#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

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Can anybody still access wink.org? I cannot. Are they gone?

And btw Nitrobetting.eu is the same company as Nitrogensports, so it makes no sense to have one listed higher than the other. Both are pretty decent.

I just tried and can't get in to wink.org. True, Nitrogensports and Nitrobetting are the same company but in sticking with the forum guidelines, Nitrobetting will have to be in business for 2 years to get that A+ rating. It is somewhat unfair to Nitrobetting, but it's best to stick with forum rules and to limit exceptions. Nitrobetting will be bumped to B+ in 2022 as long as there are no hiccups. Then A+ in 2023 if things remain the same.

[buwaytress]

Coming back here to comment after some period of time. This is just a comment, not a request to alter ratings!

On KYC: I think now in this climate of increased AML/KYC pressures on sportsbooks and casinos, very soon you may need to adjust the categorisation of KYC into Yes or No (KYC possible or anon) because I think crypto books now have no choice but to comply. Obviously, no one wants to KYC on entry, so they all have different systems for triggering a KYC check (as regulators now also haven't decided).

On security (paying out): I've never had any trouble with FJ, SB, Stake, Fairlay, Betcoin, despite 3+ years on all of them -- and with FJ, Betcoin and SB, whose support are either on social media or on this forum, account issues (blocks, etc) have all been fixed once they know it's my account.

One important caveat I should say as a matter of self-awareness: I believe this is in part due to my account age, and also forum account reputation and interaction (not that I'm DT or anything, but that I'm a known player to their support, being active on their threads/social media). Stake I deal with through regular support, and my account here has no bearings on their responses haha.

In all cases, we're also talking about significant deposits and payouts over the years, dollar-value anyway but certainly BTC value for those I started a long time ago.

I don't know if the same benefits of no KYC and flexibility would apply to a new player of whom they have no prior knowledge.

Final note: So yes, these are my popular picks... and I actually no longer play at the only one listed A+ here. And if you ask me about security, I wouldn't be depositing so soon at a new site like playbetr... I feel like needing to be in business and having proven large payouts with no issues, is what would tell me is "security" of funds.

Otherwise, in my objectivity, Stake, Sportsbet, FJ, are what I'd recommend to people who want to know they get paid when they win, along with Betcoin. It does feel odd to see them clumped in "C" right next to scam sites, when in my practical understanding, all these sites actually have the same KYC "risk", despite what each may disclose publicly.

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Coming back here to comment after some period of time. This is just a comment, not a request to alter ratings!

On KYC: I think now in this climate of increased AML/KYC pressures on sportsbooks and casinos, very soon you may need to adjust the categorisation of KYC into Yes or No (KYC possible or anon) because I think crypto books now have no choice but to comply. Obviously, no one wants to KYC on entry, so they all have different systems for triggering a KYC check (as regulators now also haven't decided).

On security (paying out): I've never had any trouble with FJ, SB, Stake, Fairlay, Betcoin, despite 3+ years on all of them -- and with FJ, Betcoin and SB, whose support are either on social media or on this forum, account issues (blocks, etc) have all been fixed once they know it's my account.

One important caveat I should say as a matter of self-awareness: I believe this is in part due to my account age, and also forum account reputation and interaction (not that I'm DT or anything, but that I'm a known player to their support, being active on their threads/social media). Stake I deal with through regular support, and my account here has no bearings on their responses haha.

In all cases, we're also talking about significant deposits and payouts over the years, dollar-value anyway but certainly BTC value for those I started a long time ago.

I don't know if the same benefits of no KYC and flexibility would apply to a new player of whom they have no prior knowledge.

Final note: So yes, these are my popular picks... and I actually no longer play at the only one listed A+ here. And if you ask me about security, I wouldn't be depositing so soon at a new site like playbetr... I feel like needing to be in business and having proven large payouts with no issues, is what would tell me is "security" of funds.

Otherwise, in my objectivity, Stake, Sportsbet, FJ, are what I'd recommend to people who want to know they get paid when they win, along with Betcoin. It does feel odd to see them clumped in "C" right next to scam sites, when in my practical understanding, all these sites actually have the same KYC "risk", despite what each may disclose publicly.

buwaytress,I have been dragging my feet on KYC. Instead of just "yes" or "no", I'll rank that on how heavy handed they are with KYC, 1-5 since the degree is different book by book. Normally more than 1 person would have to post a thought for a grade upgrade but you made some great points.

Upgrades are stair by stair. Once an upgrade is given, it will take some time before another upgrade can be given. Stake upgraded from (C+) to (B-). FJ upgraded from (C) to (C+). Sportsbet is the only book that may not reply to inquires if there are problems with a book or other questions. Their rating will remain the same.  Betcoin and Playbetr are sister books and Playbetr has been in business for 2 years which is why they have an (A) rating. Nitrobetting would be rated (A) if they were in business for 2 years. Nitrogen and Betcoin definitely warrant to be in the (A) category. Both have been in business since 2013, have a clean record, very light handed on KYC and very easy to deal with if a problem should occur. Both you and Ralle have reported Wink being down and they will be removed from having a rating.

Thank you for the insightful post that I'm sure is informative to all. It's always good to see posters such as you and Ralle with gambling and forum experience here in this thread.


edit - for everyone, please do not assume that one post will change a grade. Everyone will have different opinions and there will have to be strong sentiment, recent problems or a clean sheet to move grades. In rare cases one post will change a grade. Even if a grade isn't immediately moved, all posts will be taken into consideration for future grade moves. Not moving a grade from a post isn't a disregard of an opinion.

[ralle14]

Here's a few crypto sportsbook that could be added in the not rated list.

casinoroyale (their odds are close to nitrogensports)
Freebitcoin (their betting section is a bit different than the regular bookies but they probably fall under mutual betting once they're rated)
Coinroyale
Roobet (they have KYC though)
Betcrypt

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Here's a few crypto sportsbook that could be added in the not rated list.

casinoroyale (their odds are close to nitrogensports)
Freebitcoin (their betting section is a bit different than the regular bookies but they probably fall under mutual betting once they're rated)
Coinroyale
Roobet (they have KYC though)
Betcrypt

Thanks as always Ralle. I added those books under NR along with your comments. I'll put those up in the proper categories you mentioned shortly. Ratings will go up later.

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Please post comments, reviews, praises and complaints here.

Although this is a player's thread, books are encouraged to post. The only rule for books is to keep their conversation to their own book and not that of another book.


"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)    
playbetr.com A- (2019)        

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
nitrobetting.eu C+ (2021)
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C- (2013)  
Bitsler.com C- (2015)  
Btb88.com C- (2020)


D and F RATED BOOKS ARE HIGH RISK BOOKS AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED

"D" rated books  
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)  
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)
AceDbets.io D (2020)
Cryptobet.com D (2020)
1xbit.com D (2016)
  


Exchanges
exbet.io (2019)
fairlay.com (2014)
degens.com (2017)
sportx.bet (2019)
tru.bet

Prediction Markets
augur.net (2015)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
freebitco.in
thunderpick.com

Brokers
asianconnect88.com (2014)
betinasia.com

Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.


"F" rated books or out of business
1x2coinsportsbook (2018)
Ball2Win
Betbit
BetCas
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
Betlake.com
betmatch.io closed 2018.
Betraft.com
Betroar.io (2020)
BetVIP
Bitbook
Bitbm
Bitcoinsport
Bitcoinlivebets
Bitcoinrush.io
Bitgame.online (2017)
bitsport.bet
Blockbet
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet
Coindrafts (2014)
Dimecrypto.eu
DirectBet
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo (2013)
Jetwin.ps
Kawbet.com (2020)
Malubit (2019)
Match365
Powerbet (2016)
Sportbet.im
StakeBTC
Webetcoins
webet7.com

Not rated.
Bet365.com
Betop.gg
Betnomi.com
Bitgame.com
Latinbet24.com
Pitibet.io
Trustdice.win
Wolf.bet

The following information was added by Ralle.
casinoroyale (their odds are close to nitrogensports)
Coinroyale
Roobet (they have KYC though)
Betcrypt

[brassnuts]

I said it before but Betja should not have F rating. They pay out prompt every time and have been around, and paying out, for many months now.

I know Peep's Place said that he had some past issue that was unresolved, perhaps that is why?

F rating seems too harsh in my experience, however, and I use them all the time. In fact, I prefer them to all other books because it's just sports and I don't have to play with all the other crap going on, plus odds are unbeatable. No way on earth should it be rated worse than 1xbit, good lord!

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[ralle14]

I said it before but Betja should not have F rating. They pay out prompt every time and have been around, and paying out, for many months now.

I know Peep's Place said that he had some past issue that was unresolved, perhaps that is why?

F rating seems too harsh in my experience, however, and I use them all the time. In fact, I prefer them to all other books because it's just sports and I don't have to play with all the other crap going on, plus odds are unbeatable. No way on earth should it be rated worse than 1xbit, good lord!

I guess it's because Betja was launched this year and most of the sportsbooks that are higher rated have been operating for years.

We'll have to give it more time for now or maybe Peeps wanted to see more feedback from others as I remember other users tried to push Sportsbet up in the rating back then.

[brassnuts]

I said it before but Betja should not have F rating. They pay out prompt every time and have been around, and paying out, for many months now.

I know Peep's Place said that he had some past issue that was unresolved, perhaps that is why?

F rating seems too harsh in my experience, however, and I use them all the time. In fact, I prefer them to all other books because it's just sports and I don't have to play with all the other crap going on, plus odds are unbeatable. No way on earth should it be rated worse than 1xbit, good lord!

I guess it's because Betja was launched this year and most of the sportsbooks that are higher rated have been operating for years.

We'll have to give it more time for now or maybe Peeps wanted to see more feedback from others as I remember other users tried to push Sportsbet up in the rating back then.

Yes, understandable.

They still paying me out fine tho, and I reiterate, they are underrated and do not deserve an F.

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I said it before but Betja should not have F rating. They pay out prompt every time and have been around, and paying out, for many months now.

I know Peep's Place said that he had some past issue that was unresolved, perhaps that is why?

F rating seems too harsh in my experience, however, and I use them all the time. In fact, I prefer them to all other books because it's just sports and I don't have to play with all the other crap going on, plus odds are unbeatable. No way on earth should it be rated worse than 1xbit, good lord!

I guess it's because Betja was launched this year and most of the sportsbooks that are higher rated have been operating for years.

We'll have to give it more time for now or maybe Peeps wanted to see more feedback from others as I remember other users tried to push Sportsbet up in the rating back then.

Yes, understandable.

They still paying me out fine tho, and I reiterate, they are underrated and do not deserve an F.

I didn't take down the rating above but yesterday I did move it to NR on the first page.. Betja was nice enough to answer a lot of questions that I gave to them and I'm looking into them deeper.

Just took down the "F" from the previous post above.

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KYC requirements on a graduated scale.
0 = never
5 = mandatory


"A" rated books
1 nitrogensports.eu
1 betcoin.ag    
1 playbetr.com        

"B"rated books
1 mBet.io Horse racing..
2 stake.com

"C" rated books
2 fortunejack.com
1 nitrobetting.eu
3 anonibet.com  
2 sportsbet.io  
2 cloudbet.com
2 Bitsler.com
5 Btb88.com

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New book Bet365crypto.net

[Adzivu]

Do you guys know which crypto bookies offer horse racing (except mbet.io) and which one offer corners or cards bets on major football leagues?

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New book Owl.games

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Nitrobetting raised to "B+". It takes two years to qualify for an "A" rating.



"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)    
playbetr.com A- (2019)        

"B"rated books
nitrobetting.eu B+ (2021)
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C- (2013)  
Bitsler.com C- (2015)  
Btb88.com C- (2020)


D and F RATED BOOKS ARE HIGH RISK BOOKS AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED

"D" rated books  
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)  
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)
AceDbets.io D (2020)
Cryptobet.com D (2020)
1xbit.com D (2016)

[Rating Place]

This warning is given out every year. Only play at top books for the Super Bowl and World Cup. Books that go under are more likely to do it after big events. March Madness is another popular time for books to go under.

No rating upgrades will go up until a week or two after the Super Bowl to check payout statuses.

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Please post a review of the unrated books if you are playing there. A rating will come up some time after the Super Bowl.

Not rated.
Bet365.com
Bet365crypto.net
Betja.com
Betop.gg
Betnomi.com
Bitgame.com
Latinbet24.com
Owl.games
Pitibet.io
Trustdice.win
Wolf.bet

[Rating Place]

Sweat the game, not the payout. Play with top books for the Super Bowl. Play at other books if wanted later.


"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)    
playbetr.com A- (2019)        

"B"rated books
nitrobetting.eu B+ (2021)
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

Feel free to post any Super Bowl contests.

[ralle14]

Here's a small list of bookies that already announced their super bowl promotions and contest. So far, Stake's promo is the best out of the four if you're going for a single bet and at the same time taking the Rams or the Bengals.

Stake's Halftime Payout/ Double Winning
Fortunejack NFL Superbowl Freebet
Nitrogensports Superbowl Props Contest
Sportsbet Multi Master Contest