GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[eightcylinders]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16810/how-much-do-you-trust-gaw-s-vision/81

[bitcoinnoisseur]

You really gotta check out GAW Labs LLC:

280 North Main Street East
East Longmeadow, MA 01028

https://www.google.com/maps/place/280+N+Main+St,+East+Longmeadow,+MA+01028/@42.0749099,-72.5208041,3a,75y,242.98h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sWtEkCrISRsWAOizSudlVKg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e6e61fc3b08459:0x78fa3766fd7b284d!6m1!1e1

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=247447297


And Comtel Connect, LLC:

2123 Oak Grove Road
Hattiesburg, Mississippi 39402

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3182689,-89.3623921,3a,75y,324.9h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1soMXCduNsJ3RYb9n7aPqGdQ!2e0

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=248217352&privcapId=247447309&previousCapId=247447309&previousTitle=Comtel%20Connect,%20LLC

[galdur]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

[suchmoon]

How about the "regulators" there in the best democracy
that money can buy? They have any interest in this
operation? I realize that the system wants to avoid
regulating this marketplace rather let it rot in scams to
give bitcoin a bad name but still it has its obligations
one would assume.

Democracy is slow

However it does sometimes catch the bad guys. FTC 1:0 BFL.

[galdur]

How about the "regulators" there in the best democracy
that money can buy? They have any interest in this
operation? I realize that the system wants to avoid
regulating this marketplace rather let it rot in scams to
give bitcoin a bad name but still it has its obligations
one would assume.

Democracy is slow

However it does sometimes catch the bad guys. FTC 1:0 BFL.

Yeah, I guess that one couldn´t be ignored any longer.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

TREMENDOUS statement. At some point and real soon he's going to have to start naming names. I still want to know how some little tool from New England with no proper education and not much of a background in anything that I can find, has such HUGE friends and no one else in the crypto world does.

[suchmoon]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

Now that it's worded that way it could mean he knows a developer who worked on bond trading software.

I could say I have a silent partner who built software used by all Fortune 500 companies. My buddy Charlie fiddled around with Linux in high school.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

Now that it's worded that way it could mean he knows a developer who worked on bond trading software.

I could say I have a silent partner who built software used by all Fortune 500 companies. My buddy Charlie fiddled around with Linux in high school.

Good catch but he did say this before: one of my best friends runs the largest bond trading company in the world, and the other one of the largest banks in the world. I did not start my career in crypto :grinning:

I guess now we need his definitions of "friend" and "best friend". I have a very good feeling they're not the same as mine. lol

[eightcylinders]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

TREMENDOUS statement. At some point and real soon he's going to have to start naming names. I still want to know how some little tool from New England with no proper education and not much of a background in anything that I can find, has such HUGE friends and no one else in the crypto world does.

He has to be referring to Bonddesk/Tradeweb.  I don't believe there is a larger platform unless he is talking about some particular type of bond.

Josh doesn't say whether his silent partners are in that company (which frankly could mean anything from a low level support desk guy, all the way up to a major player on the Board) .. or if by "built" he means contributed to the technology platform (which would mean any of literally dozens of companies).

I doubt he is lying here.  I could easily say I have friends who run Google.  That wouldn't be a lie either, but it doesn't mean I have an iota of influence over what Google does, nor does it mean that you should invest in a company I start (though I wish that were the measure of diligence lol)..  I think the only way to vette him is to find someone who has done business with him.  Will report back when that task is done.

[galdur]

I take it there are some laws and regulations.

A CEO of a company can´t just throw around names
of big companies like Amazon, Walmart, Visa and
"biggest bank" "biggest bond platform" et cetera.

Maybe it´s just a freakin wild west, what do I know.

[suchmoon]

I take it there are some laws and regulations.

A CEO of a company can´t just throw around names
of big companies like Amazon, Walmart, Visa and
"biggest bank" "biggest bond platform" et cetera.

Maybe it´s just a freakin wild west, what do I know.

I don't think there is any law against that, but said companies can get upset and take action if it's not true. Which is what appears to have happened when coinfire on reddit prodded some of these companies to verify the connection with GAW. So now the Industry Innovator is saying his partners are unhappy because of that and he's not going to use names anymore. Apparently "biggest" and "largest" etc are still ok though.

It would be a bit different if GAW was a public company. Typically those are more regulated in how officers can disclose information etc.

[eightcylinders]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

Now that it's worded that way it could mean he knows a developer who worked on bond trading software.

I could say I have a silent partner who built software used by all Fortune 500 companies. My buddy Charlie fiddled around with Linux in high school.

Good catch but he did say this before: one of my best friends runs the largest bond trading company in the world, and the other one of the largest banks in the world. I did not start my career in crypto :grinning:

I guess now we need his definitions of "friend" and "best friend". I have a very good feeling they're not the same as mine. lol

Looking at Josh's endorsements on LinkedIn, there is only one in banking: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=45437358&trk=endrs-viewall-profile

Art P. is an Account Executive at CitiMortgage.  Citi would certainly qualify as the largest bank.  However, an Account Exec is not exactly "running" the business of Citi...  Of course, maybe Josh really does know Vikram Pandit or Michael Corbat? ... Not.

[KC6TTR]

one of my best friends runs the largest bond trading company in the world, and the other one of the largest banks in the world. I did not start my career in crypto :grinning:

Okay, I'll bite.  Anyone want to point me to Josh's resume?  I have lots of friends in the biz also, would be interesting to see if he checks out.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/josh-garza/8/824/874

Haa... too funny.

He even claimed to know Elon Musk "well" in other communications so you must believe him... period.

Re: LinkedIn
When was GAW Miners "brought to acquisition".
When was it verified GAW is the "largest" of anything in the world? Has Josh even traveled outside the US? He sure does use the term "largest, most, first, in the world/planet" term loosely.

Do an FCC.gov search for his wireless venture. Don't mind the lack of info or the faint sound of crickets - he was still the "largest" in his rural area and he made MILLIONS of "something" from it.

Anyway...
"GAW Labs is building some of the most advance communications technology on the planet. We are building technology that allows your employees to use the power of android on their desktop phones and learn everything about the caller (like their income and profile) before they pick up the phone. We are also building technology that allow your customers to reach in half the time it takes on any other system and even allow your customers to play games while they wait on hold!"

Doesn't he know???
The NSA is already using their "Android" based desktop phones to violate peoples' privacy rights without the intended person even picking up the phone (if it's even them in the first place)... all while enjoying a hardcore game of Angry Birds during their strategic maneuvers in keeping Constitutional rights attorneys on hold all day long.

Duh....

[KC6TTR]

I take it there are some laws and regulations.

A CEO of a company can´t just throw around names
of big companies like Amazon, Walmart, Visa and
"biggest bank" "biggest bond platform" et cetera.

Maybe it´s just a freakin wild west, what do I know.

I don't think there is any law against that, but said companies can get upset and take action if it's not true. Which is what appears to have happened when coinfire on reddit prodded some of these companies to verify the connection with GAW. So now the Industry Innovator is saying his partners are unhappy because of that and he's not going to use names anymore. Apparently "biggest" and "largest" etc are still ok though.

It would be a bit different if GAW was a public company. Typically those are more regulated in how officers can disclose information etc.

The issue arises when a private small-business uses [without expressed permission] the name, likeness, notoriety and/or implied association of one or more larger (publicly traded - and regulated) companies to aid in their marketing of financial securities, which is what GAW/Zen is doing no matter how much the CEO wants to deny it. The SEC can explain this in greater detail.

Scott-

[suchmoon]

This is still getting better, if you can believe it. I was looking at how much hashcoins are worth in the free market (hint: $2.50 was the highest bid so far) and found this:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16917/best-options-for-selling-hashpoints/20
https://hashtalk.org/topic/16917 (scroll to around post 20)

AnimoEsto
Global Moderator
The stance from GAW is

"Its definitely against policy to sell accounts. If caught their account will be permanently banned, or permanently on hold"

"I have confirmation that it is ok to have more than one account per household. The only time this becomes a problem is for referrals.
To eliminate the possibility of exploiting the freebies"

Account sales used to be NOT SUPPORTED but not forbidden either, many were sold that way. Looks like another ninja change to T&Cs "for your own good".

[KC6TTR]

This is still getting better, if you can believe it. I was looking at how much hashcoins are worth in the free market (hint: $2.50 was the highest bid so far) and found this:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16917/best-options-for-selling-hashpoints/20

AnimoEsto
Global Moderator
The stance from GAW is

"Its definitely against policy to sell accounts. If caught their account will be permanently banned, or permanently on hold"

"I have confirmation that it is ok to have more than one account per household. The only time this becomes a problem is for referrals.
To eliminate the possibility of exploiting the freebies"

Account sales used to be NOT SUPPORTED but not forbidden either, many were sold that way. Looks like another ninja change to T&Cs "for your own good".

Glad I was able to dump my entire account off their monopolistic 10% extorted closed market before this 102,816,143 change to the TOS. They seriously need to have their room full of lawyers review the RICO act as everything they are doing is falling in to the category. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

[galdur]

I know what I´d do.

Print up a few million hashpoints for my buddies
and myself to dump on greater fools. 

[suchmoon]

I'm still not following how this exploits the freebies. People get the free Genesis and sell the account? For how much? $3?

How about those who didn't get any freebies and just want out?

It's probably just a coincidence that by forcing them through the Market GAW gets 10%, and by forcing them to abandon hashpoints GAW needs to pay out fewer Hashcoins.

[I_IZ_CEO]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16917/best-options-for-selling-hashpoints/20

[alienesb]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16917/best-options-for-selling-hashpoints/20

Yeah but HashCoin's butt approaches.