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[geegaw]

You got hand it to Homero [ Garza; Homero Joshua (East Longmeadow, MA) H. Josh Garza, Chief Executive Officer ] he really has suckered in the most guillable people on the planet, hook line and sinker.

Trying to read that vomitous site of his, they are all happy clappy and giddy about their fantasy coin over taking BTC, giggling about which stores they would like to see accepting it. What their first purchase with their new shiny plastic card will be using it.

Utterly sad. The real scum are the mods-resellers egging them on. These sad little people truly believe they will be mining a coin, each debating the other about diffuclities and network blocks and how their little fake miner things will be pointed to them and start hashing away.

Homero absolutely knows what he is doing. Trolls by now and again, claiming the first round was a sellout and as predicated over-subscribed. Disappears for a day or two to apologies and claim he is 'busy with contracts'  letting those sad freaks believe that that means he must be signing the contracts with the first round investors.

Really really sad that they are all lapping it up. But as one can see by that incredibly nauseating childish forum he created, those that have flocked to it and embrace and actually use all the childish gimmicks it has to offer, this make believe fairy tale he is presenting to them fits right in.

Homero has it all figured out but alas it will all catch up with him. These schemes always end in tears.  

[Honeycutt22]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

[PCComf]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

It is disappointing to read. When that site started out posting a daily market summary on HT I was hoping it would be an independent news source - you know, something I could just go read the daily summary and not have to bother logging in to zencloud and seeing what the latest GAW inspired pumps and dumps were doing to the market. Since I sold off everything except a single prime I haven't been paying much attention there. Now it is the farthest thing from independent.

I'm still following this for the entertainment value at this point. Does anyone know of a non-koolaid drinker who is posting market summaries of what is going on there?

[galdur]

"""Hashlet Market Report 6 Nov 2014
Prices on Prime Hashlets continued to fall throughout the past day. After polling sellers, it’s clear that they have a variety of reasons for selling. 40% responded that they were converting assets to lock in profits and provide disposable income. 14% sold to cover basic family needs and lifestyle changes. 26% are not clear on the future benefits of HashCoin and the remaining 20% had other specific reasons for selling their Primes.
Prime Hashlets
Prime Hashlet prices fell back several dollars yesterday due to continued selling pressure. Best available price for a single 1 MH Prime is $36.75. Lowest unit price on a larger block is currently $35.30. We believe Primes are substantially undervalued at these prices. This morning 453 Prime Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.
Market Sense: Hold until HashCoin release, many deals available below $40.
Zen Hashlets
Zen Hashlet prices are stable with the floor at $12.50. Best price for a single 1 MH Zen is $12.49. Lowest unit price on a large block is currently $11.91. This morning 1,334 Zen Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.
Market Sense: Buy below $13.00 and hold until HashCoin release.
Genesis Hashlets
Genesis prices continue to be stable on the Zencloud resale market, currently it’s the best choice if you’re looking for Bitcoin payouts. The floor is maintaining at about the $5.50 mark. Best price for a single 10 GH Genesis unit is currently $5.77, lowest unit price on a large block is $5.16. This morning 580 Genesis Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.
Market Sense: A good value below $6.00.
Other Hashlets
Recent price drops on Multi, Clever & Waffle Hashlets make them more attractive, but they offer little return with BTC below $400. The Expected Value (EV) is still significantly less than cost, unless you find liquidation prices on the open market."""

[galdur]

I think that market report is pretty objective as such.

Don´t necessarily agree with the market sense but that´s OK.

[owlcatz]

I had to post this cuz i thought it was pretty funny...

http://gawhsi.com/aboutus_light

"Josh Garza is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of GAW High-Speed Internet Inc and Optima Computers, the business from which GAW viagra online order was born." 

[mutha]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

That is beyond a koolaid drinker... clearly written by an uneducated journalistic poser, that has no clue of investing or what "big vendors want". I mean he can be trying to be hip and cool and all that. But if he wrote an article about me and my company like that, I would have an attorney sitting on his front step waiting to serve some papers.

That kind of writing will not attract any whales, vendors, investment bankers, venture capitalist or anything else.... Seriously WTF are these people thinking? This is beyond stupid...  

[PCComf]

I think that market report is pretty objective as such.

Don´t necessarily agree with the market sense but that´s OK.

Thanks for posting this.

[mutha]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

Sitting here thinking about this... has set me off, it is tirade time and school some of these idiots and their CEO.

Josh you clearly have no clue of how business works.

There is a series of reasons why BTC is not being accepted by big merchants (perhaps one day it will) much less some pathetic made up fictional coin he is pumping up. Give us a reason why Big Vendors or anyone else will use your CRAPTOcoin, over BTC. You know why?

Here we go it is education time for you.

Overstock is the only big vendor even trying to make BTC work, perhaps a few are running back room experiments but at this moment in time the big guys are sitting on the side lines is for these reasons. Josh do you have a clue of how Overstock is trying to make BTC a more acceptable payment system? I do... so be cautious with your answer.

Do you know of the volatility factors, that are of great concern to the fortune 1000 venders? Like Yesterday BTC rose 20 points during the course of the business day. A few days before that it was dropping numerous points. So Josh explain to us how your coin can reduce the volatility factor and give these Vendors a reason to use your coin.

For fuck sake... if you have a fortune 1000 company accepting crypto currency they cannot operate with that volatility. Lets say a company is doing 1000 BTC a day in sales. How do you price the items you are selling? On minute BTC is at $322 and the next BTC is at $334. How do you decide what price to charge a customer? Will the customer be willing to pay the price asked with these volatile swings? But lets say no matter that aspect of it, the retailer still does 1000 BTC a day of commerce. Do they book the exchange on a by minute, by hour or by day rate? Can you imagine the computing power it would take to keep up with the volatility and re adjusting the price constantly?
For all you know the price could change before you could check out... and think you have been over charged and then argue with the clerk or manager, demanding a refund... thus tying up the work force. Then exactly how do you "do a refund" if the price has moved during the arguement?

Ok Josh you are a CEO you should understand this... so how can a retailer book the days revs with the movements in constant motion... one hour you are at a profit, the next you are at a loss. This is an accounting nightmare. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS with big retailers accepting crypto.  Especially YOUR CRAPTO coin. Will your CRAPTO Coin the volatility exposure to the users of your Crapto coin? What legitimate reason would a fortune 1000 Company have to use your Crapto coin? They dont care about the technology... they dont care about speed and one thing for fucking sure if you dont have the answers to this they damned sure wont choose your Crapto coin over BTC which is far ahead in this area of ECONOMIC concern.

Ok Mr. CEO answer that then we can move along to the next elephant in your CRAPTOcoin...

[bitgeek]

There is a series of reasons why BTC is not being accepted by big merchants (perhaps one day it will) much less some pathetic made up fictional coin he is pumping up. Give us a reason why Big Vendors or anyone else will use your CRAPTOcoin, over BTC. You know why?

Newegg, Overstock, Amazon, Tesla, Dell are not big...
Here's a list of sites that accept bitcoin, so you can eduacate yourself.
http://www.bitcoinvalues.net/who-accepts-bitcoins-payment-companies-stores-take-bitcoins.html

Dogecoin also started as "pathetic and fictional".

[verloren]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

TREMENDOUS statement. At some point and real soon he's going to have to start naming names. I still want to know how some little tool from New England with no proper education and not much of a background in anything that I can find, has such HUGE friends and no one else in the crypto world does.

He has to be referring to Bonddesk/Tradeweb.  I don't believe there is a larger platform unless he is talking about some particular type of bond.

Josh doesn't say whether his silent partners are in that company (which frankly could mean anything from a low level support desk guy, all the way up to a major player on the Board) .. or if by "built" he means contributed to the technology platform (which would mean any of literally dozens of companies).

I doubt he is lying here.  I could easily say I have friends who run Google.  That wouldn't be a lie either, but it doesn't mean I have an iota of influence over what Google does, nor does it mean that you should invest in a company I start (though I wish that were the measure of diligence lol)..  I think the only way to vette him is to find someone who has done business with him.  Will report back when that task is done.

http://endb-consolidated.aihit.com/00D74CA4/people.htm
Probably Stuart Fraser (partner of Cantor Fitzgerald). Has ownership in GAW and is on the board.

[mutha]

There is a series of reasons why BTC is not being accepted by big merchants (perhaps one day it will) much less some pathetic made up fictional coin he is pumping up. Give us a reason why Big Vendors or anyone else will use your CRAPTOcoin, over BTC. You know why?

Newegg, Overstock, Amazon, Tesla, Dell are not big...
Here's a list of sites that accept bitcoin, so you can eduacate yourself.
http://www.bitcoinvalues.net/who-accepts-bitcoins-payment-companies-stores-take-bitcoins.html

Dogecoin also started as "pathetic and fictional".

Oh I know how they do it... I am very educated on how they do it and the problems they are encountering and I am not going to tell until I see if Josh knows.

I want to know how Josh's Crapto Coin will perform in this situation...

[Chris_Sabian]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

That is beyond a koolaid drinker... clearly written by an uneducated journalistic poser, that has no clue of investing or what "big vendors want". I mean he can be trying to be hip and cool and all that. But if he wrote an article about me and my company like that, I would have an attorney sitting on his front step waiting to serve some papers.

That kind of writing will not attract any whales, vendors, investment bankers, venture capitalist or anything else.... Seriously WTF are these people thinking? This is beyond stupid...  

This is a huge, blatant pump.  This new 'hashcoin' is going to failure in a huge way.

"our Prime Hashlets are not just dumbfuck miner toys with a daily payback. They’re going to control the entire HashCoin blockchain. Yes. They will control every transaction. Read this paragraph again, just to be sure you understand every word. "

So, let me get this straight, GAW sells Hashlet Prime, creates HashCoin, then the Primes 'control' the whole blockchain? Yeah, ok.  

[verloren]

There is a series of reasons why BTC is not being accepted by big merchants (perhaps one day it will) much less some pathetic made up fictional coin he is pumping up. Give us a reason why Big Vendors or anyone else will use your CRAPTOcoin, over BTC. You know why?

Newegg, Overstock, Amazon, Tesla, Dell are not big...
Here's a list of sites that accept bitcoin, so you can eduacate yourself.
http://www.bitcoinvalues.net/who-accepts-bitcoins-payment-companies-stores-take-bitcoins.html

Dogecoin also started as "pathetic and fictional".

That list doesn't mean anything. A lot of those e-tailers can only be used through sites like Gyft.

ATM, Hashbase looks like it's trying to replace Gyft by using Hashcoin instead of BTC.

[galdur]

GAW seems very overbashed,

Furthermore; two of my favorite counter-indicators on these
threads are present which is rather bullish.

Market sense: Tentative buy on dips.

[eightcylinders]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

That is beyond a koolaid drinker... clearly written by an uneducated journalistic poser, that has no clue of investing or what "big vendors want". I mean he can be trying to be hip and cool and all that. But if he wrote an article about me and my company like that, I would have an attorney sitting on his front step waiting to serve some papers.

That kind of writing will not attract any whales, vendors, investment bankers, venture capitalist or anything else.... Seriously WTF are these people thinking? This is beyond stupid... 

This is a huge, blatant pump.  This new 'hashcoin' is going to failure in a huge way.

"our Prime Hashlets are not just dumbfuck miner toys with a daily payback. They’re going to control the entire HashCoin blockchain. Yes. They will control every transaction. Read this paragraph again, just to be sure you understand every word. "

So, let me get this straight, GAW sells Hashlet Prime, creates HashCoin, then the Primes 'control' the whole blockchain? Yeah, ok.   

What is amazing about this whole thing is how little GAW understands the roots and reasons for success of bitcoin.  This paragraph (though written by a GAW fanboy, or more likely employee/co-conspirator of Josh), and similar statements made by Josh about how Primes will control the blockchain, proves that far from de-centralized, hashcoin would be under the total control of one company that controls the Primes: GAW.   That is assuming, of course, that there is even such a thing as a Prime and its not all a virtual coin simulation/game which seems at least equally likely.

There is no way any legitimate retailer would take hashcoin when it is controlled by a single company with zero track record in finance.  No way ever.

[alienesb]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

TREMENDOUS statement. At some point and real soon he's going to have to start naming names. I still want to know how some little tool from New England with no proper education and not much of a background in anything that I can find, has such HUGE friends and no one else in the crypto world does.

He has to be referring to Bonddesk/Tradeweb.  I don't believe there is a larger platform unless he is talking about some particular type of bond.

Josh doesn't say whether his silent partners are in that company (which frankly could mean anything from a low level support desk guy, all the way up to a major player on the Board) .. or if by "built" he means contributed to the technology platform (which would mean any of literally dozens of companies).

I doubt he is lying here.  I could easily say I have friends who run Google.  That wouldn't be a lie either, but it doesn't mean I have an iota of influence over what Google does, nor does it mean that you should invest in a company I start (though I wish that were the measure of diligence lol)..  I think the only way to vette him is to find someone who has done business with him.  Will report back when that task is done.

http://endb-consolidated.aihit.com/00D74CA4/people.htm
Probably Stuart Fraser (partner of Cantor Fitzgerald). Has ownership in GAW and is on the board.

Looks that way: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartafraser

[Chris_Sabian]

This is interesting:  http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/cfkvbbk

[Chris_Sabian]

And so is this:  http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/

[alienesb]

This is interesting:  http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/cfkvbbk

This is old news and we've seen it before. There's enough flags about GAW without bringing this up yet again.