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September 10, 2012, 03:48:54 AM |
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Hashking: When you placed money with Pirate, did you know (or reasonably suspect) that he was running a Ponzi scheme?
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September 10, 2012, 03:53:16 AM |
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this guy deserves a straight scammer tag.
Then request it in the scam accusation page. I am saying this honestly because I think people don't realize this. The mods don't go around looking for scams and issuing scam tags. If you feel you have been scammed you make an accusation in the scam accusation forum, create a thread, post your reasons/evidence, and the PM a mod requesting the tag. If you (or another victim) doesn't so that no scammer tag will EVER be issued.
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September 10, 2012, 03:55:12 AM |
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Haha. Is this a joke? People really gave pirate those kind of amounts? Without knowing who he is, where he lives, and watching his every move? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Those kind of amounts have a way of landing people at the bottom of a river. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Most of them were simply putting other people's money at risk. Nothing lost when the ponzi went bankrupt. I mean it wasn't their money. That applies to all passthrough operators, PPT bond issuers, and lying HYIP "guaranteed" deposit takers. Always going to be another sucker left holding the bag when it all goes tits up right?
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September 10, 2012, 08:16:32 AM |
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Hashking should get a scammer tag for this, regardless of whether or not he repays three years from now. He very clearly did not abide by the terms of his agreement.
Admin do appear to be very reluctant about awarding those. Surely the community should decide. Or does that happen already? Forgive me if it does, haven't been a member that long. You have to make an accusation in this subforum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0Since I am not involved or affected, its not up to me to do that, but anyone who feels scammed by hashking should.
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zyk
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September 10, 2012, 09:37:41 AM |
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Haha. Is this a joke? People really gave pirate those kind of amounts? Without knowing who he is, where he lives, and watching his every move? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Those kind of amounts have a way of landing people at the bottom of a river. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Most of them were simply putting other people's money at risk. Nothing lost when the ponzi went bankrupt. I mean it wasn't their money. That applies to all passthrough operators, PPT bond issuers, and lying HYIP "guaranteed" deposit takers. Always going to be another sucker left holding the bag when it all goes tits up right? Do you have a say in the scammers - tag distribution/withholding process ? How is it judged and done ? Are there repercussions for false accusations? Is running ponzis defined as scamming yet? Thank you Zyk
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Jurek
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September 10, 2012, 10:23:53 AM |
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What deposits will get paid first? How are you going to choose?
IMO the only fair way is to pay all accounts a proportional percentage with whatever is immediately available, with a 1-1.9%/wk bias to the cumulative interest accounts as they didn't get any return at all yet. Sounds fair to me. Hashking, I won't rush you, but at this point please, please become honest with us and tell how much you owe, how much you have and what are you going to do in the following weeks. Whenever you are ready. I beg for a little transparency in this mess..
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September 10, 2012, 10:52:17 AM |
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I beg for a little transparency in this mess..
Absolutely, we need transparency. Because if he owes depositors something like BTC 10000+, realistically that's never going to get paid back is it. If he's buying on the open market, what happens if the price doubles/triples in a year time?
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September 10, 2012, 12:01:11 PM |
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I beg for a little transparency in this mess..
Absolutely, we need transparency. Because if he owes depositors something like BTC 10000+, realistically that's never going to get paid back is it. If he's buying on the open market, what happens if the price doubles/triples in a year time? Let's get transparent. Your money is fucking gone. You won't see it in 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years, or 3 centuries. Have a nice day.
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*processing payment* *error 404 : funds not found* Do you want to complain on the forum just to fall for another scam a few days later? | YES | YES |
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September 10, 2012, 12:15:59 PM |
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Nobody was talking to you gene. Nobody is interested in your opinion. We all know the situation and talking here won't make it any worse than it already is. Let's keep this thread customers-hk only. I beg for a little transparency in this mess..
Absolutely, we need transparency. Because if he owes depositors something like BTC 10000+, realistically that's never going to get paid back is it. If he's buying on the open market, what happens if the price doubles/triples in a year time? Just set 1BTC equal to 11 USD.
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September 10, 2012, 01:54:20 PM |
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Hashking, will you please post a procedure for transferring accounts and withdrawal addresses? This will be useful for those of us who want to sell your debt.
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September 10, 2012, 02:09:00 PM |
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I beg for a little transparency in this mess..
Absolutely, we need transparency. Because if he owes depositors something like BTC 10000+, realistically that's never going to get paid back is it. If he's buying on the open market, what happens if the price doubles/triples in a year time? No, it's more like 30,000+. And no, I am not kidding.
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September 10, 2012, 06:28:30 PM |
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He had a trust account so at least 5,000 BTC, probably a lot more - if it was his own money he's free to do with it as he pleases imo (which I know some others don't agree with), he is not free though to risk his own money in such an obviously high risk venture if that portion of it is being used to back guarantees & insurance given against funds loaned to him & he absolutely can not risk any of those said funds with BST, unless he had other liquid assets to pay back in case of a pirate default.
Trust account require WAY MORE than that to get the 7%. I'd say hashking have maybe 30k with pirate. Now, I am NOT saying that is all investors BTC, but nobody really knows except hashking. Haha. Is this a joke? People really gave pirate those kind of amounts? Without knowing who he is, where he lives, and watching his every move? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Those kind of amounts have a way of landing people at the bottom of a river. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Does anyone actually know who hashking is? The main reason I never invested with him is that it wasn't possible for me to pay him a visit in person should things go wrong. But yes, people put that kind of money with pirate, all the while throwing insults at people like me who pointed out that it was a fucking obvious scam. I'm beginning to think some of the people on this forum were dropped on their head at birth.
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September 10, 2012, 07:10:44 PM Last edit: September 10, 2012, 07:21:36 PM by Buffer Overflow |
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Just out of curiosity (I never had coins in it) has any PPT account holders got their 50% default insurance coins back from hashkings '3.30% Weekly -- Direct BTCST Pass Through 50% Insurance 1 week lock in account'?
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September 10, 2012, 08:11:36 PM |
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Just out of curiosity (I never had coins in it) has any PPT account holders got their 50% default insurance coins back from hashkings '3.30% Weekly -- Direct BTCST Pass Through 50% Insurance 1 week lock in account'? I am not part of it, but I would be very surprised if anyone got that 50% back.
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September 10, 2012, 09:56:17 PM |
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Nobody was talking to you gene. Nobody is interested in your opinion. We all know the situation and talking here won't make it any worse than it already is. Let's keep this thread customers-hk only.
My point is that it is too late to be screaming "transparency!" This is like running to buy fire insurance after your house is a smoldering slurry of ash and pisswater. The time to ask tough questions was before investing. The only thing left to do is to punish the scammer and to not fall for this bullshit again.
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zyk
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September 10, 2012, 10:40:55 PM |
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He had a trust account so at least 5,000 BTC, probably a lot more - if it was his own money he's free to do with it as he pleases imo (which I know some others don't agree with), he is not free though to risk his own money in such an obviously high risk venture if that portion of it is being used to back guarantees & insurance given against funds loaned to him & he absolutely can not risk any of those said funds with BST, unless he had other liquid assets to pay back in case of a pirate default.
Trust account require WAY MORE than that to get the 7%. I'd say hashking have maybe 30k with pirate. Now, I am NOT saying that is all investors BTC, but nobody really knows except hashking. Haha. Is this a joke? People really gave pirate those kind of amounts? Without knowing who he is, where he lives, and watching his every move? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Those kind of amounts have a way of landing people at the bottom of a river. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Does anyone actually know who hashking is? The main reason I never invested with him is that it wasn't possible for me to pay him a visit in person should things go wrong. But yes, people put that kind of money with pirate, all the while throwing insults at people like me who pointed out that it was a fucking obvious scam. I'm beginning to think some of the people on this forum were dropped on their head at birth. Then you could even ask yourself, why none of the headdropped creatures even want to put up for locating pirate.... Question and questions and so many answers.....just put the pairs together......but you´ll might still loose against a heroflush ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Cheers Zyk
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September 11, 2012, 01:25:05 AM |
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LOANSIf you are in need of a loan please pm me and we can discuss terms. After we agree I will post terms and cofirmations in this thread. I will also list my good borrowers and bad borrowers in this thread that way if anyone needs to check payment history with a previous borrower they can. If you want your information kept confidential please let me know. ESCROW SERVICEIf anyone is interested and needs to do an escrow for any type of transaction I will do this for no charge. DEPOSIT ACCOUNTS Lastly if anyone is interested in depositing any BTC with me to earn interest I will pay a 1.00% weekly interest rate(No commitment required). The funds for the deposits will be used for lending out to other borrowers, investing in more mining equipment, bitcoin projects and other investments offered on the forum. If someone is in need to make a withdrawl of bitcoins there is a 24 hour waiting period. Most withdrawls will be returned sooner as long as I'm not sleeping. All my depositers funds are 100% guaranteed and will not lose any funds due to any defaults unless stated otherwise. Depositor may decided to either receive weekly interest payments or rollover their interest. Deposits could be returned at anytime. Current Rates:1.00% Weekly -- Guaranteed Fully Insured no lock in 1.25% Weekly -- Guaranteed Fully Insured 8 week lock in 3.30% Weekly -- Direct BTCST Pass Through 50% Insurance 1 week lock in (CLOSED)Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97041.msg1068849#msg1068849 4.91% Weekly -- Direct BTCST Pass Through 0% Insurance 1 week lock in New rate will be effective 8/20/12. Existing accounts will be switched over to the new rate on 8/19/12.Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82574.0. (CLOSED AS OF 8/19/12.) If you are interested in setting up an account please visit http://hkbtclending.com. In case hashking decides to delete the original post.
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September 11, 2012, 01:27:44 AM |
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With the current situation I will not be able to honor those. Like I said, I will start making payments on Monday.
It is Monday and it will be Tuesday in less than 4 hours. I don't see any payments yet. Are you trying to drag it out like Pirate? If so, just say so.
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