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April 15, 2017, 02:22:52 AM |
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This is precisely why we should actively be fighting an XMR vs SNARK war and leave lesser 'competitors' to rot.
You suggest a war, but aren't we all in this together? Who we should be "fighting" is the reigning global fiat scam, not each other.
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April 15, 2017, 02:24:36 AM |
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April 15, 2017, 05:08:04 AM |
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It seems the old resistance, 21usd, is the new support. now.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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April 15, 2017, 06:10:25 AM |
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It seems the old resistance, 21usd, is the new support. now.
Somebody once said we'd have some time in the 20's this year...
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April 15, 2017, 01:39:06 PM |
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The head PR trolls of the darkcoin/xcoin/dash scam never rest. Trolling, lying and fuding are main parts of their coin algorithm.
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aminorex
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April 15, 2017, 01:42:05 PM |
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The fact that XMRUSD is higher now than it was before the fake news hit suggests that I have been underestimating the size and growth of the economy. I had previously considered the gap between my Fisher equation estimate and the market clearing price to indicate the degree of forward speculation, but if that were true I would have expected the reaction yesterday to be much stronger and more protracted, as short-horizon speculation should have been biased much more bearishly until the next squeeze caused a reset. Instead, we see deep and persistent demand. Either the committed longs have deeper pockets than I thought, or estimates based solely on alphabay statistics undervalue XMRUSD by roughly a factor of 2.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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April 15, 2017, 02:58:47 PM |
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The fact that XMRUSD is higher now than it was before the fake news hit suggests that I have been underestimating the size and growth of the economy. I had previously considered the gap between my Fisher equation estimate and the market clearing price to indicate the degree of forward speculation, but if that were true I would have expected the reaction yesterday to be much stronger and more protracted, as short-horizon speculation should have been biased much more bearishly until the next squeeze caused a reset. Instead, we see deep and persistent demand. Either the committed longs have deeper pockets than I thought, or estimates based solely on alphabay statistics undervalue XMRUSD by roughly a factor of 2.
Yep... all that. Or just more simply: ...Monero HODL'ers are a tough crowd & ain't easy to fool.
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April 15, 2017, 04:37:43 PM |
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The fact that XMRUSD is higher now than it was before the fake news hit suggests that I have been underestimating the size and growth of the economy. I had previously considered the gap between my Fisher equation estimate and the market clearing price to indicate the degree of forward speculation, but if that were true I would have expected the reaction yesterday to be much stronger and more protracted, as short-horizon speculation should have been biased much more bearishly until the next squeeze caused a reset. Instead, we see deep and persistent demand. Either the committed longs have deeper pockets than I thought, or estimates based solely on alphabay statistics undervalue XMRUSD by roughly a factor of 2.
Yep... all that. Or just more simply: ...Monero HODL'ers are a tough crowd & ain't easy to fool.
I like the way he says it better! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 15, 2017, 04:54:59 PM |
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P.S. {Edit} BTW the hard fork is over? Already? I thought it was gonna be this weekend... hmm
It's really that hard to perform a non-contentious protocol upgrade. Also it seem more and more this paper by the Zcash people was a hit job, with a domain registered a few days ago and published around the HF (few hours ago). Yep this field is that nasty. The key is non-contentious Yup there will always be people opposing a HF, even one that isn't contentious.
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April 15, 2017, 05:57:22 PM |
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I like the way he says it better! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Actually I do too, heh
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Aminorex, what do you think of MimbleWimble?
A lovely thing. I would definitely buy an MW coin on spec. Getting side-chain adoption is a tough row to hoe. For both social and technical reasons I don't expect a generally usable liquidity vehicle to derive from any BTC side-chain in 2017 - and much longer for MW specifically. As I see it, XMR is still the crypto-currency which best represents the essential properties of cash money, and provides by far the best liquidity (and exchange stability!) of all fungible crypto. A truly liquid and usable MW side-chain for BTC could change that, but not for some years yet. I am less enthusiastic about ETH+ZKSNARKS than is Rangedriver, because I think ETH security is a bad joke due to the DAO history and the vast, utterly baroque, attack surface of such a beast. Also, I consider ETH to be something like the Theranos of crypto (but less honest). They do have the advantage of good liquidity right now, but not in a fungible vehicle.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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April 15, 2017, 07:57:08 PM |
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everybody criticize monero but the most stable coin is monero and less effected by pump. i think stability is more important than fake rises.
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April 15, 2017, 10:17:30 PM |
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everybody criticize monero but the most stable coin is monero and less effected by pump. i think stability is more important than fake rises.
3000% in 2016. No pump at all.
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April 15, 2017, 10:19:58 PM |
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Monero Transactions History Can Be Revealed and Exposed: Researchhttps://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-history-can-be-revealed-and-exposed-researchhttp://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdfFluffyPony now claims 80% of transactions are untraceable. So 20% of your transactions are Fucked. Guess which % your Transaction are in? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) They probably only need one of those 20% transaction to get a warrant for the rest. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Only question now is, can you get out before the price crash? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) FYI: Tune in next week , when only 40% of your transactions are untraceable. Then in the months , following None of your Transactions were untraceable. Then a year later, here is a picture of your cellmate. (FYI: He likes to Snuggle.) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fcd%2F5a%2F45%2Fcd5a45833faaa74b12d25219834b7374.jpg&t=665&c=k2TVaGwzIAwh7w) Is this true? Can fluffypony confirm?
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Space for rent if its still trending
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April 16, 2017, 01:06:19 AM |
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Monero Transactions History Can Be Revealed and Exposed: Researchhttps://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-history-can-be-revealed-and-exposed-researchhttp://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdfFluffyPony now claims 80% of transactions are untraceable. So 20% of your transactions are Fucked. Guess which % your Transaction are in? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) They probably only need one of those 20% transaction to get a warrant for the rest. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Only question now is, can you get out before the price crash? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) FYI: Tune in next week , when only 40% of your transactions are untraceable. Then in the months , following None of your Transactions were untraceable. Then a year later, here is a picture of your cellmate. (FYI: He likes to Snuggle.) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fcd%2F5a%2F45%2Fcd5a45833faaa74b12d25219834b7374.jpg&t=665&c=k2TVaGwzIAwh7w) Is this true? Can fluffypony confirm? http://www.monerolink.com/man.... lot of drug dealer and underage pimp will be angry about this ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 16, 2017, 01:22:32 AM |
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That is a big accusation with no (at least none that I am able to see) information to back it up. Perhaps you could elaborate on the issue a little bit more?
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April 16, 2017, 01:24:45 AM |
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Seems Monero lowest fee just reduced by 5 times and are now 0.004 XMR or $0.081 what is 3 times less then Bitcoin with the difference that Monero transactions have no delays.
Defiantly an upside. I used to hate the high transaction fees for Monero, but right now they seem better that Bitcoin’s transaction fees. Then again, I do consider Bitcoin’s fees to be way to high.
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April 16, 2017, 01:54:21 AM |
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nonsense
Is this true? Can fluffypony confirm? Instead of reanimating this rubbish, perhaps you should read the responses to its original posting,
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April 16, 2017, 03:30:22 AM |
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Instead of reanimating this rubbish, perhaps you should read the responses to its original posting,
This kind of posting here and elsewhere just pretty much proves this has been a deliberate FUD campaign. Seems to me that the sock puppets and paid-off campaigners just hope to keep posting new topics and thread additions, about this non-issue, to catch *newbies* afresh and inject fear and uncertainty (and doubt LOL) into the idea that Monero really IS the best and only true fungible anon crypto. Expecting 'em to spend any time reading actual responses a page or two back -- that totally debunk the entire topic -- isn't part of their campaign job assignment. Ain't gonna happen unfortunately. The good news however is... it really ain't workin' for 'em HoneyPony's still holding steady just a smidge under our new apparent floor of around $21 dollars. Just gotta wait a while for this shitstorm to blow over I guess... wonder how long they'll TRY to keep it up??
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