[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Ohh, I didn't mean All of the time I meant alot of the time. My bad, I was playing loose with the verbage.

AFA the Laser Tech it was only competing with tape when released and cdroms didn't come out till much later. they had ample opportunity to own the market but in their case they priced the majority out of the market. IIRC I was making $2.80 an hour and the machine was $800 and one movie was $50 which is just an insane amount for the time. I think they only had 4 movies on launch and Logans Run was the one I wanted.

Yep, and there was virtually no protective coating on the things, so the smallest scratch on the disc pretty much ensured the picture would lock up indefinitely at some point

We're on the same page. You're saying at any given point in time an inferior tech might be favored due to prohibitive cost or other limitations of its rival. I can agree with that.

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[doc12]

Any news on the Monero Trezor integration ? now that RingCT is ready.

[Febo]

Any news on the Monero Trezor integration ? now that RingCT is ready.

If I remember right they are upgrading things they already have. something like Trezor v2. And spending their full time for that and when finished, will start adding new coins. Since if they would do before would need to renew it.

I expect Ledger will add Monero before Trezor. But even that will not happen really soon. but who knows.

[Arvydas77]

I guess that in long term Monero will rise to 50 USD and probably more. I'm happy about great work done by the developers and fluffypony is one of the best on the scene. As Charlie Lee stated in his twitter post, XMR team are doing honest marketing, so they are not expanding as wide as Dash. But Monero has better technology and in long term it should surpass all the other privacy oriented alts.

[Monerobuyer]

Has xmr bottomed for now? Safe to accumulate? I got into Monero 5 days after I discovered bitcoin but now the price is so high....


Does aeon have any advantages that might make it overtake xmr in the distant future?


Might aeon have iOS wallet before xmr?

[G8888]

Hi!
I found a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

[Chin Cheng]

Hi!
I found a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

What kind of company is that. Usually i dont trust any websites ending with cc  if you want to earn monero you have to either mine it or purchase it other than that no one is going to give away free coins.

[Millionero]

Hi!
I found founded a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

FTFY

[Febo]

Has xmr bottomed for now? Safe to accumulate? I got into Monero 5 days after I discovered bitcoin but now the price is so high....


Does aeon have any advantages that might make it overtake xmr in the distant future?


Might aeon have iOS wallet before xmr?

some would not agree with you that Bitcoin price is high and expect it close to million $ at some point.


I think AEON advantage is written in its ANN.  I doubt much things will happen first in AEON.

[TrueCryptonaire]

Hi!
I found a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

What kind of company is that. Usually i dont trust any websites ending with cc  if you want to earn monero you have to either mine it or purchase it other than that no one is going to give away free coins.

...Or you can earn it by giving some sort of service for XMR, like there is someone offering his coding skills on reddit and if you pay him/her with XMR he offers you a decent discount because he seems to appreciate financial privacy.

[Monerobuyer]

Is iphone 7s not powerful enough for IOS wallet? is that why its missing? Will iphone 8 be powerful enough?

I mean xmr price is high...my heart will break if it falls much more after I invest all my money in the world :-(

I hate my job and I will probably have heart attack soon, so I decided to gamble (almost) it all on 1 crypto....I know thats crazy but if I keep doing this job I'll likely die soon....I know its not your problem, but this is my one chance....much better odds than powerball.... :-(

[TrueCryptonaire]

Is iphone 7s not powerful enough for IOS wallet? is that why its missing? Will iphone 8 be powerful enough?

I mean xmr price is high...my heart will break if it falls much more after I invest all my money in the world :-(

I hate my job and I will probably have heart attack soon, so I decided to gamble (almost) it all on 1 crypto....I know thats crazy but if I keep doing this job I'll likely die soon....I know its not your problem, but this is my one chance....

Well if you are looking for an opportunity to get rich, I think Monero has decent odds for that. If you are able and willing to gamble for a few year gamble I think all in Monero (the part of money you do not need for rent/utilities unless you will not find a merchant who accepts Moneros for those) is the best currency for that. Each month nibbling Moneros from the global pie should never hurt.

[rpietila]

Agree with TC here.

[Nathan047]

I honestly think XMR is going to do fairly well, but end up being catered to darknets and scammers.

[Shiroslullaby]

I can definitely see monero hitting $50, although it would probably be a few years from now.
XMR is a long-term investment at this point, anyways.
As I said before, you would be crazy not to own at least a bit if you are making a crypto portfolio.

[pa]

How would BTC ETF approval next month affect XMRBTC and XMRUSD over the next 3 months & the next year?

[Hueristic]

Hi!
I found founded a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

FTFY

HA!! Good one.

AFA the Floor, who is to say, it all depends if some whale wants to try another dump and spread fud causing panic sells into his bag. But if that happens then there will be another pump so he can dump it back on our heads.

IOW the market is still too small for serious stability, hell even BTC's is too small.

[bobabouey2]

Ohh, I didn't mean All of the time I meant alot of the time. My bad, I was playing loose with the verbage.

AFA the Laser Tech it was only competing with tape when released and cdroms didn't come out till much later. they had ample opportunity to own the market but in their case they priced the majority out of the market. IIRC I was making $2.80 an hour and the machine was $800 and one movie was $50 which is just an insane amount for the time. I think they only had 4 movies on launch and Logans Run was the one I wanted.

Yep, and there was virtually no protective coating on the things, so the smallest scratch on the disc pretty much ensured the picture would lock up indefinitely at some point

We're on the same page. You're saying at any given point in time an inferior tech might be favored due to prohibitive cost or other limitations of its rival. I can agree with that.

For what it is worth, it wasn't a lack of protective coating that made laser discs less reliable than CDs or DVDs.  In addition to gradual improvement of the technology, two key breakthroughs for CDs was that they were digital (Laserdiscs were analog) and also incorporated the Sony patented cross-interleaved Reed–Solomon code for error detection and error correction. This meant small scratches no longer impacted the output.

Laserdisc providers didn't intentionally price themselves out of the market. They were cumbersome (large players, needed multiple sides / discs per movie, delicate discs); a one trick pony (as mentioned, can't record TV, home videos, porn); and had more centralized manufacturing (complicated mastering process and moulding of multilayer discs, vs. just buying a bunch of recorders and duplicating porn or other non-mainstream content).  Their market was limited to videophiles.  They never got enough widespread adoption to drive the costs down as happened with VCRs and later DVDs.  

So I don't think you can simply say Laserdisc was "better technology" at the time.  And if you want to move to the underlying technology of "recording data using bumps on a piece of plastic that is decoded by a laser reading reflectively" vs "recording data using magnetic storage", well, the laptop I use to listen to music and watch movies only has the latter technology, and my other laptop has neither!

But back to Monero - while I was typing this, nice little rally!  

[mambamanagement]

Is iphone 7s not powerful enough for IOS wallet? is that why its missing? Will iphone 8 be powerful enough?

I mean xmr price is high...my heart will break if it falls much more after I invest all my money in the world :-(

I hate my job and I will probably have heart attack soon, so I decided to gamble (almost) it all on 1 crypto....I know thats crazy but if I keep doing this job I'll likely die soon....I know its not your problem, but this is my one chance....

Well if you are looking for an opportunity to get rich, I think Monero has decent odds for that. If you are able and willing to gamble for a few year gamble I think all in Monero (the part of money you do not need for rent/utilities unless you will not find a merchant who accepts Moneros for those) is the best currency for that. Each month nibbling Moneros from the global pie should never hurt.

I wasn't going to have a heart attack if I kept my day job. but I knew I had to be a big leaguer

[Hueristic]

For what it is worth, it wasn't a lack of protective coating that made laser discs less reliable than CDs or DVDs.  In addition to gradual improvement of the technology, two key breakthroughs for CDs was that they were digital (Laserdiscs were analog) and also incorporated the Sony patented cross-interleaved Reed–Solomon code for error detection and error correction. This meant small scratches no longer impacted the output.

Laserdisc providers didn't intentionally price themselves out of the market. They were cumbersome (large players, needed multiple sides / discs per movie, delicate discs); a one trick pony (as mentioned, can't record TV, home videos, porn); and had more centralized manufacturing (complicated mastering process and moulding of multilayer discs, vs. just buying a bunch of recorders and duplicating porn or other non-mainstream content).  Their market was limited to videophiles.  They never got enough widespread adoption to drive the costs down as happened with VCRs and later DVDs.  

So I don't think you can simply say Laserdisc was "better technology" at the time.  And if you want to move to the underlying technology of "recording data using bumps on a piece of plastic that is decoded by a laser reading reflectively" vs "recording data using magnetic storage", well, the laptop I use to listen to music and watch movies only has the latter technology, and my other laptop has neither!

But back to Monero - while I was typing this, nice little rally!  

The bolded sure didn't stop vinyl, As a matter of fact They are still made today right?

And as to the market being limited to Videophiles, that was a direct result of the rest being priced out. Tell me how many VHS collectors there were and if they were priced competitively which do you think the majority would prefer? And of course better tech was found and adopted, THAT happens to every Tech there is. And yes once again Sony cost themselves with copywrite just like the Betamax. But as a simple recorded media storage device Laserdisc was leaps and bounds beyond any magnet tape consumer system, that just cannot be argued.

Oh yeah and yes it is a nice rally, just got a little more yesterday at 0.01236290