Scientific proof that God exists?

[username18333]

Does anybody really think that if the method that the universe was made happened to be revealed, that there is anybody that could even understand it? The whole universe is so extremely complex, that nobody could understand what he was looking at if he saw the way or the thing that caused the universe to come into being. The universe is THAT complex. Finding Higgs, be there one or many, is like finding a drop of water in the ocean when compared with what the ocean is and what exists therein.

Keep on playing.

Nothing (that is, "no thing") is "experienced" but "perceived."

I used to think things like "I know nothing," until I realized how stupid it was.  Now, I basically ignore anyone who adamantly states that you can't really know anything.

I personally distinguish between two kinds of knowledge:  1) That which can be known directly through experience, and 2) that which can be known indirectly through evidence/proof.

To use an example, the former would be like feeling the warmth of the sun on your face and knowing that it is warm out, while the latter is like looking at a thermometer and seeing that it's 85 degrees outside and concluding that it is warm outside.  When you directly feel the warmth of the sun on your face, there is no rationale required to know and understand what is there; more specifically, direct experience occurs when a subject unifies with an object such that they are indistinguishable (this is even reflected in our language when we say things like, "I am warm").  In contrast, rationale is an absolute necessity to make sense out of a thermometer reading, and the only way you can assert it is warm is if you know that there are temperatures much lower than 85 degrees by having evidenced them; 'ratio' is the root word of 'rationale.'

Inasmuch as logic is a closed system with recognizable boundaries and rules, it's not only possible to know something, but it's possible to know something absolutely and perfectly in an absolutely perfect, logical way.  But, no matter how perfectly logical it is, it will always be different than the knowledge gained through direct experience.

(That post was recomposed prior your reply.)

One does not "[feel] the warmth"; one's body absorbs infrared light. (That you would refer to the later as the former illustrates that you are privy most wholly to that really born of conception within Homo sapien mind and not that therewithout.)

Complex response:  Absorbing infrared light is an interpretation based upon the amount of evidence we've acquired from the technology we have.  Before we knew what infrared light was, it was interpreted differently,   The problem, however, is we don't know where the limit of evidence and rational interpretation ends, so it's still an arbitrary interpretation, albeit relatively less arbitrary than if we were limited to the same evidence available to mankind pre-science.  

Let me also point out that your experience self-evidently comes prior to your explanation of it.  Accordingly, there *must* be some information or knowledge that you take away from that experience so that you can fit an abstract model to it.   The model is a deconstruction of a thing that you experienced in a more comprehensive way (your model can never be more comprehensive than your experience of an event and the evidence you pull from it; if it were, it'd be a priori unsound as it would imply the existence of unknown assumptions).

Simple response:  

warmth
wôrmTH/Submit
noun
the quality, state, or sensation of being warm; moderate and comfortable heat.

Yes, you feel warmth.  Warmth is inherently relative, and so you know when you feel warm and not cold.  Science routinely oversteps its bounds when it tries to explain subjective feelings solely in terms of what's externally observable.  It's bad science.

See this following:

Since it could not, prior limakasidian entropism, be conclusively demonstrated that anything existed beyond one's own mind, scientific evidence was accepted by faith and, therefore, was not proof.

However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

Where did you get this from?  Are these your own words?  I'm genuinely curious.

There is a fellow, govt. M. A. Limakasidios, that has seen the world and been disheartened. Within his more "spiritual" squalor, he rose himself against that.

His Office, Government of Great Empire, Mαρκoς Aνδρεας Λημακασἰδιoς—founder of limakasidian entropism, authoritarian anarchism, and limakasidian arithmetic—has founded a terra-celestial state, Great Empire of Earth, of 240 × 10¹⁵ km³ so as to fell that dishonor presently known man.

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[Decksperiment]

Huh? The scientific proof of God is in the fact that we found the Higgs Boson. Now that we have found this elusive, little particle, just ask Steven Hawking what he calls it. The God particle. It'll be an interesting day if they ever find two of them at the same time. There probably is only ONE in the whole universe.

And it just happened that out of the billions and billions of stars/planets everywhere that this god particle just happened to be found here? That's a laugh in itself, I mean, can this boson/particle speak?

Did'nt think so..

Can it vibrate enough to create ripples throughout the vastness of the void that may be left if all else just imploded?

Did'nt think so..

[username18333]

Huh? The scientific proof of God is in the fact that we found the Higgs Boson. Now that we have found this elusive, little particle, just ask Steven Hawking what he calls it. The God particle. It'll be an interesting day if they ever find two of them at the same time. There probably is only ONE in the whole universe.

And it just happened that out of the billions and billions of stars/planets everywhere that this god particle just happened to be found here? That's a laugh in itself, I mean, can this boson/particle speak?

Did'nt think so..

Can it vibrate enough to create ripples throughout the vastness of the void that may be left if all else just imploded?

Did'nt think so..

It was forced (it did not "just [happen]").

[Decksperiment]

At last.. 'Force' implies 2

[username18333]

Huh? The scientific proof of God is in the fact that we found the Higgs Boson. Now that we have found this elusive, little particle, just ask Steven Hawking what he calls it. The God particle. It'll be an interesting day if they ever find two of them at the same time. There probably is only ONE in the whole universe.

And it just happened that out of the billions and billions of stars/planets everywhere that this god particle just happened to be found here? That's a laugh in itself, I mean, can this boson/particle speak?

Did'nt think so..

Can it vibrate enough to create ripples throughout the vastness of the void that may be left if all else just imploded?

Did'nt think so..

It was forced (it did not "just [happen]").

At last.. 'Force' implies 2

Those are "very, very, very small [Big Bangs]."

[BADecker]

Huh? The scientific proof of God is in the fact that we found the Higgs Boson. Now that we have found this elusive, little particle, just ask Steven Hawking what he calls it. The God particle. It'll be an interesting day if they ever find two of them at the same time. There probably is only ONE in the whole universe.

And it just happened that out of the billions and billions of stars/planets everywhere that this god particle just happened to be found here? That's a laugh in itself, I mean, can this boson/particle speak?

Did'nt think so..

Can it vibrate enough to create ripples throughout the vastness of the void that may be left if all else just imploded?

Did'nt think so..

It was forced (it did not "just [happen]").

At last.. 'Force' implies 2

These are "very, very, very small [Big Bangs]."

That's what trolls are in Bitcointalk. 

[My Name Was Taken]

Does anybody really think that if the method that the universe was made happened to be revealed, that there is anybody that could even understand it? The whole universe is so extremely complex, that nobody could understand what he was looking at if he saw the way or the thing that caused the universe to come into being. The universe is THAT complex. Finding Higgs, be there one or many, is like finding a drop of water in the ocean when compared with what the ocean is and what exists therein.

Keep on playing.

I believe that every able-bodied human has the capacity to understand everything that is necessary for him to understand, and that the reason this is true is that the most "true" interpretation of reality is that which is directly experienced and therefore independent of rationale and abstraction.  I believe that this is the only sort of information that can be absolutely known (i.e. known through direct and perfect means, which is different than knowing through indirect means such as evidence or 'proof').

I believe that you are close to right, if not right exactly.

That still doesn't answer the question of scientific proof.

Salvation by believing in Jesus is the only way. That salvation comes through reading or hearing the Word of God, only... no other way.

However, since God created the workings of the universe through speaking them into being, there just might be a whole lot of people who will hear God's word even though they don't read the Bible, and are saved anyway. BUT, BUT, BUT, don't depend on this for salvation. After all, hearing the Word of God through nature doesn't present very much clarity. Read and believe the Bible.

You're speaking of the Christian god. There are thousands of other gods all promising all manner of things in return for your faith. Who is to say one god is greater than any other? The followers of each all proclaim theirs is the greatest, but they all can't be right. In fact, the rules most religions build up around their god preclude the possibility of everyone being right:

'Allah is the one true god and Mohammad is his prophet.' -Islam
'I am the lord your god, you shall have no other gods before me.' -Christianity

These are just two of the most popular religions today, and despite the fact that Islam proclaims to worship the same god as the Christian god, the followers of these religions have a long history of killing each other over 'worshiping the wrong god.'

I don't find compelling any religion's case that their god exists, let alone that he is the sole god. The whole 'but only I can bring you salvation' bit each religion throws in sounds desperate, like a used-car salesman who really needs to make his quota this month to keep his job.

[BADecker]

Does anybody really think that if the method that the universe was made happened to be revealed, that there is anybody that could even understand it? The whole universe is so extremely complex, that nobody could understand what he was looking at if he saw the way or the thing that caused the universe to come into being. The universe is THAT complex. Finding Higgs, be there one or many, is like finding a drop of water in the ocean when compared with what the ocean is and what exists therein.

Keep on playing.

I believe that every able-bodied human has the capacity to understand everything that is necessary for him to understand, and that the reason this is true is that the most "true" interpretation of reality is that which is directly experienced and therefore independent of rationale and abstraction.  I believe that this is the only sort of information that can be absolutely known (i.e. known through direct and perfect means, which is different than knowing through indirect means such as evidence or 'proof').

I believe that you are close to right, if not right exactly.

That still doesn't answer the question of scientific proof.

Salvation by believing in Jesus is the only way. That salvation comes through reading or hearing the Word of God, only... no other way.

However, since God created the workings of the universe through speaking them into being, there just might be a whole lot of people who will hear God's word even though they don't read the Bible, and are saved anyway. BUT, BUT, BUT, don't depend on this for salvation. After all, hearing the Word of God through nature doesn't present very much clarity. Read and believe the Bible.

You're speaking of the Christian god. There are thousands of other gods all promising all manner of things in return for your faith. Who is to say one god is greater than any other? The followers of each all proclaim theirs is the greatest, but they all can't be right. In fact, the rules most religions build up around their god preclude the possibility of everyone being right:

'Allah is the one true god and Mohammad is his prophet.' -Islam
'I am the lord your god, you shall have no other gods before me.' -Christianity

These are just two of the most popular religions today, and despite the fact that Islam proclaims to worship the same god as the Christian god, the followers of these religions have a long history of killing each other over 'worshiping the wrong god.'

I don't find compelling any religion's case that their god exists, let alone that he is the sole god. The whole 'but only I can bring you salvation' bit each religion throws in sounds desperate, like a used-car salesman who really needs to make his quota this month to keep his job.

The proof is in the nature of the god, and what you can find out about him/her/it.

For example, if somebody walked up to you and said, "I am God," you might answer, "prove it." If he takes off his hat and pulls a rabbit out of it, you might say, "I've seen that trick before."

But if he takes you throughout hospitals that have thousands of sick people in them, and heals everyone of them before your eyes, and is killed and rises from the dead, and floats up into the air and is hidden in the clouds, even out of the sight of radar, you might be on your way towards being convinced slightly.

Years later, if your grandson hears the story from you, he might not believe it. But if you show him the book that talks about this, and you show him how the book came into existence in a way impossible for a book like this to come into existence, he might still not believe. He still might think the book is a hoax.

This is a little about the Bible, and the God that it portrays. If you examine the history and strong tradition of how the Bible came into being, you will see that it is a book that is impossible to exist. This being the case, the God who caused the impossible-to-exist book to actually exist and be spread across the world like the Bible has been, must be the true God.

Studying the history of the Bible (or any book) might entail a lot of time and work in areas that are not your expertise, and are not something you want to get started in. So, you check out what the Bible scholars have to say.

The choice is still yours. You can believe them or not. But if you do the examination yourself, and if you are of a sincere mind, truly wanting to find God, you will have to agree at least, that the God of the Bible is One that is exceedingly more probable to exist than any of the others, even if you don't believe in Him.

The choice will always be yours, at least until He comes to you in person, and proves to you Who He is, in the ways that only a God can.

[My Name Was Taken]

If you examine the history and strong tradition of how the Bible came into being, you will see that it is a book that is impossible to exist. This being the case, the God who caused the impossible-to-exist book to actually exist and be spread across the world like the Bible has been, must be the true God.

This is where you lose me. The bible isn't magic, impossible to exist, or proof of god. It's a malleable text that has changed as the political landscape of the church has changed. Hebrew scholars don't maintain it is either, unless they're fundamentalists:

[The bible] was not written by one man, nor did it drop down from heaven as assumed by fundamentalists. It is not a magical book, but a collection of authoritative texts of apparently divine origin that went through a human process of writing and editing.

Timothy H. Lim is a professor of Hebrew Bible and Second Temple Judaism at the University of Edinburgh. I believe his description of how the bible came to be more than yours, no offense. You've asked me to examine the history of the bible, but I don't have the faculties to do so, so I do the next best thing and rely on the experts who do.

[the joint]

Does anybody really think that if the method that the universe was made happened to be revealed, that there is anybody that could even understand it? The whole universe is so extremely complex, that nobody could understand what he was looking at if he saw the way or the thing that caused the universe to come into being. The universe is THAT complex. Finding Higgs, be there one or many, is like finding a drop of water in the ocean when compared with what the ocean is and what exists therein.

Keep on playing.

I believe that every able-bodied human has the capacity to understand everything that is necessary for him to understand, and that the reason this is true is that the most "true" interpretation of reality is that which is directly experienced and therefore independent of rationale and abstraction.  I believe that this is the only sort of information that can be absolutely known (i.e. known through direct and perfect means, which is different than knowing through indirect means such as evidence or 'proof').

I believe that you are close to right, if not right exactly.

That still doesn't answer the question of scientific proof.

Salvation by believing in Jesus is the only way. That salvation comes through reading or hearing the Word of God, only... no other way.

However, since God created the workings of the universe through speaking them into being, there just might be a whole lot of people who will hear God's word even though they don't read the Bible, and are saved anyway. BUT, BUT, BUT, don't depend on this for salvation. After all, hearing the Word of God through nature doesn't present very much clarity. Read and believe the Bible.

You're speaking of the Christian god. There are thousands of other gods all promising all manner of things in return for your faith. Who is to say one god is greater than any other? The followers of each all proclaim theirs is the greatest, but they all can't be right. In fact, the rules most religions build up around their god preclude the possibility of everyone being right:

'Allah is the one true god and Mohammad is his prophet.' -Islam
'I am the lord your god, you shall have no other gods before me.' -Christianity

These are just two of the most popular religions today, and despite the fact that Islam proclaims to worship the same god as the Christian god, the followers of these religions have a long history of killing each other over 'worshiping the wrong god.'

I don't find compelling any religion's case that their god exists, let alone that he is the sole god. The whole 'but only I can bring you salvation' bit each religion throws in sounds desperate, like a used-car salesman who really needs to make his quota this month to keep his job.

The proof is in the nature of the god, and what you can find out about him/her/it.

For example, if somebody walked up to you and said, "I am God," you might answer, "prove it." If he takes off his hat and pulls a rabbit out of it, you might say, "I've seen that trick before."

But if he takes you throughout hospitals that have thousands of sick people in them, and heals everyone of them before your eyes, and is killed and rises from the dead, and floats up into the air and is hidden in the clouds, even out of the sight of radar, you might be on your way towards being convinced slightly.

Years later, if your grandson hears the story from you, he might not believe it. But if you show him the book that talks about this, and you show him how the book came into existence in a way impossible for a book like this to come into existence, he might still not believe. He still might think the book is a hoax.

This is a little about the Bible, and the God that it portrays. If you examine the history and strong tradition of how the Bible came into being, you will see that it is a book that is impossible to exist. This being the case, the God who caused the impossible-to-exist book to actually exist and be spread across the world like the Bible has been, must be the true God.

Studying the history of the Bible (or any book) might entail a lot of time and work in areas that are not your expertise, and are not something you want to get started in. So, you check out what the Bible scholars have to say.

The choice is still yours. You can believe them or not. But if you do the examination yourself, and if you are of a sincere mind, truly wanting to find God, you will have to agree at least, that the God of the Bible is One that is exceedingly more probable to exist than any of the others, even if you don't believe in Him.

The choice will always be yours, at least until He comes to you in person, and proves to you Who He is, in the ways that only a God can.

The bolded selection above makes no sense.  If something said to be impossible exists, then your assumption that it was/is impossible is wrong.   That being said, since it does exist and is therefore obviously possible, then it does not in any way constitute proof that there is a god, nor does it constitute proof that God created the book.

[BADecker]

Simply speaking, there is no other book than the Bible that combines such a length of history, contains witnesses to real miracles, explains the miraculous forming of a nation that is about 3,500 years old, alive and active today, that covers such a volume of basic, human, life-understanding, that has such fundamental, foundational laws for life, that shows how predictions were made in the past that were fulfilled after the predictions, etc., etc.

If present-day people didn't understand, instinctively, by the moving done by the Holy Spirit, how important, miraculous, and "living" the Bible is, this book would have failed within the first couple hundred years of its existence. Yet, it hasn't failed. Rather, it is spreading around the world.

The fact that the things talked about in the Bible are coming into being, aren't evidences of gullible people. Rather, it is evidence that people are practical.

[Decksperiment]

Huh? The scientific proof of God is in the fact that we found the Higgs Boson. Now that we have found this elusive, little particle, just ask Steven Hawking what he calls it. The God particle. It'll be an interesting day if they ever find two of them at the same time. There probably is only ONE in the whole universe.

And it just happened that out of the billions and billions of stars/planets everywhere that this god particle just happened to be found here? That's a laugh in itself, I mean, can this boson/particle speak?

Did'nt think so..

Can it vibrate enough to create ripples throughout the vastness of the void that may be left if all else just imploded?

Did'nt think so..

It was forced (it did not "just [happen]").

At last.. 'Force' implies 2

Those are "very, very, very small [Big Bangs]."

From nothing that moved over the deep we can surmise 4 thing's existed before god:

Depth (of whatever deep) and width

Space (to move)

Time (to get over that deep)

So, where did god come into it?

Seem's that whenever we get to the nitty gritty, no-one can answer where god actually came from, never mind where he got the resource's to do anything..

Oh, and it took my 16 year old daughter to point out that the rite's of mithras held in the pyramid's 64.000 years ago, are to be found in the book of enoch

[username18333]

Simply speaking, there is no other book than the Bible that combines such a length of history, contains witnesses to real miracles, explains the miraculous forming of a nation that is about 3,500 years old, alive and active today, that covers such a volume of basic, human, life-understanding, that has such fundamental, foundational laws for life, that shows how predictions were made in the past that were fulfilled after the predictions, etc., etc.

If present-day people didn't understand, instinctively, by the moving done by the Holy Spirit, how important, miraculous, and "living" the Bible is, this book would have failed within the first couple hundred years of its existence. Yet, it hasn't failed. Rather, it is spreading around the world.

The fact that the things talked about in the Bible are coming into being, aren't evidences of gullible people. Rather, it is evidence that people are practical.

Confound: "It is evidence that 'people' are 'gullible' and similar."

[username18333]

Huh? The scientific proof of God is in the fact that we found the Higgs Boson. Now that we have found this elusive, little particle, just ask Steven Hawking what he calls it. The God particle. It'll be an interesting day if they ever find two of them at the same time. There probably is only ONE in the whole universe.

And it just happened that out of the billions and billions of stars/planets everywhere that this god particle just happened to be found here? That's a laugh in itself, I mean, can this boson/particle speak?

Did'nt think so..

Can it vibrate enough to create ripples throughout the vastness of the void that may be left if all else just imploded?

Did'nt think so..

It was forced (it did not "just [happen]").

At last.. 'Force' implies 2

Those are "very, very, very small [Big Bangs]."

From nothing that moved over the deep we can surmise 4 thing's existed before god:

Depth (of whatever deep) and width

Space (to move)

Time (to get over that deep)

So, where did god come into it?

Seem's that whenever we get to the nitty gritty, no-one can answer where god actually came from, never mind where he got the resource's to do anything..

Oh, and it took my 16 year old daughter to point out that the right's of mithras held in the pyramid's 64.000 years ago, are to be found in the book of enoch

See this following:

Since it could not, prior limakasidian entropism, be conclusively demonstrated that anything existed beyond one's own mind, scientific evidence was accepted by faith and, therefore, was not proof.

However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

[Decksperiment]

Nae disrespect mate, I like your simple sentence's, and bypass the crap, there's only one thing worse than a bible basher who cant explain where god came from, and that's someone trying to do same in a way that serve's no reasonably sane purpose for what's left of life.

Whilst we can pray god keeps life going, what can entropy do when your half dead hoping to live?

Fuck all..

entropy is LAZINESS

[Decksperiment]

Simply speaking, there is no other book than the Bible that combines such a length of history, contains witnesses to real miracles, explains the miraculous forming of a nation that is about 3,500 years old, alive and active today, that covers such a volume of basic, human, life-understanding, that has such fundamental, foundational laws for life, that shows how predictions were made in the past that were fulfilled after the predictions, etc., etc.

If present-day people didn't understand, instinctively, by the moving done by the Holy Spirit, how important, miraculous, and "living" the Bible is, this book would have failed within the first couple hundred years of its existence. Yet, it hasn't failed. Rather, it is spreading around the world.

The fact that the things talked about in the Bible are coming into being, aren't evidences of gullible people. Rather, it is evidence that people are practical.

The bible has no witness's, it is a very old book of analogies, teaching nothing but morals and dogma.. it's witness's are unprovable, and YOU cant prove otherwise. Prove me wrong. I want scientific proof, not google nonsense.

Edit: As for saying it has a lengthy history, history is written by the victor's, and is re-written by the next, as is happening today in the schools we send our kid's to, as is PROVABLE by the fact that in america, where (occult) books, such as the necronomicon are now to be as distributed, for fear of religious bias.. after all, if the bible is allowed to be distributed, then so should all the devil's work's.. only in america huh?

So far ..

Cant wait till the tertad is passed, then we'll know the bible is a load of bollox just like the year 2000 bug.. please note, I say the bible, not god.. the devils greatest trick was convincing the world he does not exist.. cause the devil IS god..

We were created in THEIR image.

[username18333]

Nae disrespect mate, I like your simple sentence's, and bypass the crap, there's only one thing worse than a bible basher who cant explain where god came from, and that's someone trying to do same in a way that serve's no reasonably sane purpose for what's left of life.

Whilst we can pray god keeps life going, what can entropy do when your half dead hoping to live?

Fuck all..

entropy is LAZINESS

Have sustained your "liv[ing]."

[Decksperiment]

Notice you still dont make any sense? I could use you, your a good dictionary, shame you dont know how to communicate normally.. just think, if I replaced my foul mouthed lingo with your's, we'd make quite a team lol..

[the joint]

Simply speaking, there is no other book than the Bible that combines such a length of history, contains witnesses to real miracles, explains the miraculous forming of a nation that is about 3,500 years old, alive and active today, that covers such a volume of basic, human, life-understanding, that has such fundamental, foundational laws for life, that shows how predictions were made in the past that were fulfilled after the predictions, etc., etc.

If present-day people didn't understand, instinctively, by the moving done by the Holy Spirit, how important, miraculous, and "living" the Bible is, this book would have failed within the first couple hundred years of its existence. Yet, it hasn't failed. Rather, it is spreading around the world.

The fact that the things talked about in the Bible are coming into being, aren't evidences of gullible people. Rather, it is evidence that people are practical.

Yet, it hasn't failed.  Rather, it is spreading around the world.

Yeah, too bad that has absolutely nothing to do with its accuracy.  The Quran has spread around the world, too.  Even Humpty Dumpty got around.  You're not that stupid.  You know you're not, and I know you're not.  So don't be.

Now, regarding "evidences of gullible people," here's your "practical[ity]" explained:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

Try again.

[Decksperiment]

Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the what-ever day

Before then it was dark.

If god is the light, he could not have existed to create anything before the light was created!!