[XMR] Monero Speculation

[bitwolf]

In my opinion, the monero will fall and fall and go into oblivion, the capitalization of $ 30 million

Just out of curiosity I checked your posts and just as I though they were all one phrase "up","down", "moon" "fall" etc. posts all in the last 24 hours. When I see someone saying that Monero will fall he always turns out to be a speculative piece of s..t that doesn't understand anything about cryptos.

[CrackDown]

i remember when i first saw monero, it is $0.50 and i did not buy any monero at that time because no friendly user interface wallet.

today i see the price and OMG...WTF i am seeing ?


buy the crypto while you can and hold for a years,..

[smooth]

In my opinion, the monero will fall and fall and go into oblivion, the capitalization of $ 30 million

Just out of curiosity I checked your posts and just as I though they were all one phrase "up","down", "moon" "fall" etc. posts all in the last 24 hours. When I see someone saying that Monero will fall he always turns out to be a speculative piece of s..t that doesn't understand anything about cryptos.

Activity mining.

[elrippo]

This went viral - it shows 30 pageloads per second. I think the song  is about XMR tbh

See how fast the Global Repeats is growing when you hit the Your Repeats (such as letting it start again).

Yo Risto, your Trust Level is quite shitty at the moment, how come 

[rpietila]

This went viral - it shows 30 pageloads per second. I think the song  is about XMR tbh

See how fast the Global Repeats is growing when you hit the Your Repeats (such as letting it start again).

Yo Risto, your Trust Level is quite shitty at the moment, how come 

If anyone guesses correctly (+/- 10%), the number of days[hours;minutes;seconds] counted so that tomorrow=1, the day following tomorrow=2, etc., that it takes until 50.00000000001%+ of the world (somehow provably with enough margin to silence deVil herself, )prefers "Zechariah is High" to "I don't wanna party", anyone may cause the following:

TRANSFER M 1000mil 1 self [From now on, this is called MONEY§PI:K, and anyone may use green for it.] 

[elrippo]

This went viral - it shows 30 pageloads per second. I think the song  is about XMR tbh

See how fast the Global Repeats is growing when you hit the Your Repeats (such as letting it start again).

Yo Risto, your Trust Level is quite shitty at the moment, how come 

If anyone guesses correctly (+/- 10%), the number of days[hours;minutes;seconds] counted so that tomorrow=1, the day following tomorrow=2, etc., that it takes until 50.00000000001%+ of the world (somehow provably with enough margin to silence deVil herself, )prefers "Zechariah is High" to "I don't wanna party", anyone may cause the following:

TRANSFER M 1000mil 1 self [From now on, this is called MONEY§PI:K, and anyone may use green for it.] 

Don't get me wrong, but your answer is quite a riddle.
So you got stolen your CK funds and now you are held liable for this?

[Febo]

All coins are green so is Monero. Does that means Monero is Altcoin again?

[smooth]

So you got stolen your CK funds and now you are held liable for this?

Just follow the links in his feedback, all the info is there.

Let's try not to veer too far off topic. Fraudulent fractional reserve scams and unpaid debts aren't directly related to Monero speculation

[elrippo]

So you got stolen your CK funds and now you are held liable for this?

Just follow the links in his feedback, all the info is there.

Let's try not to veer too far off topic. Fraudulent fractional reserve scams and unpaid debts aren't directly related to Monero speculation

I was just asking to serve my curious mind 

[medusa13]

i do not understand but assume its relevant, since i miss the information to dismiss its relevancy for now.

has xmr been stolen (as he claims) ?
have paperwallets (with many coins inside) been destroyed ?

or was it all just Bitcoin and no XMR has been involved ?

thanks for answers

[smooth]

i do not understand but assume its relevant, since i miss the information to dismiss its relevancy for now.

has xmr been stolen (as he claims) ?
have paperwallets (with many coins inside) been destroyed ?

Indeed it was claimed that XMR was stolen. Perhaps that would be relevant. The lost and/or damaged paper wallets, I believe, were claimed to be BTC, but I'm not positive.

I've seen no independent nor verifiable evidence of any of this (in fact none at all), nor any refuting it. It could be true, I have no idea.

What is factual is that debts are unpaid, including a small one to me (but much larger ones to others).

There are better threads for this discussion if you want to continue.

[Nathan047]

All coins are green so is Monero. Does that means Monero is Altcoin again?

Monero has always been an altcoin. The only reason why people might not think of it as an altcoin is because it has it’s own unique features and user base; so it’s not cut-throat competition like most other altcoins.

[Hueristic]

This went viral - it shows 30 pageloads per second. I think the song  is about XMR tbh

See how fast the Global Repeats is growing when you hit the Your Repeats (such as letting it start again).

Finally busted you scamming piece of euro trash. Why don't you just fuck off.

For anyone that doesn't know, this guy has been manipulating the market for years and ran a massive scam on the community through a game that was supposed to support the eco system but cost a shitload of members their investments to the tune of at least 500BTC from what I have read.

In my opinion, the monero will fall and fall and go into oblivion, the capitalization of $ 30 million

That is because you are a moron, But you are entitled to your opinion even when it's wrong.

This is more my speed https://youtu.be/-0kcet4aPpQ

Hell yeah! Mine as well. Did you know they are now classifying Floyd as Psychedelic rock? I've done my share and a little more than that.

I am pretty relaxed ...

Glad you are feeling relaxed.  But looks like you are also wrong.

Yet, we may self-interestedly encourage such wrongness, on the theory that his loss is our gain, as for example:

TrueCryptonaire, I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Sign me up.

So you got stolen your CK funds and now you are held liable for this?

Just follow the links in his feedback, all the info is there.

Let's try not to veer too far off topic. Fraudulent fractional reserve scams and unpaid debts aren't directly related to Monero speculation

Actually it is relevant as this was a marketing decision to help create the ecosystem which is an intrgal part of speculation. Not commenting on this would be akin to not commenting on the adoption from the dark Markets.

Although I am of the opinion that the impact will be small on the ecosystem and by extension the price as those that got scammed are from what I can see the majority of long term holders that will not be put off of XMR because of this.

[cryptogasm]

Price prediction for XMR for the next 6 hours?

[saddambitcoin]

Actually it is relevant as this was a marketing decision to help create the ecosystem which is an intrgal part of speculation. Not commenting on this would be akin to not commenting on the adoption from the dark Markets.

Although I am of the opinion that the impact will be small on the ecosystem and by extension the price as those that got scammed are from what I can see the majority of long term holders that will not be put off of XMR because of this.

I would like to clarify that the XMR part of the game remains fully solvent (although most players with XMR balance have withdrawn now). The debt comes from rpietila creating BTC (B1) in-game that was not deposited with a third party, then delaying withdrawals and now claiming to have it stolen.

[ArticMine]

Actually it is relevant as this was a marketing decision to help create the ecosystem which is an intrgal part of speculation. Not commenting on this would be akin to not commenting on the adoption from the dark Markets.

Although I am of the opinion that the impact will be small on the ecosystem and by extension the price as those that got scammed are from what I can see the majority of long term holders that will not be put off of XMR because of this.

I would like to clarify that the XMR part of the game remains fully solvent (although most players with XMR balance have withdrawn now). The debt comes from rpietila creating BTC (B1) in-game that was not deposited with a third party, then delaying withdrawals and now claiming to have it stolen.

Not just XBT (B1) but also EUR (E1). Let us continue this discussion in the proper thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1890786.msg18782403#msg18782403

Edit 1: I should point that this happened only after Crypto Kingdom stopped using an in game currency that was fully backed by XMR, or in other words once Crypto Kingdom was moved of the "Monero Standard".  

Edit 2: This whole affair only serves to illustrate the value of "hard money" such as precious metals or Monero, Bitcoin etc., where the money supply cannot be increased at will, by a "central banker".

[Globb0]

I feel lucky for a change, if it had been a bit less complicated I was in.


Phil

[Hueristic]

Actually it is relevant as this was a marketing decision to help create the ecosystem which is an intrgal part of speculation. Not commenting on this would be akin to not commenting on the adoption from the dark Markets.

Although I am of the opinion that the impact will be small on the ecosystem and by extension the price as those that got scammed are from what I can see the majority of long term holders that will not be put off of XMR because of this.

I would like to clarify that the XMR part of the game remains fully solvent (although most players with XMR balance have withdrawn now). The debt comes from rpietila creating BTC (B1) in-game that was not deposited with a third party, then delaying withdrawals and now claiming to have it stolen.

Not just XBT (B1) but also EUR (E1). Let us continue this discussion in the proper thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1890786.msg18782403#msg18782403

Edit 1: I should point that this happened only after Crypto Kingdom stopped using an in game currency that was fully backed by XMR, or in other words once Crypto Kingdom was moved of the "Monero Standard".  

Edit 2: This whole affair only serves to illustrate the value of "hard money" such as precious metals or Monero, Bitcoin etc., where the money supply cannot be increased at will, by a "central banker".

Thanks for the clarification and info guys, it was quite apparent what was going on when he starting trying to shill his token with promises beyond reality.

[aminorex]

it was quite apparent what was going on when he starting trying to shill his token with promises beyond reality.

While I do believe from what i have read that Risto has defaulted on some obligations, from what I know of him elsewhere, I suspect the principal deceptions were self-deceptions.  It seems likely that the dissonance between his honorable intentions and the outcome of some earlier unwise decisions is creating internal stresses under which one might easily crumble.  Such times test men's souls.  Clearly, from the red, he will not escape with reputation intact.  I do hope he can come out the other side with his moral integrity and his health intact.  Creditors should wisely will themselves to agree, as without them their haircuts are likely to be close to the skin indeed.

[cAPSLOCK]

it was quite apparent what was going on when he starting trying to shill his token with promises beyond reality.

While I do believe from what i have read that Risto has defaulted on some obligations, from what I know of him elsewhere, I suspect the principal deceptions were self-deceptions.  It seems likely that the dissonance between his honorable intentions and the outcome of some earlier unwise decisions is creating internal stresses under which one might easily crumble.  Such times test men's souls.  Clearly, from the red, he will not escape with reputation intact.  I do hope he can come out the other side with his moral integrity and his health intact.  Creditors should wisely will themselves to agree, as without them their haircuts are likely to be close to the skin indeed.

This reflects well my own thoughts.  From the beginning I have been worried that CK could end up a liability.   Looks like it sort of did.

The elephant in the room is the possibility that RP still holds 100s of K of monero...  under these new circumstances what can we expect?

Fuel for speculation indeed...