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May 22, 2013, 04:00:26 AM |
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I looked at this site when they first launched. They don't offer any provably fair games, and their roulette has a bug that should make it +EV for the player. If you bet on the column 3...36 that pays 2-1, it pays out on zero too: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcCV7tcE.png&t=665&c=9hmFNk6h7tU0MA) I reported this bug to them back in November 2012 but it's still not fixed. They were offering free chips at the time, so I tried betting that 3...36 line over and over. Despite it apparently being around 3% in the player's favour, and despite using Kelly betting to manage my bankroll properly, I lost around 8 buyins betting just on that line. That doesn't prove anything, but all this together makes me suspicious. Added and noted. At this point in bitcoin gambling there is no excuse to not be provably fair imho.
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mem (OP)
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May 22, 2013, 04:00:52 AM |
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mem (OP)
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May 22, 2013, 08:54:47 AM |
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mem (OP)
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May 22, 2013, 09:00:04 AM |
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quoting old list for prosperity - LEGEND - Good Legend:-
= considered mathmatically honest, showing you the hash used to generate each game. Ive played them all enough to be a believer. -
= PVP, Player v Player (Poker sunglasses) -
= Responsive and or Helpful Admins (from my personal experience or several good referrals from forum members) Bad Legend:-
= Questions raised regarding fairness/randomness thats waiting on admin response -
= SCAM -
= payout issue/s - removed if/when payout is resolved -
= Non responsive admin
- NOTICE BOARD -
* Matthew N Wright is resolving his bet, if you did make one with him see this thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140654* BitLotto was a long con - Im very sad to hear this, I am trying to contact the admin to confirm. * I have been inactive for a while due to other concerns. For direct contact email (or gmail chat): mem.namefix@gmail.com for any urgent issues ie ongoing scams.
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| ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 | ฿10.00 ฿10.00 ฿10.00 ฿10.00 | Features a Built in Martingale System ! Max bet is actually not capped, but the max win on any wager is (currently BTC 10.0) Admin is a forum member. . . | KingCoin | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Wheel Spin | ฿0.01 | ฿2.00 | Wheel Spin, New game. Admin is a forum member. . | DragonsTale | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.000 | ฿0.010 | MMO Casino | ฿0.001 | ฿900 | Virtual MMO casino, thousands of games to play. Free to play games with btc rewards !. Requires client to be installed. . | BTC Multiplier | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿0.01 | ฿0.00000001 | Sic Bo n-Combo | ฿0.01 | ฿5.0000 | Instant payouts. Admin is a forum member. . | SatoshiRoulette | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿0.005 | ฿0.00000001 | Roulette Dice SicBo CoinFlip LoveTester Scratch n Win Charities | ฿0.010 ฿0.010 ฿0.050 ฿0.050 ฿0.050 ฿0.005 ฿0.050 | ฿2.000 ฿1.000 ฿1.000 ฿1.000 ฿1.000 ฿1.000 ฿0.500 | Admin is a forum member. Instant payouts. Litecoin Support. Many games. Progressive jackpots. . . . . | myriadcoins | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Odds | ฿? | ฿? | Play tested, works great. Admin is a forum member. Site still in BETA. Regrettably site is offline. . . | MineField | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿0.001 | ฿0.250 | Minefield | ฿0.00000001 | ฿5.000 | Admin assures it will be back up soon. Admin is a forum member. Requires 4 confirmations of deposit before allowing cash out. . | BitCoinDarts | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿0.010 | ฿0.001 | Darts | ฿0.010 | ฿40.000 | Admin (mskwik) is a forum member. . | Jackpotdice | ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) | ฿0.010 | ฿? | Dice | ฿0.010 | ฿? | Site appears to be down. Admin is a forum member. | flipbitcoin | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿0.002 | ฿0.100 | Coinflip | ฿0.002 | ฿0.100 | Admin is a forum member. Announcement Thread. . | BC-Casino | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿1.000 | ฿0.010 | Prog. Jackpots Roulette Slots | ฿0.020 ฿0.020 ฿0.020 | ฿10.000 ฿10.000 ฿10.000 | Features a live dealer roulette ! Tested bccasino (Admin) is forum member Mass amounts of games. Can play with installed software or in Flash popup. . | bitZino | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.000001 | ฿? | Roulette Craps | ฿0.000001 | ฿10.000000 | Admin is a forum member (very helpful). Nice Clean UI. . | bitcoinslots | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.010 | ฿? | Slots | ฿0.010 | ฿? | Not to be confused with bitcoinslot. Admin is forum member tentob Site currently in beta. . | BTC-play | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Roulette Slots Yahtzee | ฿0.010 ฿0.010 ฿0.010 | ฿? ฿? ฿? | Admin is a forum member. Fast Payout. Features multiplayer roulette with CPU dealer. Parts of the site are in German, Some games are only in German, but most are easy for English use. . | BitCoinGamer | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Coin Toss Darts Keno Pai Gow Roulette Sic Bo Slots | ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 | ฿0.165 ฿? ฿? ฿? ฿? ฿0.059 ฿? | . . . . . . . . | StrikeSapphire | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Keno Multiplayer Craps Roulette Slots | $0.05 $0.10 $0.01 $0.05 | $0.25 $5.00 $5.00 $1.25 | Not available to the US. . . . . . | LuckyCoin | | ฿? | ฿? | Roulette Slots | ฿0.010 | ฿? | . . . . | GoldGameLand | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Roulette Coin Flip High/Low | ฿? | ฿? | Admin GCInc. is a forum member. . . . | BTCdice | ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Dice | ฿? | ฿? | Site is Offline. The method used to generate results is not verifiable !!!, link . | BittleShips | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.001 | ฿? | Battleship | ฿0.001 | ฿? | Site Offline Admin is forum member. . | ProbIWon | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿0.010 | ฿0.010 | Darts | ฿0.010 | ฿25.000 | Site appears offline. . |
Poker:Site - | Key - | Min Cash In - | Min Cash Out - | Games - | Min Bet - | Max Bet - | Comments - | pmpoker | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿0.001 | ฿0.100 | Poker | ฿0.001 | ฿800.000 | Online casino est since 2000 adds bitcoin support ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Announcement thread. . . | SealsWithClubs | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.001 | ฿0.100 | Texas Holdem | ฿0.001 | ฿800.000 | Regular Tournaments, Free rolls . | SwitchPoker | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿10.000 | Texas Holdem | €0.10 | €? | Allows cashing in via bitcoin and converting to EURO to play. They are also trialing bitcoin games. . | StrikeSapphire | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.01 | $5.00 | Mississippi Seven Omaha Seven Card Stud Sapphire Rummy Texas Holdem Sit & Go buyins | $0.02 $0.02 $0.02 $0.02 $0.02 $0.40 | $1000 $1000 $1000 $1000 $1000 $10000 | Not available to US . . . . . . . . . | | BitWorldPoker | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Texas Holdem | ฿? | ฿? | Site is in Spanish but easy to navigate. . |
Video Poker:Site - | Key - | Min Cash In - | Min Cash Out - | Games - | Min Bet - | Max Bet - | Comments - | bitcoinvideopoker | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.00000001 | ฿0.02 | Jacks or Better | ฿0.001 | ฿.005 | Site Admin is a forum member (...). We provide all provably fair information on the website after every game you play. Features: 0 confirmations required for deposits (2 confirmations required for withdrawals), Double or nothing, some of the best gambling odds for bitcoin available (99.5% ex. return). . . | play.luckco.in | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.001 | ฿0.001 | Jacks or Better Slots | ฿0.001 | ฿.005 | Site Admin is a forum member (abrkn). Makes a decent attempt of being fair, could probably be better. open source. . . | bitZino | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.000001 | ฿? | Jacks or Better | ฿0.000001 | ฿10.000000 | Admin is a forum member (very helpful). Nice Clean UI. Newly Added (Thanks for letting me know Stephen). . | BC-Casino | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿1.000 | ฿0.010 | Baccarat Jacks or Better | ฿0.100 ฿0.100 | ฿10.000 ฿10.000 | Tested bccasino (Admin) is forum member. Can play with installed software or in Flash popup. . | BitCoinGamer | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Badugi, Deuces Wild Jacks Up Mingus Jupiters Red Dog | ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 ฿0.001 | ฿0.050 ฿0.050 ฿0.050 ฿0.050 ฿0.050 | Admin is extremely helpful and open to suggestions for new games. . . . . | LuckyCoin | | ฿? | ฿? | Jacks or Better Red Dog | ฿0.050 | ฿? | . . | StrikeSapphire | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.01 | $5.00 | Deuces Wild Bonus Poker Jacks or Better Video Poker | $0.05 $0.05 $0.05 $0.05 | $0.25 $1.25 $1.25 $1.25 | Not available to the US. . |
Black Jack:Site - | Key - | Min Cash In - | Min Cash Out - | Games - | Min Bet - | Max Bet - | Comments - | BC-Casino | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿1.000 | ฿0.010 | BlackJack | ฿0.100 | ฿10.000 | bccasino (Admin) is forum member Mass amounts of games. Can play with installed software or in Flash popup. . | bitZino | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.000001 | ฿? | BlackJack | ฿0.000001 | ฿10.000000 | Admin is a forum member (very helpful). Nice Clean UI. Announcement thread on reddit. . . | LuckyCoin | | ฿? | ฿? | BlackJack | ฿0.050 | ฿? | . . | BTC-play | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | BlackJack | ฿0.001 | ฿1.000 | Admin is Forum member. Fast payout. Features multiplayer blackjack. Parts of the Site are in German, Some Games are only in German, but most are easy for English use. . | StrikeSapphire | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.01 | $5.00 | BlackJack | $0.10 | $15.00 | Not available to the US Max bet is $15 for new players. $25 for regular players. . |
F.P.S. :Site - | Key - | Min Cash In - | Min Cash Out - | Games - | Min Bet - | Max Bet - | Comments - | bitcointerror | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Urban Terror | ฿? | ฿? | Offline ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
Fantastic concept (I want moar of these). Admin has gone to good lengths to prevent cheating via bot. . . |
Lotteries:Site - | Key - | Min Cash In - | Min Cash Out - | Games - | Min Bet - | Max Bet - | Comments - | BitDraw | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.001 | ฿0.001 | BitDraw | ฿0.001 | ฿∞ | Bitcoin (BTC) deposits are converted to game tokens (TKN) as are token withdrawals converted back into Bitcoin. Static exchange rate is 1:1000. Admin is a forum member. . | taabl | ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.1 | ฿0.00000001 | BitPick | ฿0.1 | ฿0.1 | Wagers are divided in tickets that have a face value, so Max individual bet depends on the game (currently 1 BTC for Pick 2) but any deposit will be accepted. Admin is a forum member. . | Dream Islands Lottery | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.050 | ฿0.100 | Monthly | ฿0.050 | ฿∞ | Announcement and Discussion thread Admin is a forum member | BitCashLotto | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | User Created | ฿0.005 | ฿? | Recommended by bitcoinlotto. . | btclot | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Daily User Created | ฿? | ฿? | run by a forum member. . . | BitCoinLottery | | ฿? | ฿? | Bomb (Weekly) Heptagon | ฿0.200 ฿0.005 | ฿? ฿? | Admin is a forum member. . . | btcblink | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿0.01 | ฿0.250 | Monthly | ฿0.001 | ฿∞ | Announcement and Discussion thread Admin is a forum member Concerns raised over random number generation and selection. Admin is working to improve random number generation. . |
Betting:Site - | Key - | Min Cash In - | Min Cash Out - | Games - | Min Bet - | Max Bet - | Comments - | BetsofBitco.in | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿0.100 | ฿? | Bet on anything | ฿0.100 | ฿∞ | * Be careful when betting on vague/ open bet descriptions thread. Admin coinjedi. | bitbet.us | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fclassicosmania.com%2Fforums%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fsmiley_hitler-t.gif&t=665&c=ZlzA2rJkE9pS_A) | ฿0.100 | ฿? | Bet on anything | ฿0.100 | ฿∞ | * Admin is an outspoken racistRacism * Site operator potentially involved in bet scam Admin is a turd on the forums MrPOO-ER. | BtcSportsBet | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Sport event bets | ฿? | ฿? | . | AnoniBet | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Sport event bets | ฿? | ฿? | . | BackCoin | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿0.010 | ฿0.010 | Starcraft Tourn. | ฿0.010 | ฿∞ | One of the site Admins is a forum member. Bet on tournament results. . | btclot | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Bet on Anything | ฿? | ฿? | run by a forum member. | BTFuture | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Bet on Anything | ฿? | ฿? | . | btcfan | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) | ฿? | ฿? | Bet on Anything | ฿? | ฿? | . |
PENDING
Being listed under pending simply means some questions have been raised and are waiting on answers. As this is a newbie friendly guide only fully endorsed sites make the main list. Pending in no way indicates the site is a scam, it can mean many things such as the site is still in beta or simply requires testing. When time permits I try to give a site a thorough testing by playing all the games, cashing in and out twice, first with a profit and secondly profit/loss. Site | Key | Min Bet | Comments | btcontilt | ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | ฿? | New site. Admin is a forum member. . | syndiquick | | ฿? | newly added, will be reviewed shortly . Recommended by a forum member msg. . . | CasinoBit | | ฿? | newly added, will be reviewed shortly . Recommended by forum member madmadmax. . . | satoshipoker | | ฿? | newly added, will be reviewed shortly .
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SCAM / UNATTENDED
SCAM | Just like a broken vending machine these sites take your money and dont give you anything back / do not deliver as advertised.
| UNATTENDED | The site appears to be no longer maintained. The site may work and may occasionally just eat your money, all efforts to contact the admin have failed (play at your own risk). | MISLEADING | The site has misleading descriptions (ie payouts) to the players disadvantage. For example a site that advertises a 2x payout multiplier with 50% odds, where in fact the odds and or multiplier are actually lower. |
Site | Key | Status | Comments | BitLotto | ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) | NO_PAYOUTS | Admin is forum member., trying to follow this up now. Thank you for the notice Stephen. . | satoshcircle | ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | UNPROVEN | I have requested the admin explain how users can trust the site provided seed generator and have been met with only insults.
I have tried many different ways to approach this topic and the admin bluntly refuses to back up his claims of provably fair - be warned Admin has gotten in contact with me, seems we got off to a bad start, expect full review to be completed shortly. | btcchess | ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | DOWN | Admin is forum member. Site uses modified chess rules to prevent cheating. Site currently down. . | BitcoinSlot | ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | UNATTENDED | Site is offline, users not paid . | BitJack21 | ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | UNATTENDED | Ongoing Payout issues, non responsive admin. I was notified by several users regarding payout issues. I have attempted to contact Andrew but no response yet. . | http://satoshidice.net | ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | SCAM | A domain squatter with a html clone clone of satoshidice.com This site does not pay out at all. It just hopes to collect deposits from gamers who put in the wrong url. Admin Unresponsive. . | http://betcoin.eu | ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) | UNATTENDED | Appears to determine if next number is a winner than has a bot place. I have personally seen a "player" wake up after 16 hours of inactivity to place a single bet of 0.1. My bet of 9 btc would of been next, the "player" then goes offline for another 12 hours. Bet deposited, confirmed but not placed, no refund. Admin Unresponsive. . | http://bitcointoss.com/ | ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | SCAM, UNATTENDED | Numerous non payouts. . | http://btcflip.com/ | ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | SCAM | Mostly does not payout. . | http://btcriches.com/ | ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | SCAM | Does not payout . | http://bitcoindouble.com/ | ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) | SCAM | Does not payout. . |
- Newbie Tips -
- Paying transaction fees will speed up your deposits and help the network.
- Create address for each site for receiving winnings to help track payouts and earnings.
- Label deposits using the sites name, this helps find lost deposits in the event of a site error (with the help of the sites admin).
- If your balance is to low to cash out (on sites that have a minimum), deposit enough btc to the site to cash out.
INFORMATION To make this list you need:- No issues of non payment
- Reliable cash out processing
- Helpful admins (when contact is needed)
- Fair games (ideally md5 or sha1 hashes to prove the results are not based on the clients bet amount)
- No outstanding disputes regarding fairness
- No Pyramid Schemes or Ponzi Schemes sorry
Alternate lists:I do not cover ponzi's or pyramids (ever) and I also do not cover alt currencies (yet), check out some of the other maintained lists for gambling. Reference Articles Using SHA512 hash as random number generator for Gambling servicesGame Review Looking for some advice on how to ensure your game is fair and that people can trust results generated ?. Please see my thread generating fair results Start a thread announcing your game. Notes:- This list is a WIP, it is based on my experiences so far in addition to those of other forum members only.
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dooglus
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quoting old list for prosperity
prosperity : the condition of being successful or thriving or posterity : all future generations
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Just-Dice | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | Play or Invest | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | 1% House Edge |
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May 22, 2013, 10:08:18 AM |
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Small error I noticed, mem. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F2YGyC.png&t=665&c=g8Yi4LfZ-Sm0ZQ) SD has a 500 BTC min cash out ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) May mislead people if left like that
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dooglus
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May 22, 2013, 10:18:33 AM |
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SD has a 500 BTC min cash out ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) May mislead people if left like that SD doesn't really have cash-in or cash-out, since it doesn't have accounts. It has a min and a max bet. I'll update the spreadsheet so it should be fixed next time mem posts here.
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mem (OP)
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May 22, 2013, 02:03:45 PM |
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SD has a 500 BTC min cash out ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) May mislead people if left like that SD doesn't really have cash-in or cash-out, since it doesn't have accounts. It has a min and a max bet. I'll update the spreadsheet so it should be fixed next time mem posts here. Thanks Dooglus, for sites like these (instant blockchain betting) I like to set their min bet as the min cash in/out. Just added http://bitbattle.me/
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May 22, 2013, 08:54:49 PM |
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Thanks Dooglus, for sites like these (instant blockchain betting) I like to set their min bet as the min cash in/out.
Ah. Just after editing the cash-in/out fields last night the power went out here, so I didn't know if my edits were saved or not. I checked again this morning and they were back at min/bet bet, so I thought they hadn't been saved, and made the changes again. Doesn't it make sense to differentiate between games where you can have an account and games where you can't? I sorted the spreadsheet into alphabetical order, so it's easier to find the games.
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mem (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 04:19:35 AM |
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Thanks Dooglus, for sites like these (instant blockchain betting) I like to set their min bet as the min cash in/out.
Ah. Just after editing the cash-in/out fields last night the power went out here, so I didn't know if my edits were saved or not. I checked again this morning and they were back at min/bet bet, so I thought they hadn't been saved, and made the changes again. Doesn't it make sense to differentiate between games where you can have an account and games where you can't? I sorted the spreadsheet into alphabetical order, so it's easier to find the games. yes It does make sense. There seems to be 3 types of games: * blockchain only - SDice * Account System (ie seals) * Address/Hash based Account System, SatoshiCircle, BitcoinGamer, BitcoinDarts. Maybe I can use the blockchain.info icon to indicate its a blockchain game, still thinking about it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks for tidying up the spreadsheet (headers, A-Z etc), helps me as well.
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mem (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 05:02:26 AM |
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INVALID BBCODE: loop, probably unclosed tags
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Dabs
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May 23, 2013, 06:13:29 AM |
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Hi,
My game has been indirectly endorsed by a trusted community member as provably fair. Also, I am the only private individual (that is not a corporation or some other entity) that offers an afterlife payment guarantee. This means, the winner gets paid even if I get hit by a bus or a train or otherwise am incapacitated or dead.
But I don't have a website yet.
Dabs
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mem (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 08:44:54 AM |
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tweaked script, now properly handles N/A in min cash in/out ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Dabs (and other new sites), can you fill in the below please. Site Name: URL: Thread: Player vs Player (yes/no): Provably Fair (yes/no): Games: Edge%: Admin Email: Admin Profile: Min Cash In: Min Cash Out: Min Bet: Max Bet: Notes: I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).
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Dabs
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May 23, 2013, 08:58:59 AM |
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Site Name: Dabs Lotto Number 2 URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855 Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855 Player vs Player (yes/no): Yes Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes Games: Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game. Admin Email: Admin Profile: Dabs Min Cash In: 0.01 Min Cash Out: 0.01 Min Bet: 0.01 Max Bet: 1000.00 Notes: Afterlife Payment Guaranteed = Get the Prize Even if I'm Dead
I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).
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May 23, 2013, 08:59:59 AM |
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mem (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 03:15:52 PM |
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Cant do tables ? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) No, I wont be helping US players circumvent a SDICE's own policy or the law. They can google it themselves ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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mem (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 03:18:01 PM |
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Site Name: Dabs Lotto Number 2 URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855 Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855 Player vs Player (yes/no): Yes Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes Games: Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game. Admin Email: Admin Profile: Dabs Min Cash In: 0.01 Min Cash Out: 0.01 Min Bet: 0.01 Max Bet: 1000.00 Notes: Afterlife Payment Guaranteed = Get the Prize Even if I'm Dead
I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites). Does the thread change every time for each new draw ? Its going to be a pain for me to keep changing your URL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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dooglus
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May 23, 2013, 08:51:07 PM Last edit: May 23, 2013, 09:23:05 PM by dooglus |
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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).
Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website? SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax. If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.
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Matthew N. Wright
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May 23, 2013, 08:55:18 PM |
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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).
Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website? SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax. If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him. It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.
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dooglus
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May 24, 2013, 01:47:35 AM |
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Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.
Where's the fine print? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back. In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back: About Dabs' Raffle:
[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.
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