★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - Community Fund Live!!!

[redjedievolution]

Dear Diego, We are already in THE MOON.

Please, could you tell me the value of NAVCoin 2 months ago??

I'll do the maths for you, it moved around 1500-2500 sat.

We're heading 7000sat.

We're in the moon, please let people say what they want...

I came to the conclusion that the NAV chart looks similar to BLK chart before pump.
I'm not trying to speculate, but now i truly believe that we will see 10mil $ market cap soon!
People should treat NAV more seriously.

Enjoy your day!   

I came to the conclusion that posters on bitcointalk should stop cheerleading their coin in this way. Too many times (here and on other coin threads) I read posts about people saying how amazing the charts look and how it will go to the moon, to see it actually go down a lot a few days later. I hold 75 % of my investment in NAV and I would be extremely happy if NAV would go to the moon. But now is not the moment for that yet. So stop the excessive cheerleading please. NAV will go to the moon once it's anonymous subchain is 100 % tested and operational. Until that happens, it is better to not expect too much.

Enjoy your day also 

[Diego24]

Dear Diego, We are already in THE MOON.

Please, could you tell me the value of NAVCoin 2 months ago??

I'll do the maths for you, it moved around 1500-2500 sat.

We're heading 7000sat.

You don't need to do the maths for me. I bought a lot of NAV in july and I am perfectly fine to do the math. The problem I am refering to is that people should not be cheerleading here every 2 days that NAV will go to the moon because of the wonderful charts. Why ? Because you can fool other unexperienced investors and burn them. There is no need to do that.

please let people say what they want...

Don't forget to follow your own advice.

[juguelio]

OT:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/13/nicola-sturgeon-challenges-may-with-second-referendum-bill-scottish-independence-snp-conference

Let's go Scotland independent!
Fuck the Tories and Theresa May Thatcher!

[Diego24]

OT:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/13/nicola-sturgeon-challenges-may-with-second-referendum-bill-scottish-independence-snp-conference

Let's go Scotland independent!
Fuck the Tories and Theresa May Thatcher!

So what if Scotland gets independent ? Then you will have your own politicians screwing you over. In Spain there is the same discussion with the Catalans. But the funny thing is that the Catalan politicians are equally corrupt as the politicians in Madrid. 

[redjedievolution]

I never told you stop saying anything. But you must understand people can be excited about the price, and projection. Why they must stop saying what they want? I didn't saw you telling anything about detractors and trolls, you only say that about cheerleaders. Maybe you sold coins in wrong moment? and you're afraid you can't rebuy them? That could be the reason you don't want people hyping or cheerleading... increasing the price....

If an investor put his money in the first thing they see without doing properly due diligence, they will be losing their money sooner or later, with nav, or whatever coin.

By the way you can see here nice developers giving properly assistance to investors, developing, testing and checking new features as you can see in slack channel, giving us periodic news about the project, and supporting with real money any kind of social support like the 20.000 NAVCoin for Thunderclap (1.5btc) (around 1000$)

This arguments (and more i ommited) are enough to be cheerleading a lot... personally i don't waste my time doing that, but i understand people could be excited about this or want to promote another pump, you can't avoid that, is what market makers and traders does... But it gives liquidity to the market. I've been investing in many altcoins since many years and sincerely i know a diamond when i see it.

Don't get this conversation as something personal. Just sharing my opinion. Honest and clear opinion for good or bad...

I hope you have nice trades and investments; in my opinion Hold NAV is the best you can do instead of sell it when some people dumps scaring everybody.

Regards.

Dear Diego, We are already in THE MOON.

Please, could you tell me the value of NAVCoin 2 months ago??

I'll do the maths for you, it moved around 1500-2500 sat.

We're heading 7000sat.

You don't need to do the maths for me. I bought a lot of NAV in july and I am perfectly fine to do the math. The problem I am refering to is that people should not be cheerleading here every 2 days that NAV will go to the moon because of the wonderful charts. Why ? Because you can fool other unexperienced investors and burn them. There is no need to do that.

please let people say what they want...

Don't forget to follow your own advice.

[bocyaj]

Wow, only 84 supporters away from our goal... NICE !  keep them coming.

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/47929-navcoin-powered-by-the-people

I was originally skeptical whether we would make it or not, but not any more.  What a great community we have here, glad to be part of it.

[juguelio]

OT:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/13/nicola-sturgeon-challenges-may-with-second-referendum-bill-scottish-independence-snp-conference

Let's go Scotland independent!
Fuck the Tories and Theresa May Thatcher!

So what if Scotland gets independent ? Then you will have your own politicians screwing you over. In Spain there is the same discussion with the Catalans. But the funny thing is that the Catalan politicians are equally corrupt as the politicians in Madrid. 

Just compare the policies of Westminster vs Hollyrod mate!

Scotland welcomes Europeans while in England xenophobia is growing very fast!
Esto va más allá de si un político es corrupto o no...

[for everet]

someone help my wallet synchronized.
It reported 0 connections

thank

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addnode=96.44.143.170
addnode=96.44.158.243

[Diego24]

I never told you stop saying anything.

Apparently you want me to stop saying that people should stop cheerleading. Maybe you don't like me to say it, but following your own advice I am completely entitled to keep saying this.

But you must understand people can be excited about the price, and projection. Why they must stop saying what they want?

I already explained why. Cheerleading hurts unexperienced investors. The NAV price is going nowhere at this moment, at least not to the moon. But all this nonsense that for every positive news that comes out people start shouting "Oh NAV will go to the moon now" ... come on, that's utter bullshit and when I see bullshit I react on it. I am not against NAV, I am against bullshit.

I didn't saw you telling anything about detractors and trolls,

Nonsense. I even called this German spammer IchBinEinSchwein which is German for "I am a pig". I am actually the guy that has written most amounts of posts against him. Stop lying about me.

you only say that about cheerleaders.

I ALSO started complain about cheerleaders because they behave like some teenage girl when she sees Justin Bieber and loses all rationality.

Maybe you sold coins in wrong moment? and you're afraid you can't rebuy them? That could be the reason you don't want people hyping or cheerleading... increasing the price....

Do you only read what you want to read ? Didn't you just read in my previous post that I have 75 % of my cryptoinvestment in NAV ? Why on earth would I need to buy any more NAV ? You think NAV is the only coin with value on this planet ? Even if NAV price goes to 1 Satoshi tomorrow, I will not buy any more NAV. I have already enough NAV. I bought my NAV in July at 1/3 of current price.

By the way you can see here nice developers giving properly assistance to investors, developing, testing and checking new features as you can see in slack channel, giving us periodic news about the project, and supporting with real money any kind of social support like the 20.000 NAVCoin for Thunderclap (1.5btc) (around 1000$)

You are SOOOOOOO COMPLETELY NOT UNDERSTANDING what I am complaining about. I am not complaining over the longterm. This guy was saying it will go up now because of the beautiful chart. Just like some other cheerleaders where doing 2 weeks ago when the whitepaper came up. Just like a bunch of other cheerleaders do on other threads. And I don't appreciate this nonsense of people that out of hope are seeing things that are not there. These people hurt investors.

[Diego24]

Scotland welcomes Europeans while in England xenophobia is growing very fast!
Esto va más allá de si un político es corrupto o no...

In all honesty I am 100 % pro Brexit and I wished my countries would leave the EU too. I am sick of this nonelected bureaucrats in Europe that have taken away democracy in all European countries. I am also 100 % pro Scotland exit if this is what the Scotts wants. But however, I am very sceptical that the Scottish politicians will rule in favour of their people. In order for real democracy that benefits the people a lot of things must change. In current times we don't have true democracy anywhere. We just have the illusion of it.

[CryptKeeper]

Wow, only 84 supporters away from our goal... NICE !  keep them coming.

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/47929-navcoin-powered-by-the-people

I was originally skeptical whether we would make it or not, but not any more.  What a great community we have here, glad to be part of it.

Just took part with my 3200 followers on twitter, now the social reach is over 320k!
    

[redjedievolution]

I'll stop talking with you because my goal was to understand why you don't like people excited about graph or whatever, and you complaining about cheerleading.
Now i understand you sold "part" of your coins in a bad moment scared by a dump and want to rebuy. You're saying you have your coins since July but you forgot what you said 5 of October, just 8 days ago..... about you sold part of your NAV in a dump.

You said you have 75% of your cryptoinvestment in NAV, but you said 8 days ago you sold part of your investment, and again now you say "why on earth would i need to buy any more NAV" well... maybe because you sold them.... as you said.

Do you only read what you want to read ? Didn't you just read in my previous post that I have 75 % of my cryptoinvestment in NAV ? Why on earth would I need to buy any more NAV ? You think NAV is the only coin with value on this planet ? Even if NAV price goes to 1 Satoshi tomorrow, I will not buy any more NAV. I have already enough NAV. I bought my NAV in July at 1/3 of current price.

For me this conversation has ended.

I never told you stop saying anything.

Apparently you want me to stop saying that people should stop cheerleading. Maybe you don't like me to say it, but following your own advice I am completely entitled to keep saying this.

But you must understand people can be excited about the price, and projection. Why they must stop saying what they want?

I already explained why. Cheerleading hurts unexperienced investors. The NAV price is going nowhere at this moment, at least not to the moon. But all this nonsense that for every positive news that comes out people start shouting "Oh NAV will go to the moon now" ... come on, that's utter bullshit and when I see bullshit I react on it. I am not against NAV, I am against bullshit.

I didn't saw you telling anything about detractors and trolls,

Nonsense. I even called this German spammer IchBinEinSchwein which is German for "I am a pig". I am actually the guy that has written most amounts of posts against him. Stop lying about me.

you only say that about cheerleaders.

I ALSO started complain about cheerleaders because they behave like some teenage girl when she sees Justin Bieber and loses all rationality.

Maybe you sold coins in wrong moment? and you're afraid you can't rebuy them? That could be the reason you don't want people hyping or cheerleading... increasing the price....

Do you only read what you want to read ? Didn't you just read in my previous post that I have 75 % of my cryptoinvestment in NAV ? Why on earth would I need to buy any more NAV ? You think NAV is the only coin with value on this planet ? Even if NAV price goes to 1 Satoshi tomorrow, I will not buy any more NAV. I have already enough NAV. I bought my NAV in July at 1/3 of current price.

By the way you can see here nice developers giving properly assistance to investors, developing, testing and checking new features as you can see in slack channel, giving us periodic news about the project, and supporting with real money any kind of social support like the 20.000 NAVCoin for Thunderclap (1.5btc) (around 1000$)

You are SOOOOOOO COMPLETELY NOT UNDERSTANDING what I am complaining about. I am not complaining over the longterm. This guy was saying it will go up now because of the beautiful chart. Just like some other cheerleaders where doing 2 weeks ago when the whitepaper came up. Just like a bunch of other cheerleaders do on other threads. And I don't appreciate this nonsense of people that out of hope are seeing things that are not there. These people hurt investors.

[shahim]

@for everet

I really can not believe you have these problems.

Are you sure you are using wallet version 3.7 ? Can you please make a screentshot from the debug window and the "getinfo" command to check this.
Nobody has these issues except you with the 3.7 Version. Also take care that wallet 3.7 requires addnodes with 3.7 version!

I mean this is no magic at all to get a wallet synced. In which country do you live and what kind of internet connection do you use?

Thank you! We wil lsolve your issue mate!

regards
shahim

[shahim]

Wow, only 84 supporters away from our goal... NICE !  keep them coming.

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/47929-navcoin-powered-by-the-people

I was originally skeptical whether we would make it or not, but not any more.  What a great community we have here, glad to be part of it.

Just took part with my 3200 followers on twitter, now the social reach is over 320k!
    

Thank you! So last few supporters are needed! Looking great with that campaign... seems like we have to pay these 20k to one lucky follower

[redjedievolution]

Wow its going really fast, still 7 days left and we're 85% goal supported with 423 people reaching over 322.000 !!!!!

I'm really impressed...

Wow, only 84 supporters away from our goal... NICE !  keep them coming.

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/47929-navcoin-powered-by-the-people

I was originally skeptical whether we would make it or not, but not any more.  What a great community we have here, glad to be part of it.

Just took part with my 3200 followers on twitter, now the social reach is over 320k!
    

Thank you! So last few supporters are needed! Looking great with that campaign... seems like we have to pay these 20k to one lucky follower

[for everet]

@for everet

I really can not believe you have these problems.

Are you sure you are using wallet version 3.7 ? Can you please make a screentshot from the debug window and the "getinfo" command to check this.
Nobody has these issues except you with the 3.7 Version. Also take care that wallet 3.7 requires addnodes with 3.7 version!

I mean this is no magic at all to get a wallet synced. In which country do you live and what kind of internet connection do you use?

Thank you! We wil lsolve your issue mate!

regards
shahim

@shahim

20:19:57

Welcome to the NavCoin RPC console.
Use up and down arrows to navigate history, and Ctrl-L to clear screen.
Type help for an overview of available commands.


20:39:49

getinfo


20:39:49

{
"version" : "v3.7.0.0-UT-ZAH-HA-DEZ-BIN",
"protocolversion" : 61400,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : xxxxx.82205476,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 434048,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 60197317.20526302,
"connections" : 0,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "0.0.0.0",
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.00010618,
"proof-of-stake" : 562491.80203879
},
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1476339527,
"keypoolsize" : 100,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}


note: sometimes still have 1 connection 
thank you

[Diego24]

I'll stop talking with you because my goal was to understand why you don't like people excited about graph or whatever, and you complaining about cheerleading.
Now i understand you sold "part" of your coins in a bad moment scared by a dump and want to rebuy. You're saying you have your coins since July but you forgot what you said 5 of October, just 8 days ago..... about you sold part of your NAV in a dump.

You said you have 75% of your cryptoinvestment in NAV, but you said 8 days ago you sold part of your investment, and again now you say "why on earth would i need to buy any more NAV" well... maybe because you sold them.... as you said.

WOW. Just WOW and WOW, triple WOW. I didn't forget about that part. I thought you actually already knew it when you replied in previous post. So now you openly admit that you reply to people without knowing anything about what was posted previously.

Yes, I did sell part of my NAV smartass, at 7000 sat. But maybe you overlooked the fact that NAV has went (and still is) lower in the past week !!! So maybe ... very maybe ... I bought back in ? What do you think ? Could it be possible that I bought back in ?

Also, what on earth are you smoking ? You really think that anyone here is so stupid to think by him saying something against NAV (which is not what I did, but in your strange world view I apperently did) the price will be dumped so he can buy more NAV ? This must really be the most naive thing I have ever read, even more naive than the cheerleading. How on earth can anyone really believe that my intention of complaining against the cheerleading is some evil plan I have to make NAV go down so I can buy more    I just can't stop laughing about that   Which superpowers do you think I possess ? 

And euhm ... great how you keep defending the "to the moon"cheerleaders. Always great to see that someone doesn't give a ratsass about people getting hurt by other's people nonsense. In the meanwhile the beautiful chart has gone underneath its moving average in the 15-30 min chart and is flirting with doing the same on the 4h chart, which is of course always the perfect moment to buy more NAV  

I don't want to look like a hater, but sometimes someone just has to say it when the amount of bullshit is becoming too big. I just can't tolerate it anymore that every 2 day someone is calling a NAV moonshot and then NAV gets smashed. That's just insane. In the weekend some people were calling a double bullish thing that would indicate another moonshot. Price crashed the next day  

[shahim]

@for everet

I really can not believe you have these problems.

Are you sure you are using wallet version 3.7 ? Can you please make a screentshot from the debug window and the "getinfo" command to check this.
Nobody has these issues except you with the 3.7 Version. Also take care that wallet 3.7 requires addnodes with 3.7 version!

I mean this is no magic at all to get a wallet synced. In which country do you live and what kind of internet connection do you use?

Thank you! We wil lsolve your issue mate!

regards
shahim

@shahim

20:19:57

Welcome to the NavCoin RPC console.
Use up and down arrows to navigate history, and Ctrl-L to clear screen.
Type help for an overview of available commands.


20:39:49

getinfo


20:39:49

{
"version" : "v3.7.0.0-UT-ZAH-HA-DEZ-BIN",
"protocolversion" : 61400,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : xxxxx.82205476,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 434048,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 60197317.20526302,
"connections" : 0,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "0.0.0.0",
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.00010618,
"proof-of-stake" : 562491.80203879
},
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1476339527,
"keypoolsize" : 100,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}


note: sometimes still have 1 connection 
thank you

Hi,

your node list is correct, I just checked. YOu are on the correct wallet version also.

I have copied your navcoin.conf to my computer and loaded the NavCoin 3.7 walletfrom our website. I had at least one connection after like 30 seconds.

What also irritates me is that you have 434048 blocks. The blockexplorer is actually at block 434258 , so only 200 Blocks behind and that means that your wallet has actually synced.

Can you post the last lines of your debug.log? what is it showing. Please let your wallet run a few minutes before doing so.

Thank you
shahim

[for everet]

@for everet

I really can not believe you have these problems.

Are you sure you are using wallet version 3.7 ? Can you please make a screentshot from the debug window and the "getinfo" command to check this.
Nobody has these issues except you with the 3.7 Version. Also take care that wallet 3.7 requires addnodes with 3.7 version!

I mean this is no magic at all to get a wallet synced. In which country do you live and what kind of internet connection do you use?

Thank you! We wil lsolve your issue mate!

regards
shahim

@shahim

20:19:57

Welcome to the NavCoin RPC console.
Use up and down arrows to navigate history, and Ctrl-L to clear screen.
Type help for an overview of available commands.


20:39:49

getinfo


20:39:49

{
"version" : "v3.7.0.0-UT-ZAH-HA-DEZ-BIN",
"protocolversion" : 61400,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : xxxxx.82205476,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 434048,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 60197317.20526302,
"connections" : 0,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "0.0.0.0",
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.00010618,
"proof-of-stake" : 562491.80203879
},
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1476339527,
"keypoolsize" : 100,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}


note: sometimes still have 1 connection  
thank you

Hi,

your node list is correct, I just checked. YOu are on the correct wallet version also.

I have copied your navcoin.conf to my computer and loaded the NavCoin 3.7 walletfrom our website. I had at least one connection after like 30 seconds.

What also irritates me is that you have 434048 blocks. The blockexplorer is actually at block 434258 , so only 200 Blocks behind and that means that your wallet has actually synced.

Can you post the last lines of your debug.log? what is it showing. Please let your wallet run a few minutes before doing so.

Thank you
shahim

@shahim

GUI: QObject::connect: No such signal ClientModel::showProgress(QString,int)
GUI: QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'navcoin')
GUI: QObject::connect: Cannot connect (null)::showProgress(QString,int) to BitcoinGUI::showProgress(QString,int)
GUI: QObject::connect: No such signal WalletModel::balanceChanged(qint64, qint64, qint64, qint64)
GUI: QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'SendCoinsDialog')
GUI: QObject::connect: No such slot BitcoinGUI::error(QString,QString,bool)
GUI: QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'navcoin')
No valid UPnP IGDs found
upnp thread exit
Loading addresses from DNS seeds (could take a while)
1 addresses found from DNS seeds
dnsseed thread exit
keypool reserve 1
keypool return 1
socket recv error 10054

sometimes still have 1 connection to sync very long

[for everet]

@shahim

2 hours later still no connection