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Okay Josh the ceo of zen-gaw and I had a long talk via pm. He paid me 1.75btc .
0.75btc was to repay the money I spent to figure the nicehash issue out.
1.0btc was a finders fee for saving his company a possible huge financial setback if this was done after the large fri sha256 was done.
I wish I had been able to explain this easier and simpler and not cased the drama that has occurred.
But plain and simple If I had figured out Mt Gox 1 week sooner and saved that day I would have. If I figured out BIPs in advance and saved 1000 lost coins I would have. If I had been able to do this for trade fortress I would have.
I also think in each case I would have pissed off a lot of people. No matter had I did it. I know that I pissed off people here was not my intent. I still have an S-3 mining in the zen cloud and it will earn less. I want to point out they stopped the problem and knowing them they will come up with a better idea. I still feel like I walked up to them and said your left nut is bad it has to go. Or if you arer a girl your left ovary is bad time to cut it out. the pain today is real but in the long run you will survive. To their credit they did give me a bounty and did not fluff off the problem. If they were MT Gox they would have run.
Josh thank you for being a stand up guy. Plus a man of your word.
I think that what you did was right and please stop worrying about the naysayers. I almost looks like you are starting every post on hashtalk with an apology ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . It's not your fault that the system was messed up, it's not your fault that someone took advantage of it, it's not your fault your e-mail got caught up in spam filters and let's face it, a lot of people in your position would have kept it to themselves and enjoyed the few more days of extra gains ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I may not share your optimism about how GAW will handle this in the long run, but this doesn't change the fact that you did the right thing and it's great to have you in the forums. +100 - go have a beer and pat yourself on the back for saving them, and by extension, us (well some of us?) a potential loss. I commend Josh for the 1 btc he gave you, but personally, i probably would have given you a few more, considering the loss could have been huge without the exposure, but hey, take what you get i guess. I feel a bit better about them overall as well. thanks. Now the trolls will have their say.. :\
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September 11, 2014, 12:12:25 AM |
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I currently have 12 people who want to start the Anti-Gaw campaign, I'll be launching it tomorrow. Anyone from newbz to heros can partake in this signature campaign.
It will be funded by various pool owners and Gaw competition.
Have a good night all.
as i said... trolls be a trollin'... Lol
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September 11, 2014, 12:23:03 AM |
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Okay Josh the ceo of zen-gaw and I had a long talk via pm. He paid me 1.75btc .
0.75btc was to repay the money I spent to figure the nicehash issue out.
1.0btc was a finders fee for saving his company a possible huge financial setback if this was done after the large fri sha256 was done.
I wish I had been able to explain this easier and simpler and not cased the drama that has occurred.
But plain and simple If I had figured out Mt Gox 1 week sooner and saved that day I would have. If I figured out BIPs in advance and saved 1000 lost coins I would have. If I had been able to do this for trade fortress I would have.
I also think in each case I would have pissed off a lot of people. No matter had I did it. I know that I pissed off people here was not my intent. I still have an S-3 mining in the zen cloud and it will earn less. I want to point out they stopped the problem and knowing them they will come up with a better idea. I still feel like I walked up to them and said your left nut is bad it has to go. Or if you arer a girl your left ovary is bad time to cut it out. the pain today is real but in the long run you will survive. To their credit they did give me a bounty and did not fluff off the problem. If they were MT Gox they would have run.
Josh thank you for being a stand up guy. Plus a man of your word.
I think that what you did was right and please stop worrying about the naysayers. I almost looks like you are starting every post on hashtalk with an apology ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . It's not your fault that the system was messed up, it's not your fault that someone took advantage of it, it's not your fault your e-mail got caught up in spam filters and let's face it, a lot of people in your position would have kept it to themselves and enjoyed the few more days of extra gains ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I may not share your optimism about how GAW will handle this in the long run, but this doesn't change the fact that you did the right thing and it's great to have you in the forums. +100 - go have a beer and pat yourself on the back for saving them, and by extension, us (well some of us?) a potential loss. I commend Josh for the 1 btc he gave you, but personally, i probably would have given you a few more, considering the loss could have been huge without the exposure, but hey, take what you get i guess. I feel a bit better about them overall as well. thanks. Now the trolls will have their say.. :\ yeah a lot of drama. I did not want to see zen facing a .04 or .045 payout per 1th of gear come sunday or monday vs .019-.022 per th norm Or a slick group that would milk it for .027 per th a lot but not enough to really draw attention.
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September 11, 2014, 12:56:31 AM |
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HAHA
From Mr. CEO
"User Abuse System We have implemented a new system rule for users abusing the forum.
If your account reputation goes to "-10 points", your account will be automatically banned.
Thank you"
So Volder and his 10 accounts can ban you forever.
Communist laws are set! Some people got -50 just on one post and asked legit questions..
now say if 10 people got together and gave -1 point to say ummm.... Volder, Eric, resellers, etc.. would this work?
I think Phil got -1 (many)points for finding something that would of cost gaw some monies....
Idiot should mine on the pools that he claimed he was mining on - a small fee....
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September 11, 2014, 01:01:48 AM |
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Okay Josh the ceo of zen-gaw and I had a long talk via pm. He paid me 1.75btc .
0.75btc was to repay the money I spent to figure the nicehash issue out.
1.0btc was a finders fee for saving his company a possible huge financial setback if this was done after the large fri sha256 was done.
I wish I had been able to explain this easier and simpler and not cased the drama that has occurred.
But plain and simple If I had figured out Mt Gox 1 week sooner and saved that day I would have. If I figured out BIPs in advance and saved 1000 lost coins I would have. If I had been able to do this for trade fortress I would have.
I also think in each case I would have pissed off a lot of people. No matter had I did it. I know that I pissed off people here was not my intent. I still have an S-3 mining in the zen cloud and it will earn less. I want to point out they stopped the problem and knowing them they will come up with a better idea. I still feel like I walked up to them and said your left nut is bad it has to go. Or if you arer a girl your left ovary is bad time to cut it out. the pain today is real but in the long run you will survive. To their credit they did give me a bounty and did not fluff off the problem. If they were MT Gox they would have run.
Josh thank you for being a stand up guy. Plus a man of your word.
I think that what you did was right and please stop worrying about the naysayers. I almost looks like you are starting every post on hashtalk with an apology ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . It's not your fault that the system was messed up, it's not your fault that someone took advantage of it, it's not your fault your e-mail got caught up in spam filters and let's face it, a lot of people in your position would have kept it to themselves and enjoyed the few more days of extra gains ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I may not share your optimism about how GAW will handle this in the long run, but this doesn't change the fact that you did the right thing and it's great to have you in the forums. +100 - go have a beer and pat yourself on the back for saving them, and by extension, us (well some of us?) a potential loss. I commend Josh for the 1 btc he gave you, but personally, i probably would have given you a few more, considering the loss could have been huge without the exposure, but hey, take what you get i guess. I feel a bit better about them overall as well. thanks. Now the trolls will have their say.. :\ yeah a lot of drama. I did not want to see zen facing a .04 or .045 payout per 1th of gear come sunday or monday vs .019-.022 per th norm Or a slick group that would milk it for .027 per th a lot but not enough to really draw attention. You my friend have a conscience and I wish more earthlings were like you. I might dislike Gaw because I have my reasons but you did the right thing! I hope you had a good lunch at the shore. Stayed at Avon By The Sea for 2 weeks and will be back out there soon.
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September 11, 2014, 01:07:49 AM |
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for such flaw you propably deserve more BTC or ie some free hashlets
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September 11, 2014, 01:11:19 AM |
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I am really happy whit my hashlets
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September 11, 2014, 01:22:06 AM |
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I am really happy whit my hashlets
That's great! Good luck and ignore the trolls ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 11, 2014, 01:35:07 AM |
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So, after going through this thread.. I only have one question. Is MemCID like a spurned ex-gf of Gaw's owner?
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September 11, 2014, 01:52:28 AM |
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So, after going through this thread.. I only have one question. Is MemCID like a spurned ex-gf of Gaw's owner?
I'm someone who lost a lot of money investing in GAWMiners from day 1. Cool. so your just a sore-ass butthurt loser? Thanks for confirmation, but get over it moron. Learn a lesson like we all have once or twice and move the f on... unreal... :\
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September 11, 2014, 02:30:25 AM |
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So, after going through this thread.. I only have one question. Is MemCID like a spurned ex-gf of Gaw's owner?
I'm someone who lost a lot of money investing in GAWMiners from day 1. Would love to see some proof ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 11, 2014, 02:33:24 AM |
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So, after going through this thread.. I only have one question. Is MemCID like a spurned ex-gf of Gaw's owner?
I'm someone who lost a lot of money investing in GAWMiners from day 1. Would love to see some proof ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Good luck with that. He's a complete moron/IDIOT!!
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September 11, 2014, 02:49:17 AM |
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I made a post on Hashtalk, not too ranty and not with poor language, explaining that the removing the nicehash sha pool wouldnt have been necessary if GAW were actually mining in the pools that we are selecting.
Essentially that they are having their cake and eating it too if they want to mine on the hardware to make a profit, charge maintenance, and pay us a pool payout if its less than what they make and cry foul if it happens to be more. Moreover, they do this on Scrypt as well but because there is ZenPool which has a higher payout we are more willing to overlook it. Creating a ZenPool-like pool for SHA would be a better alternative if they don't want to actually mine where we point to. I also stated that they should remove the pool selection from zencloud and have us just own a portion of their mining business if they are not going to do this.
Anyway, within 30 seconds thread deleted and within a minute I was banned from Hashtalk. So shady...
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September 11, 2014, 03:06:36 AM |
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I made a post on Hashtalk, not too ranty and not with poor language, explaining that the removing the nicehash sha pool wouldnt have been necessary if GAW were actually mining in the pools that we are selecting.
Essentially that they are having their cake and eating it too if they want to mine on the hardware to make a profit, charge maintenance, and pay us a pool payout if its less than what they make and cry foul if it happens to be more. Moreover, they do this on Scrypt as well but because there is ZenPool which has a higher payout we are more willing to overlook it. Creating a ZenPool-like pool for SHA would be a better alternative if they don't want to actually mine where we point to. I also stated that they should remove the pool selection from zencloud and have us just own a portion of their mining business if they are not going to do this.
Anyway, within 30 seconds thread deleted and within a minute I was banned from Hashtalk. So shady...
I know that feels bro....hehe doesn't take much does it? they don't want ppl to actually think there...they just want your money to keep "their" business plan working...and anyone who tries to warn ppl will met the business end of the ban hammer swiftly and surely...oh well...maybe i should try some of that koolaid? must taste pretty awesome if everyone keeps drinking it...wonder if they see rainbows and unicorns after they drink it? who gives a shit about what the fox say? how about what the sheep say? hehe So true. People there are all like: Thanks for protecting us! (literally this...) They are protecting their shady business model, nothing more.
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September 11, 2014, 03:39:46 AM |
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WOW when i went to work this was like at page in 79 i think not its like 10 pages laters. Good job finding exploit and fixing it to person who did. Now if they would let us trade them amongst each other or sell them. I mean come one they dont need to have their hand in the cookie jar 24/7 at least they will need to do something about price if genesis is going to match them with life time terms. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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September 11, 2014, 03:42:54 AM |
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I made a post on Hashtalk, not too ranty and not with poor language, explaining that the removing the nicehash sha pool wouldnt have been necessary if GAW were actually mining in the pools that we are selecting.
Essentially that they are having their cake and eating it too if they want to mine on the hardware to make a profit, charge maintenance, and pay us a pool payout if its less than what they make and cry foul if it happens to be more. Moreover, they do this on Scrypt as well but because there is ZenPool which has a higher payout we are more willing to overlook it. Creating a ZenPool-like pool for SHA would be a better alternative if they don't want to actually mine where we point to. I also stated that they should remove the pool selection from zencloud and have us just own a portion of their mining business if they are not going to do this.
Anyway, within 30 seconds thread deleted and within a minute I was banned from Hashtalk. So shady...
It was deleted because 30 other posts saying the same thing were posted today I believe.
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September 11, 2014, 04:11:04 AM |
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I do like shashlik. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) +1.01 ...me too... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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philipma1957
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September 11, 2014, 04:22:47 AM |
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WOW when i went to work this was like at page in 79 i think not its like 10 pages laters. Good job finding exploit and fixing it to person who did. Now if they would let us trade them amongst each other or sell them. I mean come one they dont need to have their hand in the cookie jar 24/7 at least they will need to do something about price if genesis is going to match them with life time terms. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thank you But for now I am a bit overwhelmed by it all. I found something big first time in 39 years . I was 18 at the time back in 1975. It was pretty cool to find that. Finding this was more of an oh shit what should I do moment.
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