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It's possible with Awesomeminer to put backup ? Because i manage pool with it not directly by web interface. EDIt: Just add the pool on the pool page for each miner You confirm is useful when the first is offline. how can i check if i lost something because first was offline ? there is a stat which mean that ? EDIT2: I have some doubt if the profit is very good if a minimum luck is not here.... For example, with my hashrate 27.3TH/s, i earn an average of 0.0046 by block found. (it's the stable earning after 3 days of running) If i estimate with expected block for september, i found : 31 * 0.0046 = 0.1426 On nicehash, for the same Hashrate, i have 0.2597 for the month, minus 4% = 0.2493. To have the same earning on Kano, it need 54 blocks found for the month. Everything is calculated in BTC, and the BTC/USD exchange will not affect that. My simulation is wrong ? How do you know we will not get 5 blocks today, 5 tomorrow, 4 the next day, none the next day, 2 the next day, 6 the next day? You can guess all you want, but historically, the pool usually meets its historical numbers. But you can take a sure thing over a better thing if you like. No one forces you to mine at a pool, remember that. I think maybe, if you had mined here for 8 months and you found it was lower than what you would get at another pool, then maybe you'd have a reason to leave? But without putting in the time, you can crunch numbers all you want to justify your actions, still doesn't make them correct
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September 18, 2017, 05:34:51 PM |
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I did same calcul with old months, and it's same, where it's finish. So maybe i forgot one thing in my simulation...
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overcon
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September 18, 2017, 05:49:55 PM |
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I did same calcul with old months, and it's same, where it's finish. So maybe i forgot one thing in my simulation...
Maybe, who knows. I'm by far an expert. But I do well here and that works for me.
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philipma1957
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September 18, 2017, 05:53:19 PM |
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Hello guys, I know this is not the best place to post this problem, but as I know you are the best and smartest guys over here please help me with this if you are able: I've been mining in kano since six months I think and from yesterday I realized my TH/S dropped a lot and I went to check my miners and I found this: I have an Antminer S9 and it got in the chain #8 GH/S(RT) = 0.00000 I've seen in the forum some problems about that and says it is a board problem. My antminer is out of warranty, and I am not able to send back to bitmain to get a repair ticket because it is almost impossible to send it from my country. So please help me guys Sad I'm really worry about that Sad Here is a picture of what I'm telling you: You need to post a screenshot of the full page for seeing all chips. but it looks like you have a problem with 1 hashing board; should send to bitmain for repair or purchase a hashing board and replace it at your own risk. I also highly recommend to have a 2nd and 3rd mining address for backup (not just the 1st one). It's possible with Awesomeminer to put backup ? Because i manage pool with it not directly by web interface. EDIt: Just add the pool on the pool page for each miner You confirm is useful when the first is offline. how can i check if i lost something because first was offline ? there is a stat which mean that ? EDIT2: I have some doubt if the profit is very good if a minimum luck is not here.... For example, with my hashrate 27.3TH/s, i earn an average of 0.0046 by block found. (it's the stable earning after 3 days of running) If i estimate with expected block for september, i found : 31 * 0.0046 = 0.1426 On nicehash, for the same Hashrate, i have 0.2597 for the month, minus 4% = 0.2493. To have the same earning on Kano, it need 54 blocks found for the month. Everything is calculated in BTC, and the BTC/USD exchange will not affect that. My simulation is wrong ? so wrong it will take me a few hours to explain why it is wrong Block Statistics Description Time Mean Diff% MeanTx% CDF[Erl] Luck% ?PPPS% Last 5 Blocks 4.4days 163.90% 108.40% 0.9110 61.01% 65.54% Last 10 Blocks 6.5days 119.82% 107.57% 0.7560 83.46% 88.97% based on this luck you would be correct. Last 25 Blocks 12.6days 89.55% 110.10% 0.3176 111.66% 121.84% Last 50 Blocks 27.2days 96.91% 116.61% 0.4312 103.19% 119.24% based on this luck you would be wrong Last 100 Blocks 8.1wks 103.53% 113.04% 0.6489 96.59% 108.20% Last 250 Blocks 17.7wks 100.20% 116.95% 0.5209 99.80% 115.67% Last 500 Blocks 42.2wks 99.77% 113.41% 0.4856 100.23% 112.65% Last 1000 Blocks 63.0wks 100.90% 108.50% 0.6162 99.10% 106.56% All - Last 2120 Blocks 156.4wks 97.09% 104.56% 0.0893 102.99% 106.73% Monthly Statistics UTC Month Pool Avg Blocks Expected Mean Diff% MeanTx% CDF[Erl] Luck% PPPS% 2017 September… 80.56PHs 33 30.52 92.50% 112.28% 0.3506 108.11% 120.29% you are wrong for this month 2017 August 81.45PHs 48 58.46 121.79% 115.84% 0.9278 82.11% 94.26% 2017 July 76.79PHs 62 60.52 97.61% 110.04% 0.4416 102.44% 111.71% ----------- you are wrong for this month 2017 June 74.80PHs 72 65.61 91.13% 122.31% 0.2308 109.73% 133.00% -------------- you are wrong for this month 2017 May 60.72PHs 71 68.06 95.86% 120.05% 0.3767 104.32% 124.10% -------------- you are wrong for this month 2017 April 34.94PHs 61 41.36 67.81% 111.07% 0.0025 147.47% 162.33% 2017 March 27.11PHs 33 37.83 114.64% 113.14% 0.8052 87.23% 97.81% 2017 February 21.21PHs 34 26.71 78.57% 109.46% 0.0978 127.28% 138.07%---- wrong 2017 January 22.65PHs 40 41.37 103.43% 105.58% 0.6053 96.68% 101.16% --- wrong 2016 December 28.63PHs 41 58.65 143.04% 105.24% 0.9936 69.91% 72.91% 2016 November 33.55PHs 70 76.09 108.69% 104.59% 0.7725 92.00% 95.36% 2016 October 32.43PHs 82 79.69 97.19% 104.01% 0.4128 102.90% 106.06% ---- wrong
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September 18, 2017, 09:07:44 PM |
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That new difficulty SUCKS peas!
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BITMIXER.IO Gone Baby, Gone.. ;-) Not any good sig campaigns out there that I want!
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September 18, 2017, 09:26:21 PM |
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I wish I could find my post from last year when I wondered aloud when diff would cross the 1 trillion mark, certainly happened sooner than expected.
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September 18, 2017, 11:07:19 PM |
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That new difficulty SUCKS peas! It does! Let's hope that the price will jump up to 5k pretty quick to make up for that 20% jump!
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September 18, 2017, 11:10:53 PM |
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That new difficulty SUCKS peas! It does! Let's hope that the price will jump up to 5k pretty quick to make up for that 20% jump! And/or the BTC network sees it as an over-correction and compensates.... What's the average Block time look like since the diff rise? Wonder what the control loop's PID values and constants are?
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September 18, 2017, 11:14:43 PM |
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That new difficulty SUCKS peas! It does! Let's hope that the price will jump up to 5k pretty quick to make up for that 20% jump! And/or the BTC network sees it as an over-correction and compensates.... What's the average Block time look like since the diff rise? Wonder what the control loop's PID values and constants are? There is huge drop in hash with a big shift to BCC viabtc has BTC at 6995 ph BCC at 2171 ph please note gray line as it is actual btc hash rate now
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September 18, 2017, 11:15:22 PM |
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Hello guys, I know this is not the best place to post this problem, but as I know you are the best and smartest guys over here please help me with this if you are able: I've been mining in kano since six months I think and from yesterday I realized my TH/S dropped a lot and I went to check my miners and I found this: I have an Antminer S9 and it got in the chain #8 GH/S(RT) = 0.00000 I've seen in the forum some problems about that and says it is a board problem. My antminer is out of warranty, and I am not able to send back to bitmain to get a repair ticket because it is almost impossible to send it from my country. So please guys, help me. I'm really sad about that Here is a picture of what I'm telling you: I guess I don't see the problem besides the pools are dead on 2 and 3 which you should add another of one of kano's nodes. As for the Proxy just uses the imagine link instead of the image like the URL we will have to click on the image but at least we can see it. And yea you can buy a board and replace it your self. It is really easy. If that is the issue.
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TheYankeesWin!
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September 18, 2017, 11:19:36 PM |
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That new difficulty SUCKS peas! It does! Let's hope that the price will jump up to 5k pretty quick to make up for that 20% jump! And/or the BTC network sees it as an over-correction and compensates.... What's the average Block time look like since the diff rise? Wonder what the control loop's PID values and constants are? There is huge drop in hash with a big shift to BCC viabtc has BTC at 6995 ph BCC at 2171 ph please note gray line as it is actual btc hash rate now wow 7000 ph is a big drop lets hope for it to stay at 7ph
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philipma1957
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September 18, 2017, 11:20:58 PM |
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our 1,103 diff is a 7,898 ph hash rate
we would drop to about 1000 diff if we stay at 7000ph. hash rate
All of this is due to the BTC vs BCC/BCH issue and of course the Chinese Gov flexing their muscle.
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September 19, 2017, 01:11:34 AM |
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Block by cobramining! This is our 1st of BLOCK TUESDAY! A nice 14+ block and a payout!
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September 19, 2017, 02:39:04 AM |
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And our diff is dropping as I type. the gray line is way down. due to pressure from BCC/BCH Get used to big swings until BCC/BCH fades away.
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September 19, 2017, 03:42:35 AM |
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The difficulty changed yesterday, the profit have decreased a lot since two week agos with some S9 People! Keep your sanity and watch your long term profits...If you constantly watch daily and weekly profits, you will go nuts! There is just too much variance in this venture for short term happiness. Right on! Mine on!. The flip side are things you should watch or do daily. 1) Your miners health, keep a miner stats page up and refresh it to confirm you are maintaining health of all miners. 2) The availability of miners and power supplies to buy. 3) Backup your bitcoin Core wallet daily.
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1 S9, 2 A741s, 1 A821, 3 A841s, and full bitcoin node About 80THash/sec
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September 19, 2017, 03:52:08 AM |
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Looks like someone overdid it on the difficulty increase. I see a 35 minute and counting block time. I am guessing automatic calculators are picking what coin to mine based on difficulty and bitcoin just set itself to lose a bit of hash rate. This could cause a sea saw effect when the diff drops , then rises, and drops and rises ...... Hang onto your seats for the roller coaster ride!
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1 S9, 2 A741s, 1 A821, 3 A841s, and full bitcoin node About 80THash/sec
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September 19, 2017, 03:57:45 AM |
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I see canaan is getting organized with an authorized reseller. I am guessing they are buying the pallets and then selling singles. Go to canaan's home page for the straight news and links. Not going to put links in here as too many folks put up links that are scams, better you go to canaan's website your self and follow the info there.
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1 S9, 2 A741s, 1 A821, 3 A841s, and full bitcoin node About 80THash/sec
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September 19, 2017, 04:19:48 AM Last edit: September 19, 2017, 04:37:49 AM by jungleb0y |
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I was watching the block get put together I guess on https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/ the lat one was like 56 minutes and then it released it or whatever it does and then you see each mining pool start to get the blocks average 5-6 blocks found for that hour of collecting transactions. Is that how it always worked or was it one block every 10 minutes? I guess either way it works out to a block every 10 minutes if they collect data for an hour and release 6 blocks huh. If that's how it works collecting and the releasing a group of blocks you could just shut everything off on the pool and then 10 minutes before the blocks come out open them up again and shut down after the blocks have been found? Kano just needs to make a script that can interface with the miners to remotely shut them off and start them I'm just talking like a man with a paper ass, I know think you can find a block in between that time but it looks like the majority of blocks lately have come in groups. Just sayin
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September 19, 2017, 06:05:48 AM |
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Block! by moecarrimNEW (13.9BTC)
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September 19, 2017, 06:37:21 AM Last edit: September 19, 2017, 07:01:01 AM by kano |
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Block finding is purely random - you don't build up to finding a block. It's random in exactly the same way as rolling an un-weighted dice is random (though the block hash is pseudo-random coz it's a mathematical calculation with enough complexity to consider it random) You double sha256-hash an 80 bytes value, check it's pseudo-random result and see if it's less than a value calculation of the network difficulty. If it is, then it's a block. So yep there is absolutely no history effect on finding blocks, and you can NEVER say when the next block will be found by any pool or even the whole network. The block length distribution is a poisson distribution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distributionMeaning you expect them to average at 100% difficulty, but the length between blocks can be 1 hash or infinite hashes (never) The CDF table also explains that - it's not just for the pool, it's for all of Bitcoin. 0.39346934028737 50.000% 1 in 1.6 0.63212055882856 100.000% 1 in 2.7 0.86466471676339 200.000% 1 in 7.4 0.95021293163214 300.000% 1 in 20.1 0.98168436111127 400.000% 1 in 54.6 0.99326205300091 500.000% 1 in 148.4 0.99752124782333 600.000% 1 in 403.4 0.99908811803445 700.000% 1 in 1096.6 0.99966453737210 800.000% 1 in 2981.0 0.99987659019591 900.000% 1 in 8103.1
So using that table also for all Bitcoin network blocks, and assuming blocks are expected to average 10 minutes in length, you can see that since 10 minutes would mean 144 blocks a day, then it would average, over time, a 50 minute block about every day - this comes from "500.000% 1 in 148.4" i.e. "500%" of 10 minutes = 50 minutes, and "1 in 148.4" is a little over a day's expected number of blocks: 144. (144 = 6 per hour times 24) The most important part to understand is that it's an expected average, nothing more. So when we say the network blocks should average once every 10 minutes, it doesn't mean they will be every 10 minutes. Some will be a few seconds, some 50 minutes, some half an hour, some 1 minute etc etc etc But the long term average of all those is expected to be 10 minutes. Lastly, most if not all Difficulty graphs are interpreted incorrectly by most people who view them. You cannot give an accurate estimate of the network hash rate from the graph. Yep, you can't. Why? Coz the time used to estimate/update the network difficulty is 2016 blocks, and even that is not very accurate. The network hash rate changes every minute, every hour, every day, but a day's worth of block data is far from accurate enough to estimate the network hash rate. As I implied, even ~14 days worth of data (2016 blocks) isn't very accurate, but it's necessary to be used to reduce the effect of a large hash rate drop.
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