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October 26, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
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Read the article on deepdotweb.

3 observations:

1) its a good run-down of anon developments to date
2) the headline is misleading
3) it feels quite a lot like shadow propaganda (the whole Matrix thing + comic references + references to the Anonymous group)

personal feelings:

I encourage all anon development. It is incredibly hard (from what I gather). The chances of SDC rolling out a functional ZK wallet in November seem small. Comments?

Q. Is there a connection between SDC and Anonymous as implied in the article?

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How this bit of hero geekery pertains to cryptocurrency is because of a new project called Shadow, born of the the Anonymous collective, known for holding evildoers accountable for their actions

thanks in advance

Hit a few nerves? Thats cool, we all have our tools, thats what you should remember. And yes we are all anonymous its not a group you need to apply to become apart of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
You just are apart of it if you are fighting for anonymity as opposed to not trying to focus on it! 

As for the article being propaganda; i encourage you to take a look at the definition of the word itself. If you didn't like some of the references in it thats cool. It is a controversial one but however much it is; its still framing the facts. Truth hurts and its expected that not everyone is comfortable with the facts laid out.. I don't think the headline is misleading at all. Fact is, zero knowledge and Shadow eclipses any projects work to date!
Remove your emotion and stay focused on the fight here. Its anonymity, please focus your cannons elsewhere and contribute as opposed to pick at immaterial, emotional hooks built into an article..

As for zk being released in November, well no one really knows. There is a roadmap because the community wanted it (remember its only a guide!) but if the devs had their way there wouldn't be one to begin with. Because fools come and start picking at it and pressuring them (using it as a a base of argument) because the fools are betting so much on it arriving at a certain time..Which is stupid, this inst tried and true development cycles here. Its cutting edge and people forget that because they're not here for the tech they are here to bet on it..

Not my problem if they don't come in November, i'm not betting on it like fools seem to and i wont be hurt if it doesn't ever come at all!

I'm here for the tech what are you here for? Because if we don't get behind tech advancement like this and support it but instead bash its every move to exist like so many fools are with their impatience and lack of respect and understanding for this industry. We will hand more rubbish onto our kids and fuck up any kind of hope they have at gaining back and keeping some of the freedoms they have! You are either against that or for it. All because of some fools wanting to bet on its price and upset because its taking so long so proceed to waste perfect forum space, time and energy on stupid questions, stupid issues and pointless, baseless accusations!

4 months!! To do what this project has done. It, by far, eclipses any project in cryptocurrency world to date! You cannot deny it!


The headline reads: Anonymous Shadow Eclipses Other Privacy Projects with Zero Knowledge

Since no code has been released IMO it should have read: Anonymous Shadow Seeks To Eclipse Other Privacy Projects with Zero Knowledge

But its not so significant. Thanks for your candid feedback about deadlines. Illuminating.
Anon is why Im in crypto so I wish you the best of luck in this endeavour.

As for a definition of propaganda? I don't need a dictionary. As a famous judge once said about pornography… "I know it when I see it"  Smiley
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/09/27/the-origins-of-justice-stewarts-i-know-it-when-i-see-it/

But hey it worked! I'm in here and checking the price on Trex. Good luck with the ANON!

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October 26, 2014, 01:38:20 PM
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Read the article on deepdotweb.

3 observations:

1) its a good run-down of anon developments to date
2) the headline is misleading
3) it feels quite a lot like shadow propaganda (the whole Matrix thing + comic references + references to the Anonymous group)

personal feelings:

I encourage all anon development. It is incredibly hard (from what I gather). The chances of SDC rolling out a functional ZK wallet in November seem small. Comments?

Q. Is there a connection between SDC and Anonymous as implied in the article?

Quote
How this bit of hero geekery pertains to cryptocurrency is because of a new project called Shadow, born of the the Anonymous collective, known for holding evildoers accountable for their actions

thanks in advance

Hit a few nerves? Thats cool, we all have our tools, thats what you should remember. And yes we are all anonymous its not a group you need to apply to become apart of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
You just are apart of it if you are fighting for anonymity as opposed to not trying to focus on it!  

As for the article being propaganda; i encourage you to take a look at the definition of the word itself. If you didn't like some of the references in it thats cool. It is a controversial one but however much it is; its still framing the facts. Truth hurts and its expected that not everyone is comfortable with the facts laid out.. I don't think the headline is misleading at all. Fact is, zero knowledge and Shadow eclipses any projects work to date!
Remove your emotion and stay focused on the fight here. Its anonymity, please focus your cannons elsewhere and contribute as opposed to pick at immaterial, emotional hooks built into an article..

As for zk being released in November, well no one really knows. There is a roadmap because the community wanted it (remember its only a guide!) but if the devs had their way there wouldn't be one to begin with. Because fools come and start picking at it and pressuring them (using it as a a base of argument) because the fools are betting so much on it arriving at a certain time..Which is stupid, this inst tried and true development cycles here. Its cutting edge and people forget that because they're not here for the tech they are here to bet on it..

Not my problem if they don't come in November, i'm not betting on it like fools seem to and i wont be hurt if it doesn't ever come at all!

I'm here for the tech what are you here for? Because if we don't get behind tech advancement like this and support it but instead bash its every move to exist like so many fools are with their impatience and lack of respect and understanding for this industry. We will hand more rubbish onto our kids and fuck up any kind of hope they have at gaining back and keeping some of the freedoms they have! You are either against that or for it. All because of some fools wanting to bet on its price and upset because its taking so long so proceed to waste perfect forum space, time and energy on stupid questions, stupid issues and pointless, baseless accusations!

4 months!! To do what this project has done. It, by far, eclipses any project in cryptocurrency world to date! You cannot deny it!


The headline reads: Anonymous Shadow Eclipses Other Privacy Projects with Zero Knowledge

Since no code has been released IMO it should have read: Anonymous Shadow Seeks To Eclipse Other Privacy Projects with Zero Knowledge

But its not so significant. Thanks for your candid feedback about deadlines. Illuminating.
Anon is why Im in crypto so I wish you the best of luck in this endeavour.

As for a definition of propaganda? I don't need a dictionary. As a famous judge once said about pornography… "I know it when I see it"  Smiley
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/09/27/the-origins-of-justice-stewarts-i-know-it-when-i-see-it/

But hey it worked! I'm in here and checking the price on Trex. Good luck with the ANON!

Hit a few nerves? No, did I?



No. Definitly not. I personally couldn't care less what skeptical people say, cause you guys are just popping up here and making assumptions, while i've been following shadow till almost the beginning.
I also knew Rynomster from before the shadow project was launched, so i don't have the same relation to him as i'd have to an "adopted" dev...  I do trust his capacities to deliver, and i know he's working hard and he can make it.
It's just that, as members of the community, we are having a better position to judge.

As you said " I know it when I see it"  and I know Shadow is gonna deliver...

If you wanna get a train ticket or not, it's not my business, but it's already good if you keep an eye on it. If you like the technology once its out, you can also decide to purchase it only then.  Wink
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October 26, 2014, 01:43:44 PM
Last edit: October 26, 2014, 01:54:22 PM by LongAndShort
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I like what Snowden says:
The bottom line, and I’ve repeated this again and again, is that encryption does work. We need to think of it as defense against the dark arts. We need to be implementing and actively researching and improving it on the academic level.”
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October 26, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
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Those dumbs who invested in shadowcash not get tired. AndShortDick back to spread fud and troll in xst thread.
Then:
Only an idiot to not realize that zero knowledge will never be implemented because simply there is no zerocoin / zerocash.
Shadowcoin devs were trying to dump some coins and appeared speaking that is almost ready and will be implemented in early November lol.
They made a small pump for 36 hours with 15 btc and then dumped 50 btc in suckers lol
If zero knowledge is about to be released, then why is in the roadmap to copy and paste the code from monero to implement ring signatures?
If zk works, no need to ring signatures. lol
Just look to bittrex. Dump volumes are much larger than those used to raise the price.
Just need buy 20 coins for the price rise and sell 500 to fall to 15k lol

Go away child!
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October 26, 2014, 04:06:58 PM
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SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH

It's your idiocy you should be apologising for.  Cheesy

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October 26, 2014, 04:10:05 PM
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Emilio came in here after LongAndShort started trolling the XST thread (again). PLease dont bother Emilio and don't engage in this tiresome nonsense.

I'll repeat there what I told LongAndShort there here:

Seriously… you're acting like a total sh*tface and damaging SDC in the process. The SDC community in tiny and will not evolve with your style of leadership imo. Good luck with that!

Just thought you should all consider this…

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October 26, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
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Emilio came in here after LongAndShort started trolling the XST thread (again). PLease dont bother Emilio and don't engage in this tiresome nonsense.

I'll repeat there what I told LongAndShort there here:

Seriously… you're acting like a total sh*tface and damaging SDC in the process. The SDC community in tiny and will not evolve with your style of leadership imo. Good luck with that!

Just thought you should all consider this…

Are you ill or just born that stupid. How on earth does my presence in another thread have anything to do with Shadow? ffs get a life kid!
You just never like anythign i have to say so the only way you can attack me is to anoy and justify others trolling a project that ill say it again
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I SAID IN ANOTHER THREAD!
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October 26, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
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Those dumbs who invested in shadowcash not get tired. AndShortDick back to spread fud and troll in xst thread.
Then:
Only an idiot to not realize that zero knowledge will never be implemented because simply there is no zerocoin / zerocash.
Shadowcoin devs were trying to dump some coins and appeared speaking that is almost ready and will be implemented in early November lol.
They made a small pump for 36 hours with 15 btc and then dumped 50 btc in suckers lol
If zero knowledge is about to be released, then why is in the roadmap to copy and paste the code from monero to implement ring signatures?
If zk works, no need to ring signatures. lol
Just look to bittrex. Dump volumes are much larger than those used to raise the price.
Just need buy 20 coins for the price rise and sell 500 sdc to fall to 15k lol
Probably now that I said that, they're going to put a fake buy wall again lol


Go away kid unless you have something on topic to talk about Shadow or you disagree with something someone has said here and its on topic!! because now you're spamming! But also bumping this thread!
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October 26, 2014, 04:17:00 PM
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O yea, Happy Birthday Ryno/sdcdev you deserve a good one
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October 26, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
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But DERPDY DERP DERP!!!

SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH

It's your idiocy you should be apologising for.  Cheesy

lol I'm going to draw to you understand, retard:

English is not my first language, nor the second and nor the third.
how many languages ​​you speak? lol




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It's not your language skills I was referring to. It's the fact that you're a moron.

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It's about time you grew up emilio! you don't scare anyone!
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October 26, 2014, 04:31:12 PM
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Anyone know where to get the iOS app for shadowchat?

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October 26, 2014, 04:50:18 PM
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Read the article on deepdotweb.

3 observations:

1) its a good run-down of anon developments to date
2) the headline is misleading
3) it feels quite a lot like shadow propaganda (the whole Matrix thing + comic references + references to the Anonymous group)

personal feelings:

I encourage all anon development. It is incredibly hard (from what I gather). The chances of SDC rolling out a functional ZK wallet in November seem small. Comments?

Q. Is there a connection between SDC and Anonymous as implied in the article?

Quote
How this bit of hero geekery pertains to cryptocurrency is because of a new project called Shadow, born of the the Anonymous collective, known for holding evildoers accountable for their actions

thanks in advance

Hit a few nerves? Thats cool, we all have our tools, thats what you should remember. And yes we are all anonymous its not a group you need to apply to become apart of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
You just are apart of it if you are fighting for anonymity as opposed to not trying to focus on it! 

As for the article being propaganda; i encourage you to take a look at the definition of the word itself. If you didn't like some of the references in it thats cool. It is a controversial one but however much it is; its still framing the facts. Truth hurts and its expected that not everyone is comfortable with the facts laid out.. I don't think the headline is misleading at all. Fact is, zero knowledge and Shadow eclipses any projects work to date!
Remove your emotion and stay focused on the fight here. Its anonymity, please focus your cannons elsewhere and contribute as opposed to pick at immaterial, emotional hooks built into an article..

As for zk being released in November, well no one really knows. There is a roadmap because the community wanted it (remember its only a guide!) but if the devs had their way there wouldn't be one to begin with. Because fools come and start picking at it and pressuring them (using it as a a base of argument) because the fools are betting so much on it arriving at a certain time..Which is stupid, this inst tried and true development cycles here. Its cutting edge and people forget that because they're not here for the tech they are here to bet on it..

Not my problem if they don't come in November, i'm not betting on it like fools seem to and i wont be hurt if it doesn't ever come at all!

I'm here for the tech what are you here for? Because if we don't get behind tech advancement like this and support it but instead bash its every move to exist like so many fools are with their impatience and lack of respect and understanding for this industry. We will hand more rubbish onto our kids and fuck up any kind of hope they have at gaining back and keeping some of the freedoms they have! You are either against that or for it. All because of some fools wanting to bet on its price and upset because its taking so long so proceed to waste perfect forum space, time and energy on stupid questions, stupid issues and pointless, baseless accusations!

4 months!! To do what this project has done. It, by far, eclipses any project in cryptocurrency world to date! You cannot deny it!

One question to that:

Does Shadowsend v.2 if it is as described in the article make Darkcoin, Blackcoin, Bitcoindark worthless?

Because in the end ShadowCash delivers the best anon feature which does not need any nodes?

Please don't understand my question as a "fight" I just want to understand in which Anon Coin an investor should invest for the future.

Thanks!

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October 26, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
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Anyone know where to get the iOS app for shadowchat?

It's not available as a standalone app, only as part of the wallet:

Mobile (phone must be jailbroken) / desktop

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October 26, 2014, 04:53:46 PM
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Anyone know where to get the iOS app for shadowchat?

It's not available as a standalone app, only as part of the wallet:

Mobile (phone must be jailbroken) / desktop

And not to forget the tutorial Smiley
http://shadowhangout.com/topic/86/ios-shadowgo-installation-tutorial

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October 26, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
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Read the article on deepdotweb.

3 observations:

1) its a good run-down of anon developments to date
2) the headline is misleading
3) it feels quite a lot like shadow propaganda (the whole Matrix thing + comic references + references to the Anonymous group)

personal feelings:

I encourage all anon development. It is incredibly hard (from what I gather). The chances of SDC rolling out a functional ZK wallet in November seem small. Comments?

Q. Is there a connection between SDC and Anonymous as implied in the article?

Quote
How this bit of hero geekery pertains to cryptocurrency is because of a new project called Shadow, born of the the Anonymous collective, known for holding evildoers accountable for their actions

thanks in advance

Hit a few nerves? Thats cool, we all have our tools, thats what you should remember. And yes we are all anonymous its not a group you need to apply to become apart of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
You just are apart of it if you are fighting for anonymity as opposed to not trying to focus on it!  

As for the article being propaganda; i encourage you to take a look at the definition of the word itself. If you didn't like some of the references in it thats cool. It is a controversial one but however much it is; its still framing the facts. Truth hurts and its expected that not everyone is comfortable with the facts laid out.. I don't think the headline is misleading at all. Fact is, zero knowledge and Shadow eclipses any projects work to date!
Remove your emotion and stay focused on the fight here. Its anonymity, please focus your cannons elsewhere and contribute as opposed to pick at immaterial, emotional hooks built into an article..

As for zk being released in November, well no one really knows. There is a roadmap because the community wanted it (remember its only a guide!) but if the devs had their way there wouldn't be one to begin with. Because fools come and start picking at it and pressuring them (using it as a a base of argument) because the fools are betting so much on it arriving at a certain time..Which is stupid, this inst tried and true development cycles here. Its cutting edge and people forget that because they're not here for the tech they are here to bet on it..

Not my problem if they don't come in November, i'm not betting on it like fools seem to and i wont be hurt if it doesn't ever come at all!

I'm here for the tech what are you here for? Because if we don't get behind tech advancement like this and support it but instead bash its every move to exist like so many fools are with their impatience and lack of respect and understanding for this industry. We will hand more rubbish onto our kids and fuck up any kind of hope they have at gaining back and keeping some of the freedoms they have! You are either against that or for it. All because of some fools wanting to bet on its price and upset because its taking so long so proceed to waste perfect forum space, time and energy on stupid questions, stupid issues and pointless, baseless accusations!

4 months!! To do what this project has done. It, by far, eclipses any project in cryptocurrency world to date! You cannot deny it!

One question to that:

Does Shadowsend v.2 if it is as described in the article make Darkcoin, Blackcoin, Bitcoindark worthless?

Because in the end ShadowCash delivers the best anon feature which does not need any nodes?

Please don't understand my question as a "fight" I just want to understand in which Anon Coin an investor should invest for the future.

Thanks!



Real questions aren't fights and are always welcomed.

 If you are going for the end-all anonymity feature then yes, ShadowSend v2 will make certain other anon-focused Crypto-Currencies obsolete. However, I believe that each project that is honest and works on their development will have some sort of place within the scene. For BlackCoin however, as they are non anon-focused this lies different. In my mind it would be Bitcoin as the premier PoW coin, BlackCoin as the premier PoS coin and ShadowCash as the premier anon coin with its release of ZK tech.

ZK Anon tech is the holy grail of anon, and is the top rung of the ladder. I myself as far as anon coin investing have 80% in sdc witht he rest spread among other anon coins, because in the long run Shadow will give me the greatest return on investment and be the clear leader with ZK release. Hypers and pumpers run amock in the alt coin world so there are always unexpected rises based off fluff, or people speculating.

As in all things do your research, and at the very least keep and eye on shadow and watch for ZK to release.
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October 26, 2014, 05:09:07 PM
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Is there anyway we could create a faucet or give away for the real Anonymous community(I was thinking a darkweb giveaway, along the lines of a .onion or .I2P faucet). We need to start putting coins it to the hands of our own. Also I would love to help test if that's possible? I will be in the irc.anonops.com/#shadow almost all day today, please reach out to me over there. Im Silentone


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Is there anyway we could create a faucet or give away for the real Anonymous community(I was thinking a darkweb giveaway, along the lines of a .onion or .I2P faucet). We need to start putting coins it to the hands of our own. Also I would love to help test if that's possible? I will be in the irc.anonops.com/#shadow almost all day today, please reach out to me over there. Im Silentone

yes this is planned.
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Is there anyway we could create a faucet or give away for the real Anonymous community(I was thinking a darkweb giveaway, along the lines of a .onion or .I2P faucet). We need to start putting coins it to the hands of our own. Also I would love to help test if that's possible? I will be in the irc.anonops.com/#shadow almost all day today, please reach out to me over there. Im Silentone


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we have one its here but its crappy and does not have a captchya the link is on the wiki also http://faucet.shadow.cash/ ill build a proper working one right now!
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October 26, 2014, 05:26:36 PM
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Anyone know where to get the iOS app for shadowchat?

It's not available as a standalone app, only as part of the wallet:

Mobile (phone must be jailbroken) / desktop

And not to forget the tutorial Smiley
http://shadowhangout.com/topic/86/ios-shadowgo-installation-tutorial

Well I'm not jailbroken, so any links to a video of iOS app working?

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