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October 19, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
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Merit of 8 billion NEM.(from a discussion until now)
1) Lucky number.---->popularity   --------> large  market  
2) Soon, world population become 8 billion. ----> 1 NEM per 1 person!
3) 2 million NEM per 1 stakehloder (Double NEMillionaire) -------> Half sell, still NEMillionaire ----------> Wide distribution of NEM----------> NEM's popularity & prosperity.

Somebody please show me the merit of 4 billion NEM shortly.
If he shows the more merit, I will throw away 8 billion and support 4 Billion.
Thanks in advance.
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October 19, 2014, 02:05:24 PM
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Merit of 8 billion NEM.(from a discussion until now)
1) Lucky number.---->popularity   --------> large  market  
2) Soon, world population become 8 billion. ----> 1 NEM per 1 person!
3) 2 million NEM per 1 stakehloder (Double NEMillionaire) -------> Half sell, still NEMillionaire ----------> Wide distribution of NEM----------> NEM's popularity & prosperity.

Somebody please show me the merit of 4 billion NEM shortly.
If he shows the more merit, I will throw away 8 billion and support 4 Billion.
Thanks in advance.

The downsides of 8 bill are enough merrit for 4 bill.
It was 4 bill for almost a year now and people are aware of that number. Changing it now will not only make people scratch their heads it will also look like we're all over the place changing stuff like this in the last possible moment out of superstition.

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October 19, 2014, 02:11:52 PM
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This is an operation of communication and seduction for the asian market
3 999 999 is fine for me it is just 1 nem less and it can change a lot of things  Roll Eyes
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October 19, 2014, 02:45:52 PM
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NEM 6th newsletter is out: https://medium.com/@xtester/nem-newsletter-6-2014-10-19-6cc2c2cc99be

Enjoy!  Wink
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October 19, 2014, 02:56:13 PM
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Merit of 8 billion NEM.(from a discussion until now)
1) Lucky number.---->popularity   --------> large  market  
2) Soon, world population become 8 billion. ----> 1 NEM per 1 person!
3) 2 million NEM per 1 stakehloder (Double NEMillionaire) -------> Half sell, still NEMillionaire ----------> Wide distribution of NEM----------> NEM's popularity & prosperity.

Somebody please show me the merit of 4 billion NEM shortly.
If he shows the more merit, I will throw away 8 billion and support 4 Billion.
Thanks in advance.

The downsides of 8 bill are enough merrit for 4 bill.
It was 4 bill for almost a year now and people are aware of that number. Changing it now will not only make people scratch their heads it will also look like we're all over the place changing stuff like this in the last possible moment out of superstition.
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!. Would you please explain the downsides of 8 Billion NEM?
2. You pointed out "change of design(plan)". I understand your position. If I were a member of dev team, I would think like you,too.
But Change of Design itself is not bad thing.  Sometimes, Change of design is necessary for good result.
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October 19, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
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finally ;-)
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October 19, 2014, 03:24:25 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Smiley
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October 19, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
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I don't understand why its a big focus now when everyone knew 4 billion was the number all along. I don't think its going to have an effect on adoption.

If Nem turns out as great as we all believe, a little superstition won't matter.
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October 19, 2014, 04:07:42 PM
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Merit of 8 billion NEM.(from a discussion until now)
1) Lucky number.---->popularity   --------> large  market  
2) Soon, world population become 8 billion. ----> 1 NEM per 1 person!
3) 2 million NEM per 1 stakehloder (Double NEMillionaire) -------> Half sell, still NEMillionaire ----------> Wide distribution of NEM----------> NEM's popularity & prosperity.

Somebody please show me the merit of 4 billion NEM shortly.
If he shows the more merit, I will throw away 8 billion and support 4 Billion.
Thanks in advance.

The downsides of 8 bill are enough merrit for 4 bill.
It was 4 bill for almost a year now and people are aware of that number. Changing it now will not only make people scratch their heads it will also look like we're all over the place changing stuff like this in the last possible moment out of superstition.
Thanks.
!. Would you please explain the downsides of 8 Billion NEM?
2. You pointed out "change of design(plan)". I understand your position. If I were a member of dev team, I would think like you,too.
But Change of Design itself is not bad thing.  Sometimes, Change of design is necessary for good result.

!. Would you please explain the downsides of 8 Billion NEM?

He just did. You can not make up the rules after the game has begun. Unless you want to lose investor confidence. This discussion is ridiculous.

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October 19, 2014, 04:16:48 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

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October 19, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

Stick with the original plan!

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October 19, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

Stick with the original plan!


Yes I agree - stick with the original plan.

Seems to me that since our Nem keys were posted (and things started to look serious), this forum has been full of 'distractions'

First we had 'what happens to the unclaimed stakes?'

Now we have - '4 billion is a superstitious number'

Can't help but wonder if these supposed issues are meant to delay or distract the developers from getting on with developing Nem?

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October 19, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
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I don´t care if 4 or 8 bil, but please decide it now and stop this dump discussion.

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October 19, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

Stick with the original plan!


Yes I agree - stick with the original plan.

Seems to me that since our Nem keys were posted (and things started to look serious), this forum has been full of 'distractions'

First we had 'what happens to the unclaimed stakes?'

Now we have - '4 billion is a superstitious number'

Can't help but wonder if these supposed issues are meant to delay or distract the developers from getting on with developing Nem?

I don't think it is distracting or causing any delay. The developers are busy doing their developer things. If anything, I think it is healthy that we have these discussions. As stated numerous times here, this is more than just a simple cryptocurrency pump and dump. This is the beginning of a movement and an entirely new cryptocurrency ecosystem that we are hoping will set the standard for the future of finance in the digital age. We need to have these discussions to make sure that everything is done right.

If there was no concern about the number of total coins, this discussion never would have started up in the first place. Obviously some members of the community feel it is an important issue, so it is important that we let their voices be heard and discuss it in a civil manner as a community, which we have done. That is really our job as participants in this movement. The developers are doing their job, and we are doing ours.

I would much rather we discuss these matters and actually have a meaningful debate about them instead of the developers having total authoritarian control over every aspect of NEM and how it works.

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October 19, 2014, 06:08:56 PM
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I have Nemstake on my NXT account. Am I up to date on the redemption process?
Sure thing.

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October 19, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

Have you heard about the changes in companies' shares in stock markets? They usually come suddenly and then you have been given a letter, a notification that each share is splitted into 8 (for example).
In such case the value of the owner's shares is the same, but the amount of shares has increased, not doubled but 8 times.

I think that the investors do understand this kind of changes. No one has eaten his words  Wink
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October 19, 2014, 06:26:20 PM
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I don´t care if 4 or 8 bil, but please decide it now and stop this dump discussion.


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It cannot be not dump to think that a decision can be ended by just saying "decide it now".

Things take their times, especially when it is a discussion in an "async web forum of countless amount of active members".
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October 19, 2014, 06:28:06 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

Have you heard about the changes in companies' shares in stock markets? They usually come suddenly and then you have been given a letter, a notification that each share is splitted into 8 (for example).
In such case the value of the owner's shares is the same, but the amount of shares has increased, not doubled but 8 times.

I think that the investors do understand this kind of changes. No one has eaten his words  Wink


Of course, but NEM is not a stock.

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October 19, 2014, 06:42:04 PM
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I just read the sixth newsletter, telling me I have only 18 days to get my NEM and I still dont understand much how to do it. So, I start to panick

1. I do not have my stake on NXT. I just paid in February
2. According to this page I must first receive my token then register for stake at https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes
3. My question is: how to I get my token?

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October 19, 2014, 06:43:47 PM
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I am leaning towards agreeing with everyone that this discussion should probably just be left alone. It seems like there are quite a few who do think we should change the total amount of coins, but I think that decision will ultimately undermine investor confidence, at least in the short-term. Long term, it really could go either way, but I think that the effects would be so minimal that risking short-term investor confidence is too much of a risk for a very minimal long-term gain (if any).

After thinking about it carefully for a significant amount of time since this discussion came about, I have come to the conclusion that the risk to reward ratio for this decision is simply not good enough for me to be able to support any changes.

Have you heard about the changes in companies' shares in stock markets? They usually come suddenly and then you have been given a letter, a notification that each share is splitted into 8 (for example).
In such case the value of the owner's shares is the same, but the amount of shares has increased, not doubled but 8 times.

I think that the investors do understand this kind of changes. No one has eaten his words  Wink


Of course, but NEM is not a stock.
Luckily, NEM is already divisible Smiley
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