GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[suchmoon]

This is quite amusing. 

I would hope that GAW customers begin to ask themselves if this is a rigged game.  They do not disclose rules at the start, then when rules are discovered or arm-twisted out of them, they feel free to change them if it makes GAW more money.

They then tell you they are taking your payouts away from you "for your own good."

I guess I don't agree with this. You use a way to to profit from an unintended use any company out there would fix/disable it.

Fix - yes. Disable - why? If there were small orders skewing NiceHash averages all GAW had to do was use just enough hashrate to chew up those orders IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ANY HASHRATE, which is what has been discussed for about 80 pages now. They would have taken advantage of the larger payout, and at the same time removed the incentive for anyone to attempt this again. Win-win-win for all involved except the ones who put up fake orders. The only reason this whole thing even happened is because GAW decided to outsmart "uneducated regular guys" running the pools and meddle with the natural order of things, like the cycle of profitability and difficulty in mining.

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[I_IZ_CEO]

Very nice find! The doosh could of at least said thank you and even paid back what you lost finding the problem (and even a hashlet or 2), what does he do? LIES... Phil goodnight

 So six minutes after I post I get an email from them telling me oh your emails were in my spam box . We would have rewarded you well but you posted it on bitcointalk so  we are not helping you or rewarding you.  I was not looking for a reward as much as I was looking to get my testing funds back. Frankly they may have been robbed a lot of btc.  As nicehash has had some wild crazy high payouts on sha256. At times 2x the norm  I am pretty sure they were being exploited in that pool as I was able to duplicate the method of attack at my own expense.

Well by reading your posts I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT and that is good to the community, I also know what eric/josh/gaw are about. Keep up the good work!

[Honeycutt22]

Very nice find! The doosh could of at least said thank you and even paid back what you lost finding the problem (and even a hashlet or 2), what does he do? LIES... Phil goodnight

 So six minutes after I post I get an email from them telling me oh your emails were in my spam box . We would have rewarded you well but you posted it on bitcointalk so  we are not helping you or rewarding you.  I was not looking for a reward as much as I was looking to get my testing funds back. Frankly they may have been robbed a lot of btc.  As nicehash has had some wild crazy high payouts on sha256. At times 2x the norm  I am pretty sure they were being exploited in that pool as I was able to duplicate the method of attack at my own expense.

Well by reading your posts I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT and that is good to the community, I also know what eric/josh/gaw are about. Keep up the good work!

STFU Troll

[sk00t3r]

Fix - yes. Disable - why? If there were small orders skewing NiceHash averages all GAW had to do was use just enough hashrate to chew up those orders IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ANY HASHRATE, which is what has been discussed for about 80 pages now. They would have taken advantage of the larger payout, and at the same time removed the incentive for anyone to attempt this again. Win-win-win for all involved except the ones who put up fake orders. The only reason this whole thing even happened is because GAW decided to outsmart "uneducated regular guys" running the pools and meddle with the natural order of things, like the cycle of profitability and difficulty in mining.

Yeah I guess I should have left disable out. I would much rather see a fix. I don't know (or pretend to know) how GAW's hash/payouts operate. I have a couple cloud miners from them just to play with. I am still pretty new to this game.

[suchmoon]

I hope Philip gets his BTC for the effort. From the other thread:

I have been thanked via pm from  GAW Miners_Ceo

he promised me a btc bounty.

[Mapuo]

I have bad feelings for my S3s, nicehash was the reason for my purchase, and now is gone...

[suchmoon]

I have bad feelings for my S3s, nicehash was the reason for my purchase, and now is gone...

Oh, so it's not just hashlets, you can't use NiceHash with "hardware" either? That's brilliant...

[tf315]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

[kingscrown]

can somebody put it in tl;dr form as i were busy and dont know whats up

[corsaro]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

nicehash SHA-256 pool is working fine, and actually my real sha-256 rigs are pointed to it

It was just GAWMiners that is not offering it anymore for its hashlets.

There is no bug and they just removed nicehash pool from hashlets. Nicehash has unusual high profitability on sha-256 in these days.
Anyway my physical sha-256 rigs are paid regularly from nicehash now.

[EvilPanda]

can somebody put it in tl;dr form as i were busy and dont know whats up

The trolls are trolling as always. For example, one of them just promised to start an anti GAW signature campaign, that will pay better than the oryginal one. I'd love to see that.  
The rest are just repeating the usual "lack of transparency" mantra.

[Mapuo]

I have bad feelings for my S3s, nicehash was the reason for my purchase, and now is gone...

Oh, so it's not just hashlets, you can't use NiceHash with "hardware" either? That's brilliant...

Correct and there's the whole discussion revolves around virtual miners.

[tf315]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

nicehash SHA-256 pool is working fine, and actually my real sha-256 rigs are pointed to it

It was just GAWMiners that is not offering it anymore for its hashlets.

There is no bug and they just removed nicehash pool from hashlets, due to the fact it has unusual high profitability on sha-256 in these days.
Anyway my physical sha-256 rigs are paid regularly from nicehash now.

My local miners are pointed there as well. The ones hosted at Zen ('physical') no longer have that option so its not just hashlets (virtual) that can't use it.

[corsaro]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

nicehash SHA-256 pool is working fine, and actually my real sha-256 rigs are pointed to it

It was just GAWMiners that is not offering it anymore for its hashlets.

There is no bug and they just removed nicehash pool from hashlets, due to the fact it has high profitability on sha-256 now

Which proves that they aren't actually mining sha-256, which would also make sense that they're actually a ponzi scheme.

my physical SHA-256 miners (360 Ghs) , today got paid from nicehash 0.00973150 BTC
So nicehash is working very fine now.
There is no bug on nicehash. I mine on nicehash since 2 months now and I receive every day real BTC

[EvilPanda]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

nicehash SHA-256 pool is working fine, and actually my real sha-256 rigs are pointed to it

It was just GAWMiners that is not offering it anymore for its hashlets.

There is no bug and they just removed nicehash pool from hashlets, due to the fact it has high profitability on sha-256 now

Which proves that they aren't actually mining sha-256, which would also make sense that they're actually a ponzi scheme.

Want to test me bud? I'll run an anti-gaw campaign and blame it on you.

Rates:
0.1BTC per month for posting with our signature as Full Member
0.2BTC per month for posting with our signature as Senior or Hero Member
The offer is limited to 100
You get paid 3 days after signing up.

Too easy.

I'm sure I can start gathering BTC from GAW's competition to actually start such a campaign.

All you've posted from the moment you made this acount was a pile of steaming crap, starting with that $15k.
You made multiple threads and abandoned them when someone asked you for a proof.
Time to put money where your mouth is.
 

[alienesb]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

nicehash SHA-256 pool is working fine, and actually my real sha-256 rigs are pointed to it

It was just GAWMiners that is not offering it anymore for its hashlets.

There is no bug and they just removed nicehash pool from hashlets, due to the fact it has high profitability on sha-256 now

Which proves that they aren't actually mining sha-256, which would also make sense that they're actually a ponzi scheme.

Want to test me bud? I'll run an anti-gaw campaign and blame it on you.

Rates:
0.1BTC per month for posting with our signature as Full Member
0.2BTC per month for posting with our signature as Senior or Hero Member
The offer is limited to 100
You get paid 3 days after signing up.

Too easy.

I'm sure I can start gathering BTC from GAW's competition to actually start such a campaign.

Soooo... you're going to pay with the money they are already giving you or are you getting addition funds?

[I_IZ_CEO]

It is very hard for me to believe that people still think they are mining coins and are using the pools that they list for the names of the shashlets..

As far as I understand this is not a "BUG" on nicehash' pool, a lot of the time the price goes up when there is a demand for some coins and people pay more to rent out rigs on their site? Kinda they same way the price of the hashlets went up from 15.99 to 49.99, supply and demand GAW?

[suchmoon]

Not sure what to make of this:

@GAW_CEO said:

@andromeda66 said:

@Goddethroned said:

@Warbigold

If Josh opens up the market, I'd gladly buy Genesis from you at a discounted rate
me too

+1

not going to happen like that.

Does it mean no market, or no selling at discount or what?

[bitgeek]

To be clear - this is not a 'flaw' in a pool (NiceHash/WestHash) that needs to be fixed. Its a 'flaw' in GAW's business model.

nicehash SHA-256 pool is working fine, and actually my real sha-256 rigs are pointed to it

It was just GAWMiners that is not offering it anymore for its hashlets.

There is no bug and they just removed nicehash pool from hashlets, due to the fact it has high profitability on sha-256 now

Which proves that they aren't actually mining sha-256, which would also make sense that they're actually a ponzi scheme.

Want to test me bud? I'll run an anti-gaw campaign and blame it on you.

Rates:
0.1BTC per month for posting with our signature as Full Member
0.2BTC per month for posting with our signature as Senior or Hero Member
The offer is limited to 100
You get paid 3 days after signing up.

Too easy.

I'm sure I can start gathering BTC from GAW's competition to actually start such a campaign.

Soooo... you're going to pay with the money they are already giving you or are you getting addition funds?

He first had to go  to his other account to create a distraction.

[suchmoon]

can somebody put it in tl;dr form as i were busy and dont know whats up

If you mean the NiceHash issue, there is a shorter thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=777194