ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[twib2]

Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

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Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

[Master One]

It would be nice to see a price drop when their web site comes back up but I won't hold my breath. At 0.66 btc the price is too high. Sitting on hands and btc in wallets is the better option for now.

I totally agree, and I won't hold my breath neither. It's an impossible situation right now. Bitmaintech could make a difference by lowering the price each batch to accommodate the loss in time to reach ROI, but with sticking to 0.66 BTC for Batch 7 it's a clear no-go.

Without a new generation of ASIC chips with a higher hash rate at lower power consumption (looks like the 20 nm chips would be the only option for the foreseeable future) home mining has already hit a dead end. The SP30 would have been an interesting alternative to a couple of S3, but with $3895 and ETA of the next batch earliest in September (if at all, not to speak of the ridiculousness of full payment in advance, something I'd never do!) that device will never reach ROI if you are having to pay for energy.

Best bet right now is to buy a couple of BTC and wait for something to happen to the S3 price or a S4 appearance.

Your calculations are not including the fact residential electric has utility, fees, taxes. You may be charged for many things so what is $1.22/day in energy costs for you might add an additional $30 of taxes and fees. Hosted units are flat rate. You can host 10 S3 for $0.90/day and $270 month for 10 of them. Your home may run 10 S3 for $1.22/day and $366 month but you might end up seeing $50-100+ extra for fees and taxes after energy cost.

The mentioned price of $1.22/day for a S3 running here at my place already include all the additional charges, which equals $0.11/kWh excl. VAT, so the shown calculation is correct and exact for my particular case. However I turn the coin hosting like at GAW Miners would not make any sense for me.

[MoreBloodWine]

The one page in the admin area where i shows dropbear port 22, that's what allows putty to connect right so if I changed hat to say 2013 I would use 2013 in the port box on putty to connect via ssh ?

[MinersAnonymous]

Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096

[JennaK]

Anyone want to post on here their Antminer s3 setup? I want to replicate some sort of rack.
Thanks.

[kaltar]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

+1

[yslyung]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

+1

[visdude]

Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096

I'm with y'all regarding Bitmain's pricing.  However, as long as there are hardware geeks out there who are willing to pay at any price regardless of ROI just so they can have their shiny toys to play with, Bitmain has no incentive to modify their pricing model to benefit the consumer.  We can biatch all we can in here and rationalize it in a futile attempt to sway Bitmain to our cause but unfortunately, we are a minority.  Them hardware geeks are buying the S3s like hotcakes regardless.  Remember, Bitmain is not in business for nothing; they are definitely not an NPO.  Now, if we could only convince these hardware geeks around the world...nah, greed and bragging rights rule.

[visdude]

Anyone want to post on here their Antminer s3 setup? I want to replicate some sort of rack.
Thanks.

I like this rack.  Replicate that!

[visdude]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

Thank you for this post.  I hope Bitmain will capitulate as expected.  It is morally the right thing to do on their part.

[Billbags]

Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096

Look at cklolivas(cgminer dev) post in this thread. Goes into great detail about this.

[edonkey]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

Thank you for this post.  I hope Bitmain will capitulate as expected.  It is morally the right thing to do on their part.

It's more than morally right; it's legally required.

Although it isn't clear what recourse this community (or anyone) would have against a Chinese company that doesn't comply with the GPL. Hopefully it won't come to that...

[visdude]

Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096

Look at cklolivas(cgminer dev) post in this thread. Goes into great detail about this.

Do you remember which page it is approximately?

[R4v37]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

now the boss is coming around here lately
we hope BITMAIN will provide the source code, so we wont ended up editing the queue by ourselves...

its kinda risky, actually i really dont know

[visdude]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

Thank you for this post.  I hope Bitmain will capitulate as expected.  It is morally the right thing to do on their part.

It's more than morally right; it's legally required.

Although it isn't clear what recourse this community (or anyone) would have against a Chinese company that doesn't comply with the GPL. Hopefully it won't come to that...

The legal part is a given; I already got that.  I was just trying to appeal to Bitmain's morality.  I hope they still have an ounce left and not completely overwhelmed by capitalism, i.e. profit and greed.

[smracer]

Anyone want to post on here their Antminer s3 setup? I want to replicate some sort of rack.
Thanks.

Here is my rack you can duplicate.

[philipma1957]

Hi BITMAIN.

As you're an official representative of bitmain, may I ask you to please provide the source code for your modifications to cgminer in the form of the driver for the S3. cgminer is provided under the GPL version 3 license which means you are obliged by law to provide the source code to any modifications you do if you distribute binaries and you are distributing modified cgminer binaries with every S3.

Provision of the source code would allow us to aid the development of your driver and help bring your version to sync up with the latest cgminer to derive the benefits of newer versions along with its many fixes.

I will bump your request.

[MinersAnonymous]

Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096

Look at cklolivas(cgminer dev) post in this thread. Goes into great detail about this.

I will try. The results from search is a bit overwhelming in such a large thread. I was hoping for a single quick fix answer but I will try to read through the results

[daeminium]

B7 = 0.66 BTC great