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September 25, 2014, 01:06:37 PM |
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Holy crap!! You can't even come close to ROI on this.
Bitmain, if you have decided to be a mining farm instead of a hardware sales Co. just tell us and we won't expect anything.
This is lunacy.
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Radelderth
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September 25, 2014, 01:08:45 PM |
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Seriously, people need to stop buying expensive machine.. look at other manufacturer they still sell no matter how expensive it is..
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yan7181
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September 25, 2014, 01:09:57 PM |
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just wait out and see if bitmain will reduce the price
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September 25, 2014, 01:10:34 PM |
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Greed is a BAD thinking in any religion in the world, buddy... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So you CAN fault anybody...and any business for been GREEDY...OK... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ZiG EDIT...: $1450... I am NOT buying this S4..."no way, Jose"... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I will go with SP-Tech SP20 for $1190 ...1.8TH...Later... Do not forget SP20´=$1190 + $160 EU ($119 US) = $1350 + PSU (1100W) + 20 days laterIs it really cheaper. Its called price fixing… Bitmain didn't use to be like that.
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September 25, 2014, 01:12:56 PM |
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Greed is a BAD thinking in any religion in the world, buddy... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So you CAN fault anybody...and any business for been GREEDY...OK... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ZiG EDIT...: $1450... I am NOT buying this S4..."no way, Jose"... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I will go with SP-Tech SP20 for $1190 ...1.8TH...Later... Do not forget SP20´=$1190 + $160 EU ($119 US) = $1350 + PSU (1100W) + 20 days laterIs it really cheaper. Its called price fixing… Bitmain didn't use to be like that. yeah... dont be fooled my thi " PRICE FIXING " calculate first before buying this..
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September 25, 2014, 01:13:35 PM |
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Specifications: * Chip Operating Voltage: 0.72V * Chip Quantity per unit: 160 * Hash Rate: 2,000GH/s guaranteed * Power Efficiency: 0.69Watt/GH/s at the wall * Over clocking: About 10%, but not guaranteed * 3U Rack 432mm*442mm*133mm * PSU inside: 1400W, 80PLUS gold. Power line not included. You may look for one line with no less than 16A in your local market * Temperature: 40-50 degree Celsius tested in the mining farm * Fan Speed: 3900RPM * Stable but a little bit noisy * Ethernet connection, Stand alone * Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE They may just leave pricing as it is until they are done mining with them as this is obviously what they are doing... TBH I still think batch 1 will sell out within hours as some people will still buy no matter what they price these at.
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September 25, 2014, 01:13:39 PM |
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One aspect that I like is the $200 coupon for existing S2 owners, with the intention to still have an upgrade in future (S6 kit?).
Although, this price should be the base price for everyone to be honest. Then this would be worth a gamble to some, rather than an instant 'no thanks' at the current prices.
BITMAIN - Please rethink the additional postage charge at the very least!
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September 25, 2014, 01:18:31 PM |
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To all customers that ordered AntMiner S2s: We analysed the business case for S2 upgrade kits for end users and determined that it would not be worthwhile for either party. ............ Coupons will be issued to express our sincere thank you for supporting Bitmain over the year. Each coupon has a value of $200 and will be issued for each S2 unit purchased. These coupons are only applicable for the purchase of S4s and only one coupon can be used per S4. ...........
Where are my Coupons?
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September 25, 2014, 01:18:53 PM |
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I checked my account there are no coupons in there, should be 3. I wouldn't buy S4 now but maybe I could sell them cheap to someone who still wants to mine for fun. You can pm me if you want 3 S4 coupons if bitmain adds them to my account.
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September 25, 2014, 01:20:06 PM |
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To all customers that ordered AntMiner S2s: We analysed the business case for S2 upgrade kits for end users and determined that it would not be worthwhile for either party. ............ Coupons will be issued to express our sincere thank you for supporting Bitmain over the year. Each coupon has a value of $200 and will be issued for each S2 unit purchased. These coupons are only applicable for the purchase of S4s and only one coupon can be used per S4. ...........
Where are my Coupons?Not showing in my account either... I guess they will show up when s4 is available to order.
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September 25, 2014, 01:27:08 PM |
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well look on the brighter side of things.. these s-4's will make your s-3's more valuable . watts are mentioned at .69 at the wall so this unit pulls 1380 watts I pulled images from bitmaintech website. that is a server psu. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmaintech.com%2Fbm_tech_admin_at_123%2Fuserfiles%2Fimage%2Fs4-3-s%281%29.jpg&t=665&c=collduXaxgO_OQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmaintech.com%2Fbm_tech_admin_at_123%2Fuserfiles%2Fimage%2Fs4-6-s%281%29.jpg&t=665&c=MjlLL-mf5-sivw)
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September 25, 2014, 01:27:27 PM |
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this price is insane, what happened to bitmain, he used to always price the miners on the borderline ROI so if you are lucky you can make a tiny profit. But now it's not even in the same universe to ROI.
Easy pass, you must be complete clueless to buy this at the listed price.
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September 25, 2014, 01:29:00 PM |
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Specifications: * Chip Operating Voltage: 0.72V * Chip Quantity per unit: 160 * Hash Rate: 2,000GH/s guaranteed * Power Efficiency: 0.69Watt/GH/s at the wall * Over clocking: About 10%, but not guaranteed * 3U Rack 432mm*442mm*133mm * PSU inside: 1400W, 80PLUS gold. Power line not included. You may look for one line with no less than 16A in your local market * Temperature: 40-50 degree Celsius tested in the mining farm * Fan Speed: 3900RPM * Stable but a little bit noisy * Ethernet connection, Stand alone * Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE They may just leave pricing as it is until they are done mining with them as this is obviously what they are doing... TBH I still think batch 1 will sell out within hours as some people will still buy no matter what they price these at. It will they know it i won't be buying one i have the cash for it to no coins but cash in the bank . at that price and the things you all say about the stats make it less appealing to buy but its end game so they will buy it because of that a lone and Bitmains knows it.
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September 25, 2014, 01:31:09 PM |
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well look on the brighter side of things.. these s-4's will make your s-3's more valuable . watts are mentioned at .69 at the wall so this unit pulls 1380 watts I pulled images from bitmaintech website. that is a server psu. AntMiner S4 2TH/s for sales shipping before September 29thMINER SHOW:![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrXyPFBT.jpg&t=665&c=3VjsVHn4IUVyEQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLpWdEwn.jpg&t=665&c=WvuVNRYAzeIJXg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUd16HW5.jpg&t=665&c=ULAD7AoZxqiHBA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyaplvPn.jpg&t=665&c=hxXZ4_MCEqIJDw)
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September 25, 2014, 01:33:29 PM |
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4 s-3s do close to 2th 1.8 - 2.0 they would use about 1480 watts for about 1.9th the s-4 uses about 1380 watts for about 2.0th Specifications: * Chip Operating Voltage: 0.72V * Chip Quantity per unit: 160 * Hash Rate: 2,000GH/s guaranteed * Power Efficiency: 0.69Watt/GH/s at the wall* Over clocking: About 10%, but not guaranteed * 3U Rack 432mm*442mm*133mm * PSU inside: 1400W, 80PLUS gold. Power line not included. You may look for one line with no less than 16A in your local market * Temperature: 40-50 degree Celsius tested in the mining farm * Fan Speed: 3900RPM * Stable but a little bit noisy * Ethernet connection, Stand alone * Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE well look on the brighter side of things.. these s-4's will make your s-3's more valuable . watts are mentioned at .69 at the wall so this unit pulls 1380 watts I pulled images from bitmaintech website. that is a server psu. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmaintech.com%2Fbm_tech_admin_at_123%2Fuserfiles%2Fimage%2Fs4-3-s%281%29.jpg&t=665&c=collduXaxgO_OQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmaintech.com%2Fbm_tech_admin_at_123%2Fuserfiles%2Fimage%2Fs4-6-s%281%29.jpg&t=665&c=MjlLL-mf5-sivw)
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September 25, 2014, 01:33:52 PM |
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NO shipping/shipping pricing NO power cable BAD pricing ! Customized PSU if broken, DOA, ETC = more downtime & wait for a replacement & pay MORE !
DON'T BUY even with coupons !
assuming shipping remains the same (most likely more) USD 200 + USD 1450 (S4) + USD 10 (power cable) = USD 1660 for 1 unit of S4 = TOO EXPENSIVE ! People listen up DON'T BUY so the GREED can be stopped ! or you can happily continue to flush your $ or BTC down the toilet bowl.
i truly agree with you
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September 25, 2014, 01:35:47 PM |
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NO shipping/shipping pricing NO power cable BAD pricing ! Customized PSU if broken, DOA, ETC = more downtime & wait for a replacement & pay MORE !
DON'T BUY even with coupons !
assuming shipping remains the same (most likely more) USD 200 + USD 1450 (S4) + USD 10 (power cable) = USD 1660 for 1 unit of S4 = TOO EXPENSIVE ! People listen up DON'T BUY so the GREED can be stopped ! or you can happily continue to flush your $ or BTC down the toilet bowl.
i truly agree with you the watts are 1380 at the wall ! not too good !
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September 25, 2014, 01:41:55 PM |
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NO shipping/shipping pricing NO power cable BAD pricing ! Customized PSU if broken, DOA, ETC = more downtime & wait for a replacement & pay MORE !
DON'T BUY even with coupons !
assuming shipping remains the same (most likely more) USD 200 + USD 1450 (S4) + USD 10 (power cable) = USD 1660 for 1 unit of S4 = TOO EXPENSIVE ! People listen up DON'T BUY so the GREED can be stopped ! or you can happily continue to flush your $ or BTC down the toilet bowl.
i truly agree with you the watts are 1380 at the wall ! not too good ! it is not as power efficient also and noisy. todays asics has to be 0.50 w/ghs or lower.
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September 25, 2014, 01:49:42 PM |
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I think its crazy for 2 TH paying that amount lol. Better buying 4 S3 and OC ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 25, 2014, 01:52:53 PM |
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Seriously, people need to stop buying expensive machine.. look at other manufacturer they still sell no matter how expensive it is..
I am now i really thought they meant what they said in there about so far up to now they seem to. but from what other says it's not that cutting edge and nothing stands out about it . it's mostly geared to the very rich or one willing to shell out that cash . i may just look at a spondoolies i was hoping the S4 be would be lower then the spo and a lot more efferent . I may even buy one of this now and peace it to gather sense I like building stuff , http://www.112bit.com/product/asicminer-tube-800-ghs-sha256-bitcoin-miner/
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