ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[MoreBloodWine]

I've already ROI'd my S1s. Everything from this point is profit until the cost of electricity is more than the BTC value. But it is also a hobby and I believe in BTC. I have friends that spend $400 a month on golf. Nobody ask them about their ROI.

+1 lol

I have ordered 3 S3+ but not paid yet.
I don't really know what to do now, delivery date is 20th sept (or sooner)
Should i wait for next generation S4?

At this point in time it would be more appropriate to wait until like Sep 7th to see where the price is at. Ordering now at this early stage is just throwing away BTC.

[Jcga]

I've already ROI'd my S1s. Everything from this point is profit until the cost of electricity is more than the BTC value. But it is also a hobby and I believe in BTC. I have friends that spend $400 a month on golf. Nobody ask them about their ROI.

+1 lol

I have ordered 3 S3+ but not paid yet.
I don't really know what to do now, delivery date is 20th sept (or sooner)
Should i wait for next generation S4?

At this point in time it would be more appropriate to wait until like Sep 7th to see where the price is at. Ordering now at this early stage is just throwing away BTC.

This is what i tought too

Deeply thx MoreBloodWine, I have been reading your posts on BA pages too

[MoreBloodWine]

I've already ROI'd my S1s. Everything from this point is profit until the cost of electricity is more than the BTC value. But it is also a hobby and I believe in BTC. I have friends that spend $400 a month on golf. Nobody ask them about their ROI.

+1 lol

I have ordered 3 S3+ but not paid yet.
I don't really know what to do now, delivery date is 20th sept (or sooner)
Should i wait for next generation S4?

At this point in time it would be more appropriate to wait until like Sep 7th to see where the price is at. Ordering now at this early stage is just throwing away BTC.

This is what i tought too

Deeply thx MoreBloodWine, I have been reading your posts on BA pages too

If you mean on he ecoin forums, some of my posts earned me a "warning" there. I've already been told because of my posts that I'm off the compensation list which is funny because the worst thin I ever did there was post the same thing four times in a row bec nemesidis kept deleting it.

I don't remember what the post was about but I think it had to do with the outright ignorance of not responding to tickets for upwards o three weeks. That seems to have sine gotten better but still isn't great.

As for being on topic to this thread... your welcome.

I mean worst case scenario is the price doesn't change and you end up getting your order later compared to if your ordered today but with it being so early. Where nothing ships for a month if not sooner, it's better to just wait two weeks and see where things are at.

[faetos]

I had to RMA a board from one of my batch 2 S3s and it was a complete chore to unscrew everything to get the board off. I had (not joking) close to 30 screws on my table. Dude, these are well put together machines. Their support has been really top class. If you can get Kiddy Chen then you'll be set. However, what this made me realize is there is no way in hell I am going to ever purchase an upgrade kit. Old boy was right to just suggest it was a waste of time. If the cost comes down it'd really just be smarter and less trouble to purchase a whole unit. If the price were half the cost of a whole unit then mebbe.

Has anyone that has a batch 1 or 2 gotten their units to OC successfully? I can only get 1 to hash at 441, but OC is a bust.

[HardwareReviewer]

Hi,

one of my S3 miners has an extreme low hashrate (80 GH/s).

It seems that it is not pulling the frequency data from the config file.

I've attached a picture, looking at the config file it shows that the frequency is supposed to be the standard 218.75.




Factory reset didn't help.

Anyone knows what to do about this?

[derel1cte]

Hi,

one of my S3 miners has an extreme low hashrate (80 GH/s).

It seems that it is not pulling the frequency data from the config file.

I've attached a picture, looking at the config file it shows that the frequency is supposed to be the standard 218.75.

Factory reset didn't help.

Anyone knows what to do about this?

You need to go to the miner configuration tab. Select advanced and choose a frequency. Save and apply. all better.

[MoreBloodWine]

Hi,

one of my S3 miners has an extreme low hashrate (80 GH/s).

It seems that it is not pulling the frequency data from the config file.

I've attached a picture, looking at the config file it shows that the frequency is supposed to be the standard 218.75.

Factory reset didn't help.

Anyone knows what to do about this?

You need to go to the miner configuration tab. Select advanced and choose a frequency. Save and apply. all better.

I wonder what it is about the new FW that does this or maybe it's some sort of post lash protection but the same thing happened to me and was fixed just by "applying" everything from the new tab.

[HardwareReviewer]

Hi,

one of my S3 miners has an extreme low hashrate (80 GH/s).

It seems that it is not pulling the frequency data from the config file.

I've attached a picture, looking at the config file it shows that the frequency is supposed to be the standard 218.75.

Factory reset didn't help.

Anyone knows what to do about this?

You need to go to the miner configuration tab. Select advanced and choose a frequency. Save and apply. all better.

I wonder what it is about the new FW that does this or maybe it's some sort of post lash protection but the same thing happened to me and was fixed just by "applying" everything from the new tab.

Thanks, I'll try it.

[twib2]

I had to RMA a board from one of my batch 2 S3s and it was a complete chore to unscrew everything to get the board off. I had (not joking) close to 30 screws on my table. Dude, these are well put together machines. Their support has been really top class. If you can get Kiddy Chen then you'll be set.

Wow, this was NOT my experience at all.  Tim/Ting Shao has been slow to respond, did not read my responses about what I already had tried, gave conflicting information, and made slowing-down assumptions (telling me to send a deposit to a BTC address if I wanted it shipped out faster and then assuming I wouldn't).  The last straw was that he didn't give shipping information or even tell me when it was supposed to be delivered and that it would require a signature, so they tried to deliver it today and of course no-one was home so they won't deliver it until Monday.  So, 3 days of additional lost hashing with 220 GH/s!  Ultimately, I'll be out more than 3 weeks of hashing, since I first let them know about it on 2 Aug.  Not nearly as smooth as I would have expected after my experiences with the S1s earlier this year, both in terms of service and quality.  I'm not a happy camper, and I'll be thinking seriously about whether or not to buy from them again.

[poorsnail]

Ting Shao has been a great support to me.

During firmware upgrade, I messed up my S3 Controller board.  Ting Shao replied and asked me to send it for RMA.

I said it will take 2 weeks to get to China, and I prefer to pay upfront than to wait for the RMA fix.   

I paid for the S3 board (since it was my f***up), the board showed up 2 days after via UPS express.

Bitmain's customer support is excellent.  I think if you are reasonable with them and don't try to hide your f***ups and try to scam bitmain, you will get your fix right away.

[Biodom]

I had to RMA a board from one of my batch 2 S3s and it was a complete chore to unscrew everything to get the board off. I had (not joking) close to 30 screws on my table. Dude, these are well put together machines. Their support has been really top class. If you can get Kiddy Chen then you'll be set. However, what this made me realize is there is no way in hell I am going to ever purchase an upgrade kit. Old boy was right to just suggest it was a waste of time. If the cost comes down it'd really just be smarter and less trouble to purchase a whole unit. If the price were half the cost of a whole unit then mebbe.

Has anyone that has a batch 1 or 2 gotten their units to OC successfully? I can only get 1 to hash at 441, but OC is a bust.

Out of two batch 1 machines, I have one that OC to 465GH on 237.5mhz (instead of 478 because one asic goes to X)
Another one is an underperformer at ~418GH at default speeds, so on average it is exactly 441GH/unit.

[techman05]

Which store is Ting Shao affiliated with? At least with 112bit in the U.S. ours if we have problems are supposed to go somewhere in the U.S and not back to china.

[heslo]

Which store is Ting Shao affiliated with? At least with 112bit in the U.S. ours if we have problems are supposed to go somewhere in the U.S and not back to china.

He's from Bitmain. I also dealt with him, fantastic guy and lots of help!

[faetos]

I had to RMA a board from one of my batch 2 S3s and it was a complete chore to unscrew everything to get the board off. I had (not joking) close to 30 screws on my table. Dude, these are well put together machines. Their support has been really top class. If you can get Kiddy Chen then you'll be set. However, what this made me realize is there is no way in hell I am going to ever purchase an upgrade kit. Old boy was right to just suggest it was a waste of time. If the cost comes down it'd really just be smarter and less trouble to purchase a whole unit. If the price were half the cost of a whole unit then mebbe.

Has anyone that has a batch 1 or 2 gotten their units to OC successfully? I can only get 1 to hash at 441, but OC is a bust.

Out of two batch 1 machines, I have one that OC to 465GH on 237.5mhz (instead of 478 because one asic goes to X)
Another one is an underperformer at ~418GH at default speeds, so on average it is exactly 441GH/unit.

Sounds like my situation. I'll try the 237.5 on the stable one and see how it works out.

Edit - actually did - got 1 OC hashing like yours and the other is a total piece of dog crap.

[twib2]

Ting Shao has been a great support to me.

During firmware upgrade, I messed up my S3 Controller board.  Ting Shao replied and asked me to send it for RMA.

I said it will take 2 weeks to get to China, and I prefer to pay upfront than to wait for the RMA fix.   

I paid for the S3 board (since it was my f***up), the board showed up 2 days after via UPS express.

Bitmain's customer support is excellent.  I think if you are reasonable with them and don't try to hide your f***ups and try to scam bitmain, you will get your fix right away.

Really?  It took him over a week to get back to me before I could get a bitcoin address and the shipping label he didn't attach to his email in the first place, even after repeated attempts at following up at that point.  And in my case, the one hashing board that died did so after only running 2 hours at stock speeds.  No firmware update, no OC, I planned to be careful for the first week before deciding what to do, and I didn't even get that.  I guess we had two different guys using that name maybe?

[MoreBloodWine]

Ok, so I had three of my four B5's on 250 and they ran great but I felt like I might have been pushing my luck some so I put them on 243.75 and man, I must say, from philipma's expectations of what he said I should get. I'm doing pretty damn good.

The first image is the one machine that's never gone past 237.5.

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/820S30001.jpg

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/820S30002.jpg

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/820S30003.jpg

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/820S30004.jpg

Ok, so were 3 days 5 hrs in on the 243.75's and I've noticed some drops in hash. I know machines have variance of +/- 10% sometimes but it seems like a steady but slow decline. What's weird is the time passed being only 2 days and change, compared to say a month or something.

Anyone else get this with OC'd machines ?

First image is the 237.5 machine that seems to be "leaking" as well.

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/823S30001.jpg (- 6.x Gh/s)

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/823S30002.jpg (+1.x Gh/s)

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/823S30003.jpg (-16.x Gh/s )

http://www.eojmarket.com/NonForumStuff/images/bitcoin_stuff/823S30004.jpg (-5.x Gh/s)

Total loss around 27 Gh/s, 26 if you subtract the +1 on machine two.

[twib2]

Ok, so were 3 days 5 hrs in on the 243.75's and I've noticed some drops in hash. I know machines have variance of +/- 10% sometimes but it seems like a steady but slow decline. What's weird is the time passed being only 2 days and change, compared to say a month or something.

Anyone else get this with OC'd machines ?

Power supplies.  They're probably close enough to the edge of the kind of power the S3's like (beefier than they draw) that just staying hot for a long time is enough to suck hashing power.

Do you have 2 PSU's on each OC'd unit, or only one?  And are you using two separate 6-pin PCI power connectors for each blade (not daisy-chain style) or only one?

My suggestion is to either cool the PSUs and see if your rate goes up, or use more/better PSUs.  Poor power doesn't always show up in x's or -'s now that I've been playing a bit with my good S3 and just got 60 GH/s back by adding another PSU.

Worth a try!

[daeminium]

Date   Difficulty   Change   Hash Rate
Aug 19 2014   23,844,670,039   20.86%   170,686,797 GH/s

Bitcoin Difficulty:   23,844,670,039
Estimated Next Difficulty:   29,059,721,211 (+21.87%)

= NO ROI

[MoreBloodWine]

Ok, so were 3 days 5 hrs in on the 243.75's and I've noticed some drops in hash. I know machines have variance of +/- 10% sometimes but it seems like a steady but slow decline. What's weird is the time passed being only 2 days and change, compared to say a month or something.

Anyone else get this with OC'd machines ?

Power supplies.  They're probably close enough to the edge of the kind of power the S3's like (beefier than they draw) that just staying hot for a long time is enough to suck hashing power.

Do you have 2 PSU's on each OC'd unit, or only one?  And are you using two separate 6-pin PCI power connectors for each blade (not daisy-chain style) or only one?

My suggestion is to either cool the PSUs and see if your rate goes up, or use more/better PSUs.  Poor power doesn't always show up in x's or -'s now that I've been playing a bit with my good S3 and just got 60 GH/s back by adding another PSU.

Worth a try!

My friend hosting them said and sent pics that each one is on a singular supply of 650W or greater with each miner using all four power ports.

Should I find out the specific PSU not that I think it matters with each one being 650w or greater.

Edit:

--- And are you using two separate 6-pin PCI power connectors for each blade (not daisy-chain style) or only one?

I actually just shot him an email about this but do you mean four cables using four ports on both the miner and PSU ?

I also dont get the beefier thing.

[bentleyrosco]

I went to use my 3 unused coupons today from the Bitmain Hash speed issue and found out that they expired.

What a crock of crap.

If they dont give me my coupons back or the equal bitcoin I will not purchase their products anymore.

Has anyone else had this happen???