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December 29, 2016, 04:19:47 AM
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Wanna make $15k usd? Read white paper for syscoin and join us on slack at 12pm pst tom

Reading now. Intrigued. Cheers

Edit: Page two. Turing completeness for the stated use cases is what made me exit eth. It was always going to be its achilles heel. From malicious through to badly written scrypts a myriad of possibilities to cause harm.The problem to solve is at a more abstract level and doesn't require low level capability so to speak. Like giving C to a BI analyst when what he needed was R. Agreed on the hardened toolbox with clear business rules.

Edit: great. But: Wrong coin support

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December 29, 2016, 04:25:02 AM
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Wanna make $15k usd? Read white paper for syscoin and join us on slack at 12pm pst tom

Reading now. Intrigued. Cheers
Thanks.. merry xmas
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December 29, 2016, 04:33:34 AM
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Wanna make $15k usd? Read white paper for syscoin and join us on slack at 12pm pst tom

Reading now. Intrigued. Cheers
Thanks.. merry xmas
same to you and those you care for.

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December 29, 2016, 08:58:08 AM
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The Monero shills won 2016, had you listened to trolls instead and stayed out of the coin you missed the big gains. Congratulations hodlers and community.


This are only top coins by capitalisation. I would love to see a bit wider group of coins. At least 1B+ or even less, since coins that emerged in 2016 cant count here.

I don't understand what you are talking about, did you commented only because of the avatar/sign spam campaign you are engaged?

But if you mean state coins Bitcoin crushed every single one of them, and Monero crushed every other coin so Monero is the indisputable winner, trolls and haters won't point that out its left to us.

lol no, let me rephrase it.

In that table are only top not know how many coins. something like top15 by market capitalisation.

I would like to see at least top100 or at least the ones with 1 million marketcap ( i now see i made mistake and wrote B as a billion here by mistake).

With more coins, Monero is not that lonely as one of most profitable coins in 2016.

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December 29, 2016, 09:27:18 AM
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The Monero shills won 2016, had you listened to trolls instead and stayed out of the coin you missed the big gains. Congratulations hodlers and community.


This are only top coins by capitalisation. I would love to see a bit wider group of coins. At least 1B+ or even less, since coins that emerged in 2016 cant count here.

I don't understand what you are talking about, did you commented only because of the avatar/sign spam campaign you are engaged?

But if you mean state coins Bitcoin crushed every single one of them, and Monero crushed every other coin so Monero is the indisputable winner, trolls and haters won't point that out its left to us.

lol no, let me rephrase it.

In that table are only top not know how many coins. something like top15 by market capitalisation.

I would like to see at least top100 or at least the ones with 1 million marketcap ( i now see i made mistake and wrote B as a billion here by mistake).

With more coins, Monero is not that lonely as one of most profitable coins in 2016.



Difference is try to exit those other ones even with a decent average position as average holder... not possible
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December 29, 2016, 10:09:18 AM
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Wow, It seems that "the Chinese" are buying tons of the new synthetic drug called -P&D- in the "dark market" with Moneros ...

lol, "dark market" go wild.

( Thanks for profits  Wink)

I love 3200 BTC Buy support P&D´s ( Now 2000 BTC, lol)...


Happy new year and BTC ATH for all. Cool
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December 29, 2016, 10:27:35 AM
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Go XMR, you can do it.



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December 29, 2016, 11:38:42 AM
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Go XMR, you can do it.

if you just buy yesterday, congrats, that was possibly one of the worst buy point in the chart for XMR  Grin. Look above Wink
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December 29, 2016, 11:41:20 AM
Last edit: December 29, 2016, 12:17:25 PM by Febo
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The Monero shills won 2016, had you listened to trolls instead and stayed out of the coin you missed the big gains. Congratulations hodlers and community.


This are only top coins by capitalisation. I would love to see a bit wider group of coins. At least 1B+ or even less, since coins that emerged in 2016 cant count here.

I don't understand what you are talking about, did you commented only because of the avatar/sign spam campaign you are engaged?

But if you mean state coins Bitcoin crushed every single one of them, and Monero crushed every other coin so Monero is the indisputable winner, trolls and haters won't point that out its left to us.

lol no, let me rephrase it.

In that table are only top not know how many coins. something like top15 by market capitalisation.

I would like to see at least top100 or at least the ones with 1 million marketcap ( i now see i made mistake and wrote B as a billion here by mistake).

With more coins, Monero is not that lonely as one of most profitable coins in 2016.



Difference is try to exit those other ones even with a decent average position as average holder... not possible

Yes is understandable. Rare coins have such volume as Monero. But still. I decided to make a  list of coins that was traded on Poloniex from 1st January to now and have right now more then $500k market cap.  Got 46 such. There will be for sure some silly coins there, but for sure will give more perspective what happened in 2016.
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December 29, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
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Edit: Brain wasn't working, now is.

Edit 2: GUI question: Can I log in with my mnemonic key for the purpose of verifying that it was written correctly?

You can use the "Restore from 25 word mnemonic seed" option in the Wizard to verify you wrote down your seed correctly.

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December 29, 2016, 01:23:59 PM
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Go XMR, you can do it.

if you just buy yesterday, congrats, that was possibly one of the worst buy point in the chart for XMR  Grin. Look above Wink

Or if it goes to the moon, it is still a decent buying point, given that he is a long term bagholder instead of a short term opportunistic speculator.
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December 29, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
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Monero made a lot of new bagholders yesterday... Roll Eyes
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December 29, 2016, 01:55:32 PM
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Monero made a lot of new bagholders yesterday... Roll Eyes

I am glad the coin gets wider distribution.
I have been a bagholder since June 2014 and my average buying price is under 0.003.
That being said, I am just a small fish and I do not own that many coins but I am still happy for each coin I am holding in my light bags.
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December 29, 2016, 02:18:10 PM
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When will governments start to put pressure on monero? Is it just too small and not taken serious yet?


I've thought about this quite a bit in the past, but I can't really get my head around a solid answer for one primary reason.

Granted, it's a foregone conclusion that "governments" will WANT to "put pressure" on any competitive currency that they feel is excessively out of their control be it bitcoin or monero or zcash or whatever.

But in the case of XMR how exactly would this pressure work?  Precisely BECAUSE it's anonymous, untraceable, un-linkable etc there is more than enough plausible deniability that someone IS NOT EVEN USING IT at all, already, right from the start... isn't there?

So, basically, if the PTB tried to "ban Monero" and everyone just SAYS, "Oh, yeah, I hate that coin!  I never use it!  That's only for criminals!"

But all the while, just the same, IF everyone is simply going ahead and USING it anyway?  If nobody can *prove* that any transactions or coins or anything actually *belongs* to anyone in particular, what can be done about it anyway?

Isn't it really this simple or what am I missing about how "banning" something that's fundamentally "anonymous" really can never work?

A ban is not the concern. There are much smarter methods governments can use to attack the currency. One would be to place vocal "contributors" onto the scene who will build reputation over time but ultimately seek to undermine the project.

This can be as simple as pushing to implement new crypto features before they're fully vetted or reviewed, or even having "trusted" personalities FUD/exit the project en masse.

Yeah... hmm, sounds familiar: where have I heard of something like this happening recently? Cheesy  LOL

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December 29, 2016, 03:03:23 PM
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BTW my download of the XMR blockchain via GUI is *still* not done, but sooooo close LOL hopefully will finally finish today?  Happy New Year Cheesy

Related question, I see that the CLI tools are included (?) "inside" the Mac *.app "container"... in the "Contents" and "MacOS" sub-folders, screenshot :




So, can these be 'directly RUN' from there in order to use the wallet the old-fashion way too, i.e. more control over typing commands (for "save" etc) in addition to using the GUI in a newbie-friendly way i.e. just double-click the icon?

Are there any warnings or danger to be aware of in this case, if so?  Or would it still be better to pre-load the daemon etc from another normal copy of the downloaded command line set of Monero files?

(P.S. Sorry if it's a dumb question BUT this is the kind of thing that needs to be made simple, clear, and easy for NOOBS if HoneyPony is really ever going to gain mainstream use and acceptance!)

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December 29, 2016, 04:26:29 PM
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I have had the GUI crash a few times. I have found the best way to use it on my system is to start monerod from within the GUI folder and monitor progress in cmd window. Once synced start the GUI. When finished exit monerod in cmd then close GUI. YMMV.

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December 29, 2016, 04:29:11 PM
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...So, can these be 'directly RUN' from there in order to use the wallet the old-fashion way too, i.e. more control over typing commands (for "save" etc) in addition to using the GUI in a newbie-friendly way i.e. just double-click the icon?

Are there any warnings or danger to be aware of in this case, if so?  Or would it still be better to pre-load the daemon etc from another normal copy of the downloaded command line set of Monero files?

(P.S. Sorry if it's a dumb question BUT this is the kind of thing that needs to be made simple, clear, and easy for NOOBS if HoneyPony is really ever going to gain mainstream use and acceptance!)

As I understand it, the GUI is a wrapper that passes calls to the daemon ergo if you use the cli to make those calls then you should not hurt anything. I am guessing as I did none of the programming. The only pitfall I can forsee is that the gui would not refresh from those cli calls and display previous data but that is a rookie move and I can't imagine this team putting out something that lame.

As usual feel free to correct me guys, I'm just making educated guesses from experience on other projects.


I have had the GUI crash a few times. I have found the best way to use it on my system is to start monerod from within the GUI folder and monitor progress in cmd window. Once synced start the GUI. When finished exit monerod in cmd then close GUI. YMMV.

Doesn't the GUI display synched when caught up? sorry when I compiled and tested I didn't wait for the entire blockchain. I remember a display of the progress.

Monero made a lot of new bagholders yesterday... Roll Eyes

Yup, and one Big one! Wish it had made me one before the last blastoff but I was on a cooler At the time. Smiley

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December 29, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
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Im new to Monero and wanted to investment into it for long term. What is the best wallet to store my future XMR??
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December 29, 2016, 05:45:41 PM
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Im new to Monero and wanted to investment into it for long term. What is the best wallet to store my future XMR??
Could use one of the coins smoothie is giving away :p.
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December 29, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
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I think poloniex.com - one of the main investors Monero.

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