of the hardware or had to figure out ASICs, mining pools, which hardware to use, et cetera). Very good point. I tried to mine quite a few times. Came really close a couple of times with a miner actually seemingly running, but didn't get a block. I have also forged two NXT blocks just from clicking a button and leaving the client running, but both times my fees were 0. My account balance is just way to low.
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patmast3r
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September 10, 2014, 03:13:55 PM |
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"Mining" has been out of the grasp of the average person for quite some period now.
Yep! +1 Actually I would say from the beginning. Today we have all these mining tutorials and most people still can't figure out mining. Go back 5 years and there were no mining tutorials back then (although the typical computer was certainly capable of CPU mining - but if the owner did not know how to mine then it's a moot point). This is compared to NEM where you click the harvest button and that's all it takes to get started, no tutorials (no learning curve) and you can do this on any computer. Harvesting in NEM is better than Bitcoin mining in 2009 (before people were priced out of the hardware or had to figure out ASICs, mining pools, which hardware to use, et cetera). Very good point. I tried to mine quite a few times. Came really close a couple of times with a miner actually seemingly running, but didn't get a block. I have also forged two NXT blocks just from clicking a button and leaving the client running, but both times my fees were 0. My account balance is just way to low. If you have forged 2 blocks your balance can't be that low
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devphp
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September 10, 2014, 04:13:39 PM |
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If you have forged 2 blocks your balance can't be that low With 50k you should be able to forge 1 block a week on average, dispersed over time performance. It could go two-three weeks with no blocks and then hit 3 blocks in one week, that's why only longer timeframes stats can give a clear picture.
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