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[ztianf]

You need to mine kano for at least 3-4 days before your shares are full paid I found out. My freshly gained experience is kano pays more than slush.

[kano]

I take it your post is simply trying to advertise another pool who charges a lot more fees?
No pool is paying all their miners 116% PPS

Actually, I pretty much hate Bitmain at this point, I sent them $1000+ a month ago for an S9 and they still haven't even confirmed my payment.  I ranted about it a while in another thread.  Would a Bitmain shill start a thread called 'Bitmain takes your money, does not send product, DO NOT TRUST BITMAIN'?

But after trying first Slush, then Kano, and now Antpool... regrettably, Antpool is paying the most by a pretty wide margin.   Yes some days luck based pools pay better but in my experience on Slushpool the bad days outweigh the good ones.  PPS is super steady and very predictable.

Anyways, I'm not trying to be negative about your pool on your pool's thread.  I'm just trying to figure out when / if I'm going to get paid since it sounds like you don't pay out for amounts under 10k per block and from the looks of it that would be every block I mine with your pool.  Is there a 'request dust payment' button on Kano.is somewhere?  I looked but couldn't find anything like that.

I have some suggestions for your site if you'd like to hear them.

Well your only question you asked is

Hello, I was wondering if I will get paid for the mining I did with Kano?
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Which is a pointless question since I'm sure the people with 10PH+ on the pool would be posting rather angry posts if the answer was anything other than the expected answer of "Yes" ...

If instead your question was "I've been mining dust. When will I get the dust, coz the website says"

Dust payments below 0.00010000 BTC are not sent out yet.

then the answer is some time in the future - not yet determined accurately.
Or as per my response many times in the past "some time in a galaxy far far away"

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You also seem to be able to quote luck figures as some idea about how much to expect at another pool, where those luck figures are not at all what to expect at that pool.

As for these statements you made:

Antpool is paying the most by a pretty wide margin.

and

Yes some days luck based pools pay better but in my experience on 'scampool' the bad days outweigh the good ones.

... there's a whole page of stats on the Blocks page here that says that is not the case at all here.

... and yes that's a scampool coz he ripped off his miners big time in Dec-2015 and yet has the gall to say on his web site
"Long history of stable and accurate payouts" ... I guess back to Jan-2016 can be considered a long history

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And yes I deleted 2 of your posts - I'm not interested in advertising antpoo
... and trying to apply a gambling addiction to your lack of understanding of PPLNS is pointless - learn about PPLNS - just trashing it with incorrect statements is pointless.

[kano]

I'm not advertising for anyone, just stating the facts.  Your fees: 0.9% - Other unnamed pool's fees for PPLNS: 0%, but you still act like you have lower fees.  You don't.  

Dishonesty is not how to build your brand.  I'm sure my little 3-4 Th/s is trivial... it is.  But it's just a start to hold me over while other, significantly larger investors, get in position with hardware.  We could have added a few hundred Th/s, maybe a few Ph/s, but seriously... would you do business with someone who is responding to questions the way you are now?  Be honest.

"Will I get paid?  When?" -> "DUH!  At some point in the future." -> "Cya."

I've started a thread on this in Scams.

LOL have fun with that

antpoo 0% PPLNS fee is a lie and you fell for it like so many sheeple

They keep the transaction fees which for each of the last 7 months (which are shown on the blocks page)  are:
July 10.04%
June 22.31%
May 20.05%
April 11.07%
March 13.14%
February 9.46%
January 5.58%

Wow don't you love those 0% fee pools lol average for 7 months is: 11.57% fees on that supposed 0% fee pool

Yes I'm not concerned if you don't mine here.

Don't forget to start a scam thread for antpoo lying about their fees

[kano]

Yeah, it looks like they do (usually) keep the transaction fees, but they're not lying about it

"PPLNS: (Transaction fees not paid out to miners for maintaining cost and the bonus for our engineers)"

And they do actually pay out the transaction fees for one of their payout methods, PPS+, apparently.   Whatever, with the extra on top of the PPS they're giving me now it's still over the average, and it's still paying more than I made with luck-based on slush.  Daily payouts with no transaction fees and a fairly usable web page make it worth it, to me.  Besides, the 'dust' from mining with Kano is 100% of what my miner can produce.  If you aren't paying that out, that means your fees are, for me, 100%.  No thanks.

I'd rather deal with someone other than Bitmain, but more profitable than Slush, so I thought I'd try your pool out.   Guess I'll keep looking.  Have a nice day.

Yeah that "maintaining cost and the bonus for our engineers" is literally of the order of $1million a month
Certainly wouldn't want to call them out on that scam ... they are such an upright worthy of praise company ... I hear you had fun trying to get a miner from them ...

Yep dust mining here is indeed an unknown when you'll get paid out and until then, yep you could call it a 100% fee ... other than I don't want to keep the BTC
I've no interest in absconding with someone else's money.
Oh well, you'll get it one day, then maybe by then it will be worth more than a few cents

Heh I've made certain comments about this a few times in the past like below.
I wonder if anyone took notice back then ... they could have made almost 500% profit in 10 months if they did
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg16515608#msg16515608
Back then BTC was around $615 now it's over $3000

[kano]

Meanwhile, back on track ...
That last payout for 479080 ... well that $1 worked well again
Shortly after I sent out the 479080 payout, it was confirmed!

[philipma1957]

Dust is another story
I have a bit of dust here and I think kano.is should alter dust policy
if you come here with 50 th  and you hit blocks while ramping up you get burnt.  as the first fast blocks would be dust. So I agree about dust.

but you are far off on the issue of 2 day  test results.

I'm not advertising for anyone, just stating the facts.  Your fees: 0.9% - Other unnamed pool's fees for PPLNS: 0%, but you still act like you have lower fees.  You don't.  

Dishonesty is not how to build your brand.  I'm sure my little 3-4 Th/s is trivial... it is.  But it's just a start to hold me over while other, significantly larger investors, get in position with hardware.  We could have added a few hundred Th/s, maybe a few Ph/s, but seriously... would you do business with someone who is responding to questions the way you are now?  Be honest.

"Will I get paid?  When?" -> "DUH!  At some point in the future." -> "Cya."

I've started a thread on this in Scams.

you simply don't understand what you are saying.

you can tell kano.is payouts  in a 1 day test.

or a 2 day test
or a 3 day test
or a 4 day test.
even a 30 day test is too short.

arguing based on a 2 day test makes you look___________ (i will let you fill ing the word)

[kano]

Yep dust mining here is indeed an unknown when you'll get paid out and until then, yep you could call it a 100% fee ... other than I don't want to keep the BTC
I've no interest in absconding with someone else's money.

I don't know why not, it's a lot of money.  919 users, let's say each one has one dust amount of 5000 satoshi a day... that's about $150 a day at current prices.

$54k a year is a lot of 'dust'.

Maybe you formed this policy back in 2014 when 10000 satoshi was basically a meaningless amount.  I get that.  But now it's not.  

lulz $150 a day ... not anything like that ... ~$44 a day for 3 years (though of course it goes up and down ... now we only get ~2 blocks a day so on the lower end)
Total balance since Sep-2014 is something like 16BTC - including miners who had no payout addresses and got more than dust.
$48k at current prices in almost 3 years.

Check all 3:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg19327650#msg19327650
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg18995691#msg18995691
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg18995880#msg18995880

[kano]

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That's better than 90% of the the stats you listed.
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You keep quoting a random short term 116% PPS and making some bullshit implication it isn't random luck short term.

You've also made false claims about antpoo payouts.

You clearly are shilling for Bitmain.

I'll simply delete your posts.

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I don't agree that hoping for that magical 1 in 10 chance is a good idea.
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Again bullshit.

Last 7 months have averaged 124% reward.

[mdude77]

Just thought I'd chime in here.

There aren't a lot of pools out there that have been around for a long time and are run by a trustworthy operator.

Kano's pool is one that gets my vote.  And when I get back into mining, it'll also get my hashrate.

Antpool does not.

M

[kano]

Just thought I'd chime in here.

There aren't a lot of pools out there that have been around for a long time and are run by a trustworthy operator.

Kano's pool is one that gets my vote.  And when I get back into mining, it'll also get my hashrate.

Antpool is not.

M

Noted.  Thanks.  I have to wonder though, if you had anything negative to say about Kano's pool, would your post still be here?  My experience says 'no'.  So that makes it hard to properly evaluate statements like this.

Lulz your posts are still here ... I deleted the originals to annoy you, since you are trying to annoy me, as is clear by the ones still here ... and some that no one quoted.

[mdude77]

I wasn't trying to annoy you (although now might be a different story), I was trying to figure out when / if I would get paid with your pool using an under powered miner.

It's easy to find out.  Try it for a week!  If it's that under powered, you're talking what, a couple bucks?  Seriously..

M

[kano]

It's easy to find out.  Try it for a week!  If it's that under powered, you're talking what, a couple bucks?  Seriously..

M

I was giving that serious consideration because of how much I dislike Bitmain, but before I threw the income away and shouldered another week of power costs, I wanted to get some idea of when / if I would get paid.  $30 lost to power + $30 lost income = more than I want to write off until Bitmain sends me a miner that doesn't suck.  

Do you want to fund that experiment?  begging  

If someone sends me 0.01 BTC, I'll give it a shot.

Lulz your just playing miners - and now not even for fun
Your first post was a joke, proof that you didn't bother to even read the 2 payouts pages (your payouts and help) and ended with jab at the pool made from ignorance.
I've no idea why you are continuing this farce other than maybe to get people to give you money.
Be gone.
No more posts, I'll just delete them.

[ztianf]

I was giving that serious consideration because of how much I dislike Bitmain, but before I threw the income away and shouldered another week of power costs, I wanted to get some idea of when / if I would get paid.  $30 lost to power + $30 lost income = more than I want to write off until Bitmain sends me a miner that doesn't suck. 

$30 lost income because of startup dust? $ in power to make $30 in is stupid anyways.
U get 20% first pay on those shares, next pay 20 more and so on 5 times. You are out of dust in a day or two if you have some patience.
Obviously you don't.

[overcon]

I wonder if BTC will drop down below 3000 again so I can buy back in. Sold at 3060, thought this might be a typical spike and drop, of course it wasn't ... Sigh. Now I got to wait holding USDT, I hate USDT

[overcon]

I've no idea why you are continuing this farce other than maybe to get people to give you money.

Well, yeah, that's why I posted in the first place.  I'd like you to give me the money you said you would when I signed up.  Why wouldn't I?  Considering you have $48k of other peoples money tucked away somewhere, some of which is mine, seems reasonable to me to ask for it up front until I can see tangible results.

I want my Two Dollars!

http://maladomini.com/images/two.swf

[greyworld]

I want my Two Dollars!

Ha!  I was actually going to mention that earlier but I got distracted by something shiny.  Yes, I am that guy.

BTW: Thanks for keeping 911 going.  EMT-B here.

[overcon]

It's a classic, what can I say

[smutboy420]

It would seem one would have to do a lot of small scale mining for a long time to rack up and entire $2 in dust payments from a few days I was off line and not mining.

All of my 15 dust payments combined at todays prices total out to being less than 12 cents US when added up.  So even if Kanosan were to get right on it and manualy work on paying out my whopping 12 cents.  I'm sure its still too small of an amount to even be able to get in my wallet inless it was added in to one other bigger payment.


If you really want to see what the full amount you can make with your hashrate per block you are going to have to point your miners to kano and leave them pointed for at least on full n range. Which right now is about 66 hours. Till you are going to be up to your full speed over the 66 hr n range.


Im mined at both slutpool and antpoo.  and I'm averageing a lot more btc per month then I would of gotten at either pool with the same hash rate.  Esp when going over a more long term average then just a few days..  Tho this month our luck happens to be pretty crappy, its still working out that all the other good months are still out weighing the slow start that we have had for August.  

[firetreeactual]

Ditto. From an "OG" miner. 

[philipma1957]

kano runs a good pool

but dust is now 16 coins that is 3200 x 16 = 51,200

I have nation he should simply either pay or say it is a donation

It has now got to a point that 51,200 usd  makes it look bad.

This would be the same as him saying I am not paying the next block  as blocks are about  12.8 to 16.0 coins.

For myself I will continue to mine here and attack people that think a one or 2 day test is fair way to evaluate a pool.

But I do support people that think they should get the dust.

or at the very minimum kano should say dust is mine all mine.  and dust is any payout for a block under 0.0001 which is 30 cents.

I like kano's pool  but as we are all only human I think he could improve it.