Scientific proof that God exists?

[FanEagle]

You know, I strongly believe there is a superior creature upon us, that we can call God.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.

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[bl4kjaguar]

The same to you as Saint Paul said to Elymas the sorcerer:

You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?

Christ said that those who follow the doctrine of a Pharisee are twice the child of hell as a Pharisee, and Paul was always a Pharisee and never was a follower of Christ.

Before you accuse me of deceit, why don't you check out what is in your own eye?

The Doctrine of Saul is not the same as the Doctrine of Christ, as I have shown by referencing mainstream historical study on this topic.

First Christians audio is found here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html

[bl4kjaguar]

I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.

Space Man is nothing new. The Phoenix Journals strongly suggest this possibility.
http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/gch.html

[FanEagle]

I don't intend it as a simple "Space man" I intend it as another force, maybe not human shaped, or well, maybe something more than Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

[bl4kjaguar]

I don't intend it as a simple "Space man" I intend it as another force, maybe not human shaped, or well, maybe something more than Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Descriptions of Space Brothers in the Journals can be found here under these headings:

ETHERIA/ETHERIANS
SPACE PEOPLE AND SPIRIT PEOPLE
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_05.pdf

The etheric state in which we dwell is one of many on an ascending evolutionary scale to which we all belong--you too!

[the joint]

debating whether God exists in an empirical context is a flawed approach.

It is a flawed approach because God has no limitations.

God's WORD is very real and
I suspect that is a better topic for debate/discussion.

No, it's not a flawed approach "because God has no limitations."  You are incorrect here because. while you are making the presumption that God both exists and has "no limitations," you are not treating it as a presumption, but rather as a given.

It's a flawed approach specifically because it is unsound to support a theory of something which is defined as being beyond the scope of empiricism with empirical evidence.

[the joint]

You know, I strongly believe there is a superior creature upon us, that we can call God.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.

Then what would you call that which governs both "another plane dimensional/time/technology" (uh, what?) and God/alien/"superior creature" residing within it?

I think you should look at what you said more carefully as it's riddled with problems.  You're describing something like a polytheistic god.

[bl4kjaguar]

You know, I strongly believe there is a superior creature upon us, that we can call God.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.

Then what would you call that which governs both "another plane dimensional/time/technology" (uh, what?) and God/alien/"superior creature" residing within it?

I think you should look at what you said more carefully as it's riddled with problems.  You're describing something like a polytheistic god.

It is only problematic because of human perception of limitation. FanEagle could be describing God Aton:

I come by way of Hatonn planet in training with Earth Humans (because that is your reflected 'sister' galaxy--no more and no less). I COME FROM THE REALMS OF THE LIGHTED EXISTENCE OF GOD--and THAT is not some planet anywhere definable in your vocabularies or dimensional expression. However, I needed, and still need, some recognizable form of IDENTIFICATION which you can recognize--and I USE IT.

[bl4kjaguar]

It's a flawed approach specifically because it is unsound to support a theory of something which is defined as being beyond the scope of empiricism with empirical evidence.

In any case, we have empirical evidence which is suggestive of reincarnation, a hypothesis (theory?) NOT beyond the scope of empiricism, and this evidence supports the theory of rebirth proposed by various authors, including Hatonn.

For example, "The objective phenomena of ITC is either ignored, or explained with the usual suspects of fraud, delusion or mundane causes."

This hypothesis has been evolving as more has been learned.

The Trans-survival Hypothesis is a theoretical model based on the Survival Hypothesis typically referred to in discussions related to mind-body theory. As an elaboration on the simpler model with accommodations for lessons learned from the study of transcommunication, it is proposed as an update.

In this model, the expression of intention of a personality is limited by how well the personality understands the nature of reality (sometimes referred to as spiritual maturity). The bounding or limiting effect of understanding on expression is referred to as perceptual agreement. Personality and avatar entanglement acts as a transformer providing etheric-physical energetic agreement.

it is clear that the reader must do the work by studying the references. A quick reading without taking time to understand the references and assumptions, or while insisting that the work adhere to the reader's accepted wisdom, will almost always leave the reader wondering what it is all about. You have to do the work.
The hypothesis is comprehensive, and is at least a good draft for further work; however, it will never evolve if academic barriers are not let down and serious collaboration begun.

[bl4kjaguar]

This hypothesis has been evolving as more has been learned.

There is lots of room to grow the Survival Hypothesis and relate it to spiritually mature teachings and teachers; this approaches a "theory" of TRUTH, but not GOD.

[bl4kjaguar]

This hypothesis has been evolving as more has been learned.

There is lots of room to grow the Survival Hypothesis and relate it to spiritually mature teachings and teachers; this approaches a "theory" of TRUTH, but not GOD.

Holons prove the inter-connectivity of everything with everything ... a full holistic approach.

http://www.mu6.com/numbers_catalan.html
http://www.mu6.com/numbers.html
http://www.mu6.com/catalan_numbers_growth.html

[bl4kjaguar]

This hypothesis has been evolving as more has been learned.

There is lots of room to grow the Survival Hypothesis and relate it to spiritually mature teachings and teachers; this approaches a "theory" of TRUTH, but not GOD.

Holons prove the inter-connectivity of everything with everything ... a full holistic approach.

http://www.mu6.com/numbers_catalan.html
http://www.mu6.com/numbers.html
http://www.mu6.com/catalan_numbers_growth.html

Logic and Religions. By Dirk Laureyssens, MSc.

This is a very condensed summary
of the new concepts and insights
that are developed
in this Membrane approach

This approach makes it clear how the Union of BODY and MIND is topologically
constructed, and how consciousness fits in this.

http://www.mu6.com/pdf/Logic_and_Religions.pdf

[Decksperiment]

One day, the dark thought, I need some light. and light came.. surrounded by darkness.. no matter how many candles you blow out, pretending they are dark, the light will always shine through a crack in our bull.. for I am the candle of your soul. I know who you are, and what we have done.. But I dont care, for I am abusive, pretentious bullshit.. I sit in front of my pc, forgetting real life, for this is our real life.. you think your comments mean anything, not realising god is in your heart.. and each letter you type is not to a penpal, but a force of action deticting that which ye know not.. but will answer to.. for it has base 64 encoding telling me and all n sundry who you think eye (we) are.. but you have yet to learn light will always be contained within the darkness it need's to shine. in order to be the light that shine's in the darkness, that shall ever rule when the last star dies..

[Decksperiment]

Something tell's me you lot have yet to see the light.. that is contained within the darkness.. when the life and conciousnous leave's this sphere.. have no fear.. for you will then know what I have written is true. Light cannot exist external to dark.. it must be contained.. lest it shine too bright.. and blind us with false darkness.. oh ye powers that be.. carefull..

[Decksperiment]

Eye do not need to borrow the strength of the eye's of the eagle, to see them, for I am that which the eagle require's for flight.. I am the breath of god in it's most natural form.. the air we breath.. that which the eagle needs for flight.. and that which will be taken from us all..

[Decksperiment]

Happy New year by the way..

New year's resolution..? To point out that when the internet was realised as a potential id card, they upstairs had to figure this out.. how do we get them to want to be spied on..? A dj said, hey, dunno about you, an am no intae it myself, but what if eye said, do label's? They're like, what dya mean labels? I was like, as a dj, well, them dum fucks dunno the first thing about music, why not just tell them the truth, hide it in music, ban the music, for 'samping' certain secret knowledge, then banning it to get them all to do what we all do.. buy what we're no supposed to.. dya think that'll work.. dunno, but if I was you, I'd link all them pc's through the isp first, giving all hackers a point of scource to find you.. if they know your ip, so do I.. Why fear the NSA? Some have access to that db, that's for sure.. I am not customer service's, I am that electric shock you get when you touch on this.. I am that which you fear, or simpy wanna be.. and trained to be so.. be thankfull, I am deckperiment.. happy new year to y'all.. Now that's my season!!

[Decksperiment]

Oh, and what would new year be without a challenge? Lol, like,

Dea BADecker: Please state the exact number of revelations. The reason for this is to show you, your lady babalon. You know, the lass that bonk'd the devil? What was the result of said action's? Was his name not mamon? Who are you to tell me the word of god is anything I have in my heart? I'll put it like this: 'THE' is in my heart, is this the word of god? Because you have one fatal error in your claim in that 'THE' word of god denote's singular, not plural. Fuck off and come back when you know who your talking to.. I dont take lame assed excuses for gods servants as you lightly.. I mean c'mon.. what't the difference between singular and plural? Decksperiment knows of a bible, the keeper has had it so long, he knows nothing..

[Decksperiment]

BADecker, That busy talkin shit he forgot to open it.. probably because it's a fake copy.. or he'd answer as gladly as he has from a book he no longer has, for he searches using the most filtered search engine in existance, and if you can search it, he'll beleive that the word of god is not plural, but singular in being that which is THE word of god.

Being A word, not more..

Not less..

than THE..

Word..

You spangle

[Decksperiment]

THE word of god demands aknowledgement that light shines within darkness.. this is the singular word of god.. aknowledgement of truth, not as you or I see it, but as is seen by all.. go on, grab yer groupies.. something tells me your dude's upstairs are gonna make folks like you wish the lights are out when they come.. I mean ya gotta admit.. the bible is responsible for more cruelty throughout the lands in the name of god no? Just what does this book have in common with god? By forcing folks to believe in god, you introduce the devil they never really knew before, till you came along.. until then, it was just life.. now, by your decree, it's gods fault your a dick..not yours..

[Daniel91]

New, interesting post from the same blog author.
What do you think, can we say that scientists are also believers?

If you start to share with people some of the recent scientific evidence that points to God or a master designer, you may hear the rebuttal from someone that your evidence is just a “God of the gaps” explanation. It might even be said with some condescension.

There is no need to fear the “God of the gaps” slur and I’ll tell you why. But first, what is “God of the gaps.” The term was actually invented by Christian theologians who were trying to identify a certain strategy for proving that God exists which they assumed is doomed to failure.

"Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." That makes perfect sense to a believer, but to a God-denier and even your average scientist that is a “God of the gaps” statement. They have faith in a different place. They believe that scientists will eventually discover how life started and additionally of course there will be no need for God.

If you are a believer, you will be happy to hear this news. Over the last 50 years of research you would think that the “gaps” would be disappearing one by one and that scientists are slowly proving the case for the materialists. That’s even the way the materialists might be preaching it.

However, actually the “gaps” are getting bigger and bigger. What once seemed to be a small “gap” in materialistic explanations has often, after newer research, turned out to be an even more complex and complicated problem to explain materialistically. Also new “gaps” are being discovered all the time which scientists cannot explain. The evidence for a master designer is getting stronger, not weaker.

Whether they realize it or not, their beliefs and assumptions are based on faith. Faith in miracles unexplainable by current science and often violating the well known laws of nature identified so far. As each new “gap” in materialistic explanations is discovered, it makes the odds of us being here by accident less and less likely.

There must be God.

Read full article here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=2