[ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes

[georgem]

Hm, can you imagine?

Running your DM on a synology NAS?

I have this synology 4-bay device:



It runs 24/7 and uses very little electricity.

I heard that you can run your own java apps on those machines....

so why not make it easy for all those NAS users to install a DM on their silent reliable machines that are on 24/7?

I found something in a synology forum:

http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=190&t=79335

http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=223&t=92287


Could it be possible to create a java version of spreadcoin that is able to run in DM mode?

[Mr. Spread]

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

[NoobKidOnTheBlock]

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

That is what I love to hear Mr. Spread You are the one who knows how you have made your coin and the implementations that you have put forth into your coin Wonderful work by the way

[Jestah]

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult.  While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN?   What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?  

Thanks!

[MyFarm]

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult.  While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN?   What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?  

The reference nodes.

[Jestah]

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult.  While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN?   What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?  

The reference nodes.

Oh, it was my understanding that they were never intended to remain. Was I mistaken?

Thanks for answering!

[NoobKidOnTheBlock]

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right

[MyFarm]

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult.  While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN?   What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?  

The reference nodes.

Oh, it was my understanding that they were never intended to remain. Was I mistaken?

Thanks for answering!

No, they're not intended to remain.  But until they are successfully removed (Evan has struggled a bit with this) Darkcoin's masternode implementation is centralized.  Now, I do believe they will be removed at some point but it has taken Evan a lot longer than I anticipated it would.  It has been a bit surprising how long it has taken in fact.  I still hold plenty of Darkcoin and believe in it, but until Evan is able to remove the reference nodes, I'm not a buyer.

[MyFarm]

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right

Yes, I've always said Mr. Spread coded the new implementation himself.  But notice he called them masternodes?  Because the concept he coded is that of a masternode.

I wouldn't call Spreadcoin masternodes Darkcoin masternodes and I wouldn't call Darkcoin masternodes Spreadcoin masternodes.  But both implementations are masternodes.

[njs811]

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them. Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

[NoobKidOnTheBlock]

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right

Yes, I've always said Mr. Spread coded the new implementation himself.  But notice he called them masternodes?  Because the concept he coded is that of a masternode.

I wouldn't call Spreadcoin masternodes Darkcoin masternodes and I wouldn't call Darkcoin masternodes Spreadcoin masternodes.  But both implementations are masternodes.

Okay gotcha lol I was just curious if that made a difference or not but mainly just making conversation lol

[njs811]

We have all been confused about the similarity until Mr. Spread showed up. The average user will be confused even more. Call them Spreadnodes, or etc, so that the confusion will end. If Spreadnodes are an improvement we need to let the world know that it started here first.

[girino]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

[njs811]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

[girino]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

[njs811]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

Edit: This is no different than SpreadX11 or X11. Similar code, but 1 major difference!

[defunctec]

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

I'v never been so happy to be corrected

[girino]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

so if a build a house from the ground up i must not call it house anymore because it was build from the ground up? WTF???

[girino]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

Edit: This is no different than SpreadX11 or X11. Similar code, but 1 major difference!

Well, X11 is a good example. You are saying that my miner and wolf0 optimized miner do not mine X11 because we coded them from the ground up? So my miner should be called G11 and his W11?

[defunctec]

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

Edit: This is no different than SpreadX11 or X11. Similar code, but 1 major difference!

Well, X11 is a good example. You are saying that my miner and wolf0 optimized miner do not mine X11 because we coded them from the ground up? So my miner should be called G11 and his W11?

Why not?