[ANN] [SC] SilkCoin - Takeover and Rebuilding Discussion/Proposal

[djek31]

seems like I'm fighting a losing battle here! where is all the sc lovers?

[djek31]

I will try to get something up tomorrow. I am on GMT +2. So its getting late.

I'm on london time and need some sleep too, so good night to you all. peace!

[arteleis]

One problem that does arise from a community making decisions is making sure there are safeguards in place to allow decisions to actually be made instead of it turning into a clusterfuck of talking/opinions without any action. That is why a single developer or group with a common vision are more successful than a rag-tag band of community members. What are some proposed solutions to ensuring that while all voices are heard, there is some actual leadership happening to ensure shit actually gets done decisively?

+1000

 Hey man if you have any specific problems with the work being done to save your bag of silk, please point them out.  Nothing worse then a guy who does absolutely nothing, and tells everyone else they have no right to volunteer their time and effort. Im not sure where youre coming from unless youre one of initial developers. You did seem to claim that the coin was yours, more so then anyone else here.

so far you have still not said what you will do for the community and the coin! stop talking crap and tell us what you actually have to offer as you seem to be the one spouting a lot of crap and wanting to change the name... and for what reason?? stop trying to change the subject and tell us what are YOU going to contribute to the coin and community?

At no point have I said I would like this or that to change about anything to do with the coin yet you seem to want a lot changed to suit you but at no point have you said what you will do to contribute to anything. FULL MOFO'ING STOP

  Im already contributing what i can offer.  I am entitled to opinion about changing the name as i was burnt hard by the previous name.

   You fell that the trello board is not a contribution? What have you contributed?  All youve said is stop you bunch of monkeys.  Again, im not certain your motivation here.

Again I ask... what are you going to do for the coin and community? are you going to code the new wallet? are you going to contribute coins? btc? sc? or any form of currency? at no point have I said I want this or that but you seem to want a lot for nothing! TELL US WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE OR PLEASE HOLD YOUR CORNER AND SHUT UP!

Yes I've already contributed coins.  Silkcoins.  And have contributed my time to organize list of volunteers connecting to make things happen that are necessary for the coin. I am not deciding all of these things.  The active community is. I donated silk to the escrow and started the trello board.  Will do my best to manage all the information and volunteers to help this coin continue.

So this is what I've already contributed.  Not what I'm going to contribute. As mentioned in trello, if folks want me to continue organizing I will.  Not claiming to be a leader or anything of the sorts if that's what you're getting at.

What do I get out it? Protection of my investment in Silk. And hopefully the respect of the community.  That would be nice but I am definitely not ego driven or this reply would be much different.  Hope that makes sense.

[djek31]

One problem that does arise from a community making decisions is making sure there are safeguards in place to allow decisions to actually be made instead of it turning into a clusterfuck of talking/opinions without any action. That is why a single developer or group with a common vision are more successful than a rag-tag band of community members. What are some proposed solutions to ensuring that while all voices are heard, there is some actual leadership happening to ensure shit actually gets done decisively?

+1000

 Hey man if you have any specific problems with the work being done to save your bag of silk, please point them out.  Nothing worse then a guy who does absolutely nothing, and tells everyone else they have no right to volunteer their time and effort. Im not sure where youre coming from unless youre one of initial developers. You did seem to claim that the coin was yours, more so then anyone else here.

so far you have still not said what you will do for the community and the coin! stop talking crap and tell us what you actually have to offer as you seem to be the one spouting a lot of crap and wanting to change the name... and for what reason?? stop trying to change the subject and tell us what are YOU going to contribute to the coin and community?

At no point have I said I would like this or that to change about anything to do with the coin yet you seem to want a lot changed to suit you but at no point have you said what you will do to contribute to anything. FULL MOFO'ING STOP

  Im already contributing what i can offer.  I am entitled to opinion about changing the name as i was burnt hard by the previous name.

   You fell that the trello board is not a contribution? What have you contributed?  All youve said is stop you bunch of monkeys.  Again, im not certain your motivation here.

Again I ask... what are you going to do for the coin and community? are you going to code the new wallet? are you going to contribute coins? btc? sc? or any form of currency? at no point have I said I want this or that but you seem to want a lot for nothing! TELL US WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE OR PLEASE HOLD YOUR CORNER AND SHUT UP!

Yes I've already contributed coins.  Silkcoins.  And have contributed my time to organize list of volunteers connecting to make things happen that are necessary for the coin. I am not deciding all of these things.  The active community is. I donated silk to the escrow and started the trello board.  Will do my best to manage all the information and volunteers to help this coin continue.

So this is what I've already contributed.  Not what I'm going to contribute. As mentioned in trello, if folks want me to continue organizing I will.  Not claiming to be a leader or anything of the sorts if that's what you're getting at.

What do I get out it? Protection of my investment in Silk. And hopefully the respect of the community.  That would be nice but I am definitely not ego driven or this reply would be much different.  Hope that makes sense.

if that's the case then help silkcoin and not bazaar coin because your investment is in SILKCOIN!

need I say more?

[arteleis]

Lol in think you misunderstood.  There has been absolutely no mention of bazaarcoin. Haha the bazaar is the suggested name for the previous 'ecosystem' plan.  Everything in the bazaar would be traded for silk, or silkcoin, or cryptosilk or whatever the community decides most likely by btt vote.  Bazaarcoin is a stupid name and not sure where you got that.  Lol hopefully everything makes sense now.

  The grandbazaar presently is the name of the trelloboard. Nothing more.

[arteleis]

https://trello.com/b/YfCUpW9h/silk-coin-rebuilding

Anybody else interested in helping out with this movement, please sign up at The Grand Bazaar, and pm me your trello ID.  Awesome work everyone.  Honesty, truth and brotherhood prevails!

[starsandskies]

New to the SC community but really excited about what's going on here. Sorry if I missed some of this in the earlier parts of the thread, but what's the status on rebranding/renaming? Was a decision reached there?

Also, when I first heard of SC I thought it was related to Silk Road. Tbh, this could hurt in terms of negative association when it comes to going mainstream.

I can help with UI/UX, distribution, community building and am checking out the trello board as we speak.

One thing that really helped dogecoin in its early days was its marketing stunts around funding the jamaican bobsled team, etc. Is there something equivalent we can do for the relaunch?

-s+s

[ahbartsch]

Lol in think you misunderstood.  There has been absolutely no mention of bazaarcoin. Haha the bazaar is the suggested name for the previous 'ecosystem' plan.  Everything in the bazaar would be traded for silk, or silkcoin, or cryptosilk or whatever the community decides most likely by btt vote.  Bazaarcoin is a stupid name and not sure where you got that.  Lol hopefully everything makes sense now.

  The grandbazaar presently is the name of the trelloboard. Nothing more.

Don't let him discourage you arteleis, your contributions are appreciated. He's either a troll or just unable to communicate in a mature and articulated manner.

[arteleis]

New to the SC community but really excited about what's going on here. Sorry if I missed some of this in the earlier parts of the thread, but what's the status on rebranding/renaming? Was a decision reached there?

Also, when I first heard of SC I thought it was related to Silk Road. Tbh, this could hurt in terms of negative association when it comes to going mainstream.

I can help with UI/UX, distribution, community building and am checking out the trello board as we speak.

One thing that really helped dogecoin in its early days was its marketing stunts around funding the jamaican bobsled team, etc. Is there something equivalent we can do for the relaunch?

-s+s

 Yes! Let me know your id and ill add ya so you can post.

[nzminer]

Just ignore him, probably some troll:

Anyway here are a few concept logos:
It has full transparency, so can be overlaid as in the image below:

[arteleis]

Lol in think you misunderstood.  There has been absolutely no mention of bazaarcoin. Haha the bazaar is the suggested name for the previous 'ecosystem' plan.  Everything in the bazaar would be traded for silk, or silkcoin, or cryptosilk or whatever the community decides most likely by btt vote.  Bazaarcoin is a stupid name and not sure where you got that.  Lol hopefully everything makes sense now.

  The grandbazaar presently is the name of the trelloboard. Nothing more.

Don't let him discourage you arteleis, your contributions are appreciated. He's either a troll or just unable to communicate in a mature and articulated manner.

 
  Haha thanks.  But i dont get discouraged easily and this clearly was a misunderstanding.  
  If i thought someone had intentions to change this to a stupid name like bazaarcoin id be pissed off too! Haha

[arteleis]

Just ignore him, probably some troll:

Anyway here are a few concept logos:
It has full transparency, so can be overlaid as in the image below:

Nice work! I love #1 and number 2. 

  And after doing some research SILK is trademarked by a japanese company involving software on mobile and desktop applications.  SILK as a cryptocurrency is in a gray area especially in the development of applications for it.  I do like the idea of dropping coin from the name but seems possibly dangerous.  Ill post a link of the trademark if anyone has expertise in the subject.

  It may be safer to stick to silkcoin (as eloquently suggested recently) with a possible ticker switch to slk. 

[arteleis]

Alternatively, what about CryptoSilk?

[arteleis]

I really like "opening the ancient pathway into the modern world."

[nzminer]

Alternatively, what about CryptoSilk?

Thats another possible option, but i think we will get away by calling the units "Silk", we already have been doing that.
I think Silkcrypto, Silk Crypto or Silk-Crypto sounds better.
Either way, Silk has to stay in the name.
Perhaps Silk Chain could be another good name?

[starsandskies]

  And after doing some research SILK is trademarked by a japanese company involving software on mobile and desktop applications.  SILK as a cryptocurrency is in a gray area especially in the development of applications for it.  I do like the idea of dropping coin from the name but seems possibly dangerous.  Ill post a link of the trademark if anyone has expertise in the subject.

  It may be safer to stick to silkcoin (as eloquently suggested recently) with a possible ticker switch to slk.  

I can help out with advising on the legal front. Where's the trademark registered? I wouldn't be too concerned about a trademark as long as it's not directly competing (for example, there's a soy milk company also called "silk"), although it depends what exactly the Japanese company is building.

I know you guys like the original name, but I stand by my assertion that association with silk road is confusing and probably won't help.

p.s. I'm starsandskies on trello.

[arteleis]

I can't find the disclaimer from dynadot.  But was trademarked by amazon and I believe has to do with their browser they are releasing.

http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/

[arteleis]

Actually may not be a problem? Anybody seen this browser? That article is from 2011.

[nzminer]

  And after doing some research SILK is trademarked by a japanese company involving software on mobile and desktop applications.  SILK as a cryptocurrency is in a gray area especially in the development of applications for it.  I do like the idea of dropping coin from the name but seems possibly dangerous.  Ill post a link of the trademark if anyone has expertise in the subject.

  It may be safer to stick to silkcoin (as eloquently suggested recently) with a possible ticker switch to slk.  

I can help out with advising on the legal front. Where's the trademark registered? I wouldn't be too concerned about a trademark as long as it's not directly competing (for example, there's a soy milk company also called "silk"), although it depends what exactly the Japanese company is building.

I know you guys like the original name, but I stand by my assertion that association with silk road is confusing and probably won't help.

I knew about silk road before learning about SilkCoin, and i never once thought that it had anything to do with it.
Anyway, its a well known ancient trade route, it never was a term used for the black market. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road
This coin is going to be designed for trading and have its own marketplace, and not that many people have heard about silkroad anyway.

This coin is going to be the Aladdin's cave of cryptos

[mbishop75]

I've been a C/C++/C# developer for over 10 years and would be willing to help with rebuilding.  I manage a development team full time so I would not have enough time to take the lead on this after bholzer is done, but would be willing to give as much of my time as I can.

As far as sharing my identity, I have no problem with that since I am a professional developer and have nothing to hide. 

I also have a Masters Degree in Project Management from Boston University so if my assistance on the dev side is not needed, I can offer my PM skills to the community.

My Trello ID is @mbishop75