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[clgrissom3]

Block by bobsyouruncle!

This is our 1st of BLOCK AUGUST!

[firetreeactual]

My bitcoinds are a little more aggressive at banning connections
I blacklist IP addresses automatically in ipsets ... lots
So I'd only be guessing, but yep it does sound like core banning nodes sending out invalid blocks, which is, of course, reasonable.

Way cool...I figured the same. Methinks it maketh sense... 

[kano]

.. and since there are no doubt more new users around, and some who may look at a 441.410% block and wonder why ...

The usual CDF table I post every so often:

Code:

 0.39346934028737   50.000%  1 in 1.6
 0.63212055882856  100.000%  1 in 2.7
 0.77686983985157  150.000%  1 in 4.5
 0.86466471676339  200.000%  1 in 7.4
 0.95021293163214  300.000%  1 in 20.1
 0.98168436111127  400.000%  1 in 54.6
 0.98789455587645  441.410%  1 in 82.6
 0.99326205300091  500.000%  1 in 148.4
 0.99752124782333  600.000%  1 in 403.4
 0.99872735771441  666.666%  1 in 785.8
 0.99908811803445  700.000%  1 in 1096.6
 0.99966453737210  800.000%  1 in 2981.0
 0.99987659019591  900.000%  1 in 8103.1

So that shows the expected block luck statistics, translated as follows ...

ALL pools expect, on average, after having found LOTS of blocks, to average about 1 in 82.6 blocks to be 441.410% or more.

... and picking another random line from the above:
ALL pools expect, on average, after having found LOTS of blocks, to average about 1 in 7.4 blocks to be 200% or more.

... and using very inaccurate rounding ... it's roughly 2/3 of blocks are expected to be under 100% and roughly 1/3 of blocks are expected to be over 100%

[NomadGroup]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

[stormwind]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

[kano]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

Your coins in your own wallet before the fork, exist, afterwards, on both sides of the fork.

[NomadGroup]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

If you had a BTC coin before the split in a wallet with private keys then you should get 1 coin of BCH for every Coin of BTC that you've had.  Although there is still a lot of confusion on how to split them, well at least to me and at least until I get the Nano S wallet in like 5 days. . Where from what I've read it shouldn't be difficult.  Will see.

And have you seen the price go up to over $600 already for the Other coin?  Was like $250 this morning I believe!

[overcon]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

If you had a BTC coin before the split in a wallet with private keys then you should get 1 coin of BCH for every Coin of BTC that you've had.  Although there is still a lot of confusion on how to split them, well at least to me and at least until I get the Nano S wallet in like 5 days. . Where from what I've read it shouldn't be difficult.  Will see.

And have you seen the price go up to over $600 already for the Other coin?  Was like $250 this morning I believe!

So how does that work? All my BTC is in my Core Wallet. I thought only Exchanges gave both coins in a split to cover customer losses. I can't imagine a wallet would care nor grant you an equal amount of an alt coin within itself or am I reading something totally wrong here?

[Moria843]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

If you had a BTC coin before the split in a wallet with private keys then you should get 1 coin of BCH for every Coin of BTC that you've had.  Although there is still a lot of confusion on how to split them, well at least to me and at least until I get the Nano S wallet in like 5 days. . Where from what I've read it shouldn't be difficult.  Will see.

And have you seen the price go up to over $600 already for the Other coin?  Was like $250 this morning I believe!

So how does that work? All my BTC is in my Core Wallet. I thought only Exchanges gave both coins in a split to cover customer losses. I can't imagine a wallet would care nor grant you an equal amount of an alt coin within itself or am I reading something totally wrong here?

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0

[iain68]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

If you had a BTC coin before the split in a wallet with private keys then you should get 1 coin of BCH for every Coin of BTC that you've had.  Although there is still a lot of confusion on how to split them, well at least to me and at least until I get the Nano S wallet in like 5 days. . Where from what I've read it shouldn't be difficult.  Will see.

And have you seen the price go up to over $600 already for the Other coin?  Was like $250 this morning I believe!

So how does that work? All my BTC is in my Core Wallet. I thought only Exchanges gave both coins in a split to cover customer losses. I can't imagine a wallet would care nor grant you an equal amount of an alt coin within itself or am I reading something totally wrong here?

I moved all BTC into a BTC.com wallet.  They've implemented a tool to split out your BCC for you.  I know there are other ways to do it with your hard wallet backup seed, but this way was pretty easy and painless.  You just need a BCC wallet set up before splitting.  I sent the new BCC directly to a HitBTC exchange account as they already accept BCC transactions.  I'm sure many more will accept BCC in the near future though.

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On another note, new batch of 14TH S9's currently up on Bitmain. 

[cedarlug]

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0

Another way to look at this is that Kano deserves kudos for manually pushing out those last payments to our core wallets.  Had they waited for the usual block confirmation cycle, you'd be getting them post-fork and you'd only have them on your BTC chain.

Thanks Kano!

[Biffa]

I moved all BTC into a BTC.com wallet.  They've implemented a tool to split out your BCC for you.  I know there are other ways to do it with your hard wallet backup seed, but this way was pretty easy and painless.  You just need a BCC wallet set up before splitting.  I sent the new BCC directly to a HitBTC exchange account as they already accept BCC transactions.  I'm sure many more will accept BCC in the near future though.

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On another note, new batch of 14TH S9's currently up on Bitmain.  

I assume you moved your BTC to the online BTC.com wallet before the network split though right?

[NomadGroup]

Guys I have an urgent question!  I have some BTC in my old Ledger wallet which didn't make 2 different accounts for BTC and BCC yet but I need to sell BTC right now but at the same time don't want to loose the BCC.  Is there an exchange where I could transfer the my BTC and It would split the coin in 2?  Or is it even possible?

Thanks!

You can't spent a coin twice! It's one or the other. I'm right or?

If you had a BTC coin before the split in a wallet with private keys then you should get 1 coin of BCH for every Coin of BTC that you've had.  Although there is still a lot of confusion on how to split them, well at least to me and at least until I get the Nano S wallet in like 5 days. . Where from what I've read it shouldn't be difficult.  Will see.

And have you seen the price go up to over $600 already for the Other coin?  Was like $250 this morning I believe!

So how does that work? All my BTC is in my Core Wallet. I thought only Exchanges gave both coins in a split to cover customer losses. I can't imagine a wallet would care nor grant you an equal amount of an alt coin within itself or am I reading something totally wrong here?

Actually no, all of the exchanges that I have an account with send me an email before the split, specifically saying that they won't support BCH so you better pull your BTC out to a wallet that will support it like Ledger Nano S because if you don't you won't get your BTC split with them and won't get the second coin.  Although as far as I know some exchanges told their customers that they'll give them some BCH but there's no guarantees unless you had the private keys of your wallet.

[TheOneJester]

Kano - It has been a while since I've checked here. I have been looking back in the code for the android app and noticed that the endpoint for seeing the JSON data is formatted as JSON data but the the content type is returning as text/html.
I know changing it to "application/json" may break existing apps including my own, but since I'm back and mining on the pool again and noticed this, I thought I would let you know.  

I plan on making an update for the android app to handle both in the case that this situation is updated, otherwise it will continue to function the same. I figure it is time to give it a face lift and more options, time permitting of course.

The following:
 Content-Type:text/html; charset=UTF-8
Should read:
 Content-Type:application/json; charset=UTF-8

Code:

Request URL:https://kano.is/index.php?k=api&username=[]&api=[]&json=y
Request Method:GET
Status Code:200 OK
...
Response Headers
view source
Cache-Control:no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
Connection:Keep-Alive
Content-Encoding:gzip
Content-Length:222
Content-Type:text/html; charset=UTF-8
Date:Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:59:13 GMT
Expires:Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
...

[kano]

Well ... that also depends on if you ask for json on the end there

However, as you indirectly implied, I've no idea what uses the API and since it's nothing really of significance, I'd prefer not to risk breaking it, if the text settings does matter for anything.

Also, that's KanoPool

[kano]

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0

Another way to look at this is that Kano deserves kudos for manually pushing out those last payments to our core wallets.  Had they waited for the usual block confirmation cycle, you'd be getting them post-fork and you'd only have them on your BTC chain.

Thanks Kano!

Yeah that $1 per payout really speeds things up (at the moment) ... now if I could just speed up the block finding that easily

[iain68]

I moved all BTC into a BTC.com wallet.  They've implemented a tool to split out your BCC for you.  I know there are other ways to do it with your hard wallet backup seed, but this way was pretty easy and painless.  You just need a BCC wallet set up before splitting.  I sent the new BCC directly to a HitBTC exchange account as they already accept BCC transactions.  I'm sure many more will accept BCC in the near future though.

---------------------------

On another note, new batch of 14TH S9's currently up on Bitmain.  

I assume you moved your BTC to the online BTC.com wallet before the network split though right?

No, they were in my hard wallet.  Any bitcoin created before the fork should be able to split into BCC once.  It does not matter when or where.  Someone could send you BTC next year, but if the block was mined before yesterday it can split of not already done so.   That's my understanding at least.

[smutboy420]

Ah cool I see the payment for the last block we hit 478648 is already showing and confirmed in my wallet.

[philipma1957]

block!!

478837   moecarrimNEW   12.63505754   2017‑08‑03 09:37:30   

low fees are the new normal I guess


August luck is brutal so far

Monthly Statistics
UTC----- Month------...Pool Avg--------Blocks-----Expected......Mean Diff%....MeanTx%.....Luck%.......PPS%
2017 ----Aug…..........78.39PHs..............2........6.72............336.16%.......101.75%......29.75%.....30.00%

[kano]

Well anyone watching the web page would have seen that was another block with lotsa zeros and question marks
I manually confirmed it after checking.
Was all OK on every bitcoind I run ... 19 of them all 0.14.2+bip91+stuff
Just ckpool decided it was yet again 'inconclusive' ...

I've been working on splitting the gits so I can have a single (private) kanodb without the ckpool crud, and also so I can apply the fixes I've worked out for the deadlock in ckpool, so I can move it forward from last august (with other changes I've made) and not have to screw up the db coz there's a commit in there to force me to not merge the old public git (only one commit, all it does is remove ckdb pool specific code I use ... no idea why he'd do that ... ... ...)
I'll add something to report what's actually wrong with this 'inconclusive' block message, so I can get it to automatically confirm them if possible.

Anyway, that's almost done.
This is the last bit related to the segwit changes that have been on going.

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Yeah these block sizes and txfees lately have been meh ... since before bip91 ...
Ours was a 90 second network block and was also confirmed only 4 seconds later.