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Author Topic: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android, iOS, Web  (Read 597134 times)
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January 29, 2015, 10:11:46 AM
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Umm, but SendChat isn't even out yet.

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January 29, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
Last edit: January 30, 2015, 12:20:52 PM by peled1986
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As been said above the comparison is very misleading but it's a good opportunity to clear some of the misinformation presented Smiley

open source:
Sendchat - currently does not have any public applications.
GetGems - Android application is live on Google Play (http://bit.ly/1JgKLbN) - during the beta development phases the source code will not be available to the public. The client side application will be open sourced once we have performed the necessary quality assurance and security analysis to ensure this process will not put our users at risk. It is important to emphasize that all currency-related transactions are currently based on open source code (Counterparty). GetGems Android App Showcase video: http://goo.gl/bXaeoc

Platforms:
Sendchat - currently does not have any public applications (they said they are working on the Android app, and it will take them months more to have the iOS app. It won't be possible to support 8 platforms with the 20 btc they have currently raised)
GetGems - The current app priority list is as follows: (1) Android, (2) iOS, (3) Web/desktop (this covers about 90+ percent of the market share)

User base:
Sendchat - 50M Telegram user base plus Sendchat user base (Currently no application).
GetGems - 50M Telegram user base plus GetGems user base (1,000 - 5,000 Installs). Both Android and iOS apps will be utilizing Telegram open source code to bootstrap users.

Security:
Sendchat - We haven't seen any public information regarding their security mechanism.
GetGems - he app makes significant effort in securing the wallet, encrypting all secrets and making sure your sensitive data never leaves the device. The passphrase for accessing your wallet is encrypted locally on the device. This makes usability better because instead of typing in the entire passphrase every time you want to send BTC/GEMZ to friends, you just need to type in a PIN. But, this also means that if a thief gains access to your physical device, they will have an encrypted copy of your passphrase. In order to decrypt your passphrase, the thief will have to guess your PIN. After several failed attempts to guess the PIN, the server will lock your account and prevent decryption.

Send Altcoins:
Sendchat - ogecoin, Darkcoin, Sendcoin - The reason they have created Sendcoin is because they say bitcoin has a slow confirmation speed, but if they add Dogecoin I don't understand the added value of sendcoin.
GetGems - Initially users will be able to send each other only Bitcoin (BTC) and GEMZ, however as development progresses we are likely to expand the wallet functionality based on the preference of our user base. Every GetGems user automatically gets his own counterparty wallet, thus we are able to add any counterparty token very easily. It's also important to note that btc and gemz serve different target audiences within the GetGems ecosystem. btc is aimed towards users with crypto background, who probably already own BTC and are familiar with it. These users will enjoy a convenient method to send btc to their contacts (ie. without typing addresses). Gemz is aimed towards the common user who doesn’t have a crypto currency background. Since gemz are rewarded for network contribution, these users will own gems just from operating within the network. For scalability, to allow a large number of users who will be sending and receiving small amounts of GEMZ tokens using the Bitcoin blockchain normally requiring fees, GEMZ will utilize a hybrid system for on-chain and off-chain transactions. This allows most GEMZ transactions to be instant and with no fees.

Exchange CryptoCoins to Fiat Currencies:
Sendchat - integration with cryptocaptial
GetGems - our goal is to enable quick and easy purchase of GEMZ/BTC (ie. via credit card), the possible problem is not the integration but regulatory issues which we are learning.

Creators Market:
Sendchat - don't know what they are planing to do.
GetGems - we are working on adding very cool stickers to the application. Also one of the biggest Japanese groups creating stickers for LINE (http://line.me/en/) wants to create stickers for GetGems and we are exploring this field with them.

SendChat Store:
Sendchat - don't know what they are planing to do.
GetGems - there is ALOT of things to do before this as explained above.

Airdrop referral program:
Sendchat - no airdrop
GetGems - GetGems enables users to profit from using and promoting the application incentivizing viral growth. Every privately held social network (ie. Facebook, WhatsApp) profits from user contribution to the network (users introducing other users). The GetGems model revolutionizes this industry by rewarding users directly for their relative network contribution. Contribution is measured by the number of active daily users which were introduced by you to the network so far. The GEMZ are “dropped” into the users’ wallets, hence the term “airdrop”.

Attention economy model:
Sendchat - no real in-app value for sendcoin yet.
GetGems - We are building a social system based on attention economy. If someone wants your attention they need to pay you directly with Gemz. The cost to send such an unsolicited message is dependent on the relative popularity of the recipient using a bidding system commonly employed by Google. More info on the "Airdrop" reward and Attention economy models can be read here: http://bit.ly/1GngtCJ.
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January 29, 2015, 11:23:24 AM
Last edit: January 29, 2015, 01:37:59 PM by reRaise
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This rememberme guy really needs to stop promoting sendchat, the graph must be a joke. Adding alts and games makes the app look cheap. Getgems is just on a different level of innovation and professionalism.
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January 29, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
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I wish Sendchat luck and if I thought it was a better project then Gems I would be invested in them not Gems. But honestly it has very little going for it, firstly its late to the party has none of the innovations planned like the airdrop and the advertising platform which is why Gems is interesting in the first place. If you want an app that simply sends coins then you always have NXTTY. Sendchat last time I looked had only raised about 20 BTC  for its crowdsale, the interest isnt there. And this chart is possibly the most childish thing I have ever seen. It lies, plus its clearly created to make it look like the few things sendchat does that Gems doesn't and probably wont ever want to look like Gems is somehow lacking in features. Its kind of pathetic. Possibly the nail in the coffin of Sendchats chances actually. 
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January 29, 2015, 09:26:20 PM
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The first milestone has been released to the GetGems team!

https://koinify.com/blog/getgems-first-milestone-fund-release/

Keep up the great work guys!
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January 29, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
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The first milestone has been released to the GetGems team!

https://koinify.com/blog/getgems-first-milestone-fund-release/

Keep up the great work guys!

You guys definitely raised the barrier in Crypto crowdfunding, Getgems and Daniel have been doing great so far, looking forward to more updates.
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January 29, 2015, 11:14:20 PM
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The first milestone has been released to the GetGems team!

https://koinify.com/blog/getgems-first-milestone-fund-release/

Keep up the great work guys!

Congrats. Smiley






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January 30, 2015, 12:46:54 AM
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Not work.

Can't find my account on this app. So can't find any my friend on app.

I think Gems is a joke. They make this coin purpose for relax

I think you should stop using modern tech for your own good

What's is modern tech? I can't find my self or my friend on app. So i can't send bitcoin or chat to my friends.

Modern tech is new android app is futility?
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January 30, 2015, 12:53:46 AM
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Not work.

Can't find my account on this app. So can't find any my friend on app.

I think Gems is a joke. They make this coin purpose for relax

I think you should stop using modern tech for your own good

Well i had these problems too. Are you sure that there aren't some server outages sometimes? I promised to give it another try but i wasn't able to join at all also.

nigttran just came to troll by the way of his conclusion, how can you not find your account? adding contacts works fine.

My nick name on Getgemz app is: nigttran
Any one can see me?

All my friend( over 10 persons) referrence has a problem like me.
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January 30, 2015, 01:30:51 AM
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Not work.

Can't find my account on this app. So can't find any my friend on app.

I think Gems is a joke. They make this coin purpose for relax

I think you should stop using modern tech for your own good

Well i had these problems too. Are you sure that there aren't some server outages sometimes? I promised to give it another try but i wasn't able to join at all also.

nigttran just came to troll by the way of his conclusion, how can you not find your account? adding contacts works fine.

My nick name on Getgemz app is: nigttran
Any one can see me?

All my friend( over 10 persons) referrence has a problem like me.

AFAIK they need to have your phone number to add you. Supposedly this will be remedied in a future update, if I remember correctly.

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January 30, 2015, 05:13:49 AM
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@Daniel Peled. I wouldn't bother post on other coin threads, you were civil and polite and truthful but I think it's a bad idea. Let's others in community do the dirty work for you if nessecary. Personally I wouldn't even bother answering other coins veiled attacks most of the time anyway.
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January 30, 2015, 05:17:06 AM
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Is datamining possible through this platform?

I'm not fudding.  I really want to know.  It's centralized.  And user centric.  Serious responses only, please.
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January 30, 2015, 08:15:16 AM
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@Daniel Peled. I wouldn't bother post on other coin threads, you were civil and polite and truthful but I think it's a bad idea. Let's others in community do the dirty work for you if nessecary. Personally I wouldn't even bother answering other coins veiled attacks most of the time anyway.
That was a one time action imo and I really appreciated the pm I got from Daniel. Yes a pm, because he didn't want to "hi jack" the other coin's thread.
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January 30, 2015, 09:26:19 AM
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Is datamining possible through this platform?
I'm not fudding.  I really want to know.  It's centralized.  And user centric.  Serious responses only, please.

If you use secret chats, all your messages use end-to-end encryption meaning datamining isn't possible. More information here: https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-secret-chats-different

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January 30, 2015, 09:36:27 AM
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My nick name on Getgemz app is: nigttran
Any one can see me?
All my friend( over 10 persons) referrence has a problem like me.
AFAIK they need to have your phone number to add you. Supposedly this will be remedied in a future update, if I remember correctly.

True, the next update will implement unsolicited messages and searching for GetGems usernames.

Q: When will users be able to search for GetGems usernames and start an unsolicited chat? Why can I find some usernames but other not? is this a bug?

A: Currently, the in-app search mostly relies on users from your contact list and existing chat conversations. We also have username search, but this currently fallbacks to Telegram username search. Since you cannot set a Telegram username in the app, the search results you are seeing are actually for users who set the same username for this phone number in a previous Telegram account that they have. This means it’s not really a bug, but more that it isn’t currently searching for the correct usernames.

Regarding the implementation of unsolicited messages and searching for GetGems usernames - we are currently working on this feature. In the future, our model dictates that sending unsolicited messages to users who don’t necessarily want to receive them, will cost GEMZ (this is part of the attention economy model). The first implementation of the feature will not require a GEMZ payment to send unsolicited messages, and unsolicited messages will be open for everybody. But, since we want to be able to add the GEMZ payment in the future, we have to plan this feature carefully.

You can expect to see the first version of this feature (searching by GetGems username and free-for-all unsolicited messaging) in the next couple of weeks.
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January 30, 2015, 10:08:15 AM
Last edit: January 30, 2015, 10:23:16 AM by reRaise
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My nick name on Getgemz app is: nigttran
Any one can see me?
All my friend( over 10 persons) referrence has a problem like me.
AFAIK they need to have your phone number to add you. Supposedly this will be remedied in a future update, if I remember correctly.

True, the next update will implement unsolicited messages and searching for GetGems usernames.

Q: When will users be able to search for GetGems usernames and start an unsolicited chat? Why can I find some usernames but other not? is this a bug?

A: Currently, the in-app search mostly relies on users from your contact list and existing chat conversations. We also have username search, but this currently fallbacks to Telegram username search. Since you cannot set a Telegram username in the app, the search results you are seeing are actually for users who set the same username for this phone number in a previous Telegram account that they have. This means it’s not really a bug, but more that it isn’t currently searching for the correct usernames.

Regarding the implementation of unsolicited messages and searching for GetGems usernames - we are currently working on this feature. In the future, our model dictates that sending unsolicited messages to users who don’t necessarily want to receive them, will cost GEMZ (this is part of the attention economy model). The first implementation of the feature will not require a GEMZ payment to send unsolicited messages, and unsolicited messages will be open for everybody. But, since we want to be able to add the GEMZ payment in the future, we have to plan this feature carefully.

You can expect to see the first version of this feature (searching by GetGems username and free-for-all unsolicited messaging) in the next couple of weeks.

This along with the airdrop and iOS is gentlemen.
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January 30, 2015, 10:51:40 AM
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I suggest to put the community Q&A in the OP and maybe put it on top of the page like i've done it in the Dutch section, it should be updated if there is a new one. Often users ask the same questions which have been covered in the Q&A, there is a general Q&A in the OP but not the community one.
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January 30, 2015, 11:00:53 AM
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Ok i'm giving up. I've installed it 3 times and it still fucks at the screen where i have to enter the number from sms.
Fuck it. GL guys.

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January 30, 2015, 11:11:55 AM
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Ok i'm giving up. I've installed it 3 times and it still fucks at the screen where i have to enter the number from sms.
Fuck it. GL guys.

Where are you located? This is a known problem with Telegram in specific locations.
You can contact them using this form.
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